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flameaholic 08-10-2012 11:31 AM

Flyers 'step up' offer for Bouwmeester
 
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According to the report, the Red Wings stepped up their interest in Bouwmeester after learning the Philadelphia Flyers could make an offer in the wake of losing rearguard Andrej Meszaros all of next season with a torn Achilles tendon.
http://www.calgaryherald.com/sports/...987/story.html

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The St. Louis Blues, who are seeking a sidekick for star-in-the-making Alex Pietrangelo, were linked to the smooth-skating defenceman earlier this summer.

Same goes for the Philadelphia Flyers, especially after the Nashville Predators matched a monster offer-sheet that restricted free-agent Shea Weber inked in the City of Brotherly Love.

In fact, the Predators, who couldn’t convince Ryan Suter to choose the Music City over his home state of Minnesota, have also been mentioned as a possible suitor for the 6-foot-4, 212-lb. Bouwmeester.

Several alleged ‘insiders’ are adding other teams to the equation.
http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Hockey/NHL.../20088051.html

Looks like the Flames are about to hit the mother load. :tvhappy:

Barney Gumble 08-10-2012 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by flameaholic (Post 53451335)
Looks like the Flames are about to hit the mother load. :tvhappy:

Unless the Flames get one or more D back, wouldn't Bouwmeester departure leave a huge hole on their blueline (regardless of your opinion of him - he does eat a ton of minutes)?

Laus723 08-10-2012 11:34 AM

Don't see how the Preds could take in that much salary on two players.

InfinityIggy 08-10-2012 11:35 AM

*Bouwmeester is garbage and will be move for 2nd + Random 3rd liner.*

Mike Farkas 08-10-2012 11:36 AM

Bouwmeester would not like it in Philadelphia...just not a personality match there I don't feel...

DBU 08-10-2012 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by InfinityIggy (Post 53451471)
*Bouwmeester is garbage and will be move for 2nd + Random 3rd liner.*

"Calgary can have some garbage prospects."

Seth Lake 08-10-2012 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Laus723 (Post 53451443)
Don't see how the Preds could take in that much salary on two players.

You'd be surprised...

Bouwmeester's cap hit is higher than his actual salary these next two years too.

flameaholic 08-10-2012 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Barney Gumble (Post 53451415)
Unless the Flames get one or more D back, wouldn't Bouwmeester departure leave a huge hole on their blueline (regardless of your opinion of him - he eat a ton of minutes)?

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And unless the Flames can become a better team by trading him away, they should keep him.
http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Hockey/NHL.../20088051.html

To answer your question, yes.

TLinden16 08-10-2012 11:36 AM

There is no news out there yet of Mez missing the whole season is there? These injuries can be mid-term to long-term, to long-long-term, wait and see approach.

And while I don't doubt that J-Bo is getting offers, your source is two Calgary based media outlets. Take the substance with a grain of salt. In the middle of the summer you have to write something to appease us hockey-crazed fans who are itchin' for the season to start.

King In The North 08-10-2012 11:37 AM

I hope to god Feaster gets the right and best offer here and not something like Butler/Byron.

InjuredChoker 08-10-2012 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Laus723 (Post 53451443)
Don't see how the Preds could take in that much salary on two players.

Their owner (one of them) just basically said after they matched Weber offer sheet that money isn't issue for them.

Le Magnifique 66 08-10-2012 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Laus723 (Post 53451443)
Don't see how the Preds could take in that much salary on two players.

Preds made offers to Parise and Suter, I think they will be able to afford Weber and Bouwmeester

King In The North 08-10-2012 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Barney Gumble (Post 53451415)
Unless the Flames get one or more D back, wouldn't Bouwmeester departure leave a huge hole on their blueline (regardless of your opinion of him - he does eat a ton of minutes)?

Yes. We have Gio and then there is a pretty big drop off in terms of defensive ability. Butler is good but is best suited as a 2nd pairing; shouldn't be considered an option against top players.

Gio-Wideman
Butler-Sarich
Brodie-Babchuk

Ishad 08-10-2012 11:41 AM

Good to see the Calgary Herald jumping in with TSN using a terrible mlive article as their source.

