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VanIslander 08-14-2012 09:50 PM

The MLD 2012 Assassination Thread
 

Post your completed 25-man roster, with one captain ('C') and two, only two, alternate captains ('A'), for standardization's sake.

Then assassinate each other's teams.:naughty:

Here are some previous assassination threads to get an idea of how it works.

ATD 2012 Line-up Assassination Thread


MLD 2011 Assassination Thread


and one of the best assassination threads ever, :thumbu: a classic:
ATD 2011 Line-up Assassination Thread

Assassinations received:

Regina Capitals (1/2)
Brynäs IF
Sherbrooke Castors
Winnipeg Monarchs
Winston-Salem Polar Twins
Yarmouth Mariners (2)
Zambia Mania (2)
Montreal Orfuns (3)

Assassinations given:

BillyShoe1721 (4)
tony d (3)
TheDevilMadeMe (2)
Vanislander
Dreakmur
Canadiens1952 (1/2)

Canadiens1958 08-14-2012 10:33 PM

Montreal Orfuns
 

Montreal Orfuns
Montreal Orfuns

Coach - Claude Ruel,
Assistant coach Guy Boucher

Goalies:
Jonathan Quick, Carey Price, Eddie Johnston

Defence:
Rick Green, Erik Karlsson
Don Sweeney, Kris Letang
Brad Marsh "C", Sylvain Cote
Charles Tobin,Bob Murray

Forwards:
Geoff Courtnall - Barry Pederson - Billy Harris
Shayne Corson ''A" - Jordan Staal - Russ Courtnall
Danny Grant - Mike Ridley - Claude Larose "A"
Erik Cole - Robert Lang - Modere "Mud" Bruneteau

PP1 - Geoff Courtnall - Barry Pederson - Billy Harris - Bob Murray - Erik Karlsson.
PP2 - Shayne Corson - Jordan Staal - Russ Courtnall - Don Sweeney - Kris Letang

PK1- Barry Pederson, Billy Harris, Brad Marsh,Sylvain Cote.
PK2 - Jordan Staal,Shayne Corson, Rick Green, Bob Murray.

1916 or earlier - Charles Tobin
1917-1942 - Modere Bruneteau
1943-1965 - Claude Larose
1966-1979 - Rick Green
1980-1994 - Shayne Corson
1995-2004 - Erik Cole
2012 - Erik Karlsson

Team has qualified for the playoffs.

Also would like to introduce our mascot and his apprentice.

Velociraptor 08-14-2012 10:59 PM


POWERPLAY (extra forwards: Libett, Barnes)

PP1: Morris Lukowich - Herb Jordan - Claude Giroux - Bob Dailey - Mario Marois
PP2: Don Maloney - Craig Janney - Keith Crowder - Gary Sargent - Alex Smith

PENALTY KILL: (extra forwards: Maloney, Libett)

PK1: Stu Barnes - Colin Patterson - Lou Fontinato - Jeff Beukeboom
PK2: Orest Kindrachuk - Chico Maki - Bob Dailey - Mario Marois

VanIslander 08-15-2012 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Canadiens1958 (Post 53584033)

Montreal Orfuns

coaches Claude Ruel, Guy Boucher

Geoff Courtnall - Barry Pederson - Billy Harris
Shayne Corson (A) - Jordan Staal - Russ Courtnall
Danny Grant - Mike Ridley - Claude Larose (A)
Erik Cole - Robert Lang - Mud Bruneteau

Rick Green - Erik Karlsson
Don Sweeney - Kris Letang
Brad Marsh (C) - Sylvain Cote

Charles Tobin, Bob Murray

Jonathan Quick
Carey Price
Eddie Johnston

This may be the first time a 25-man squad has had no extra forwards! Can the roster handle it? With injuries and suspensions, the forward core might have to roll three lines at times. Certainly, there's enough grit with Shayne and Chad, plus Geoff brings a chippy edge. Jordan, Mike and Mud are responsible defensively. There is no shutdown line, instead each line is balanced. Same with offense. In terms of scoring the team really has to rely on scoring from every line, by committee, as Russ and Erik are inconsistent, and Barry a youthful three-year peak followed by three decent seasons, probably the closest thing to reliable scoring on this squad. The top line has real chemistry with Billy bringing size and passing, Barry relaying the puck and shooting and Geoff crashing the boards, net and open spaces for passes and loose pucks. The line ought to create considerable pressure in the offensive zone, though it might be caught on some odd man rushes against with Harris in deep and Geoff famous for going out of position for a hit or opportunistic play. The second line is a bit more puzzling, with Russ' speed and passing a bit lost without a mate to rush with. Jordan will responsibly play the middle and Corson will power his way up ice and to the net and into traffic, but neither Corson nor Staal have the two-on-one counterattack potential that Russ brings. For this reason alone Russ may be better suited to the top line. The playoff experience of this forward group is noteworthy, with heroes in Geoff (109 pts) Shayne (87 pts), Russ (83 pts) and Mike (78 pts) with a couple of significant postseasons for Barry, Billy and of course there's Mud. This forward core is battle ready come the playoffs, no doubt about that. Whether they can score at the pace of other clubs in the regular season with no extras to call upon, rolling three lines at times, is an open question. This is a forward core that likes scrappy, broken plays and desperate, tight hockey. It is not built to protect leads or build them, for that matter. Expect them to be in every game, certainly with lots of intensity and effort from the top three lines.