Trade talks are heating up says random blogger!

I personally like how:

"The Red Wings are concerned Philadelphia will make a big pitch for Bouwmeester after Flyers defenseman Andrej Meszaros underwent surgery Tuesday to repair a torn Achilles tendon that will sideline for the season."

Has now become:

"According to the report, the Red Wings stepped up their interest in Bouwmeester after learning the Philadelphia Flyers could make an offer in the wake of losing rearguard Andrej Meszaros all of next season with a torn Achilles tendon."

If this game of telephone keeps going soon will start seeing reports of Z being offered for Jbo.

WJG 08-10-2012 11:42 AM

If the Flames aren't rebuilding (which they don't look like they are), I don't understand why they would deal Bouwmeester. It's not like they have a deep pipeline of defense prospects beyond Brodie.

InfinityIggy 08-10-2012 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by WJG (Post 53451727)
If the Flames aren't rebuilding (which they don't look like they are), I don't understand why they would deal Bouwmeester. It's not like they have a deep pipeline of defense prospects beyond Brodie.

Because Feaster knows that the Flames need to add more good young pieces to the system, Bouwmeester is the best way of doing that without dismantling the team.

flameaholic 08-10-2012 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by WJG (Post 53451727)
If the Flames aren't rebuilding (which they don't look like they are), I don't understand why they would deal Bouwmeester. It's not like they have a deep pipeline of defense prospects beyond Brodie.

Our biggest need is at centre, but losing Bouwmeester's 25 minutes a night will hurt.

It will have to be one damn good offer.

Foppa 08-10-2012 11:45 AM

People are going to be mildly surprised by both how much the Flames get in a trade and how well Bouwmeester plays for another team if he does get dealt. I'm not saying he's going to garner the Flames a bunch of blue-chip studs but if you don't think GM's are willing to give up a few valuable assets for a 25 minute-per-night defenseman, then I think you are deluding yourself. Bouwmeester's contract is not the albatross it once was, both because the term is short at this point and because other defensemen are now making huge sums as well.

Furthermore, Bouwmeester is still young enough and still in prime physical condition to the extent that I think other organizations may think they can bring something "more" out of his game - and in the right place, it would not surprise me at all if he suddenly becomes more highly tought of on HF.

Captain Smurf 08-10-2012 11:46 AM

Its worth noting that alleged interest does not equal "hitting the mother load".

TOML 08-10-2012 11:46 AM

Has J-Bo asked to be traded or something? Not many teams would 'just give him up' at the moment.


TOML

GordieHoweHatTrick 08-10-2012 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by WJG (Post 53451727)
If the Flames aren't rebuilding (which they don't look like they are), I don't understand why they would deal Bouwmeester. It's not like they have a deep pipeline of defense prospects beyond Brodie.

To fill other holes. If Bouwmeester gets you a top-6 center and a body to slot into the top-4 D then they should do it. They may have to add a little to Bouwmeester to get the pieces they want though

NitHeel 08-10-2012 11:48 AM

Where in that piece does it say the Flyers made an offer for Bouwmeester, let alone "stepped up" their offer? All it does is speculate that with Meszaros going down, the Flyers might be interested.

Foppa 08-10-2012 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Smurf (Post 53451827)
Its worth noting that alleged interest does not equal "hitting the mother load".

Frankly, I think there are a whole lot more people around here that think Bouwmeester is some sort of worthess salary dump that canbe had for pennies on the dolar than there are Flames fans deluded into thinking they are getting a king's ransom back.

Homegrown Kings 08-10-2012 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by InfinityIggy (Post 53451471)
*Bouwmeester is garbage and will be move for 2nd + Random 3rd liner.*

Yeah those posts look pretty silly now. But don't forget there's been some silly posts from both sides.

"Bidding starts at top 6 player + 1st round pick + blue chip prospect."

oilsands 08-10-2012 11:53 AM

Just looked up Jay's stats.

Has played 18 playoff games at ALL levels of hockey. 9 years in the bigs, seasons in the AHL, seasons in the WHL.

0 points in those 18 games.

0 points at the Olympics as well.

Ouch.


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