The blueline is a shambles in terms of experience and reliability. If the forward core expected the backend to be a steadying influence, their rock, they are sadly mistaken. Karlsson and Letang are full of fire and as reckless as some of the forwards, but with a lot less experience. Karlsson's one regular season of excellence and two lesser years are supposed to carry the top pairing of this club when the Blackhawks career points leader among defenseman sits as an extra skater? His 514 points in Chicago has got to be worthwhile experience for this blueline, not to mention his 56 points in 112 NHL playoff games. Karlsson may have won the Norris but he followed that up with one point in the playoffs and critics galore. Erik is not ready for the role of top pairing on an all-time squad like this. Fortunately, Murray is. Here's hoping coach Ruel will ignore the GM's initial efforts and play Karlsson in a much lesser role down the stretch and into the playoffs. Letang has two significant postseasons and his pairingmate is as steady an influence as he needs. The third pairing is a real heart and soul pair, with Marsh a high energy battler and Cote a steady and consistent defender. Sweeny and Cote are as even keel on the backend as Staal and Ridley will be up front. This team needs that as it is full of fire and brimstone, though on bad nights it'll seem like just piss and vinegar.

The goaltending is interesting, with Quick bringing two good regular seasons before one amazing year in both the regular season and playoffs. He is a one-year wonder with a three-year peak and limited career. His backups include Price, who has four good regular seasons and three all-star games to atest for it, and Johnston, who had six winning seasons as a Bruins backup, and went a solid 6-1 in his starts on their 1972 Stanley Cup championship run. Expect Johnston to see a few starts in the regular season and certainly get a long look to dress as one of the two goalies in the playoffs.

Head coach Ruel is the Jonathan Quick of coaches: one awesome year in which he won a divisional title and led the team to the Stanley Cup championship, plus two decent seasons (a decade later) in which he guided the team to divisional titles only to falter early in the postseason. Assistant coach Boucher adds little in terms of top level experience or success, as he has two years of NHL experience with one conference finals run to his credit. But he also brings two Memorial Cup runs and a third year as top coach award winner in his junior league. He also assistant coached Canada to a couple of gold medals in U-18 and U-20 tourney play. Both Ruel and Boucher hope to catch lightning in a bottle with this line-up.

It's a high risk squad of risk-taking veteran forwards, experience-limited risky offensive defensemen and goaltending which sports a one-year wonder, a decent 3-year peak and a backup veteran with enough success to fill the gaps in the long, regular season, if not beyond. Roll the dice.

DaveG 08-15-2012 06:01 AM

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head coach:
Bill Dineen

captain:
Sami Kapanen

alternates:
Alexei Morozov
Robbie Ftorek
Tomas Kaberle

Steve Vickers - Robbie Ftorek - Alexei Morozov
Anton Stastny - Cliff Ronning - Marian Stastny
Sami Kapanen - Wayne Merrick - Tom Hooper
Dave Reid - Larry Patey - Willi Plett

Bingo Kampman - Hy Buller
Tomas Kaberle - Mike Milbury
Igor Stelnov - Sergei Starikov

Cam Ward
Gilles Meloche

Spares:
LW/C Hib Milks
RW Wayne Presley
D Bob Plager
D Jaro Spacek

PP1:
Vickers - Ftorek - Morozov
Kaberle - Hooper

PP2:
A Stastny - Ronning - M Stastny
Kapanen - Buller

PK1:
Reid - Patey
Kampman - Milbury

PK2:
Merrick - Kapanen
Stelnov - Starikov

PK3 (forwards only):
Ftorek - Hooper

will be adding more bios as I go to make this a far easier roster to assassinate

jkrx 08-15-2012 07:16 AM

Brynäs IF

Coach: Tommy Sandlin
Captain: Sven Tumba
Ass. Captains: Ulf Dahlen and Rolle Stoltz

Uffe Sterner - Sven Tumba - Mikael Renberg
Jörgen Pettersson - Niklas Bäckström - Ulf Dahlen
P.J. Axelsson - Thomas Gradin - Niklas Sundström
Johan Franzén - Nisse Nilsson - Ronald Pettersson
Sune Almqvist, Willy Lindström

Lasse Björn - Rolle Stoltz
Kim Johnsson - Niklas Kronwall
Marcus Ragnarsson - Alexander Edler
Axel Nilsson, Tobias Enström

Pelle Lindbergh
Leif "Honken" Holmqvist

PP1

Sterner - Tumba - Renberg
Björn - Stoltz

PP2

Pettersson - Bäckström - Dahlen
Edler - Kronwall

PK1

Gradin - Sundström
Johnsson - Ragnarsson

PK2

Sterner - Axelsson
Stoltz - Björn

Canadiens1958 08-15-2012 07:39 AM

Comments
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VanIslander (Post 53587739)
This may be the first time a 25-man squad has had no extra forwards! Can the roster handle it? With injuries and suspensions, the forward core might have to roll three lines at times. Certainly, there's enough grit with Shayne and Chad, plus Geoff brings a chippy edge. Jordan, Mike and Mud are responsible defensively. There is no shutdown line, instead each line is balanced. Same with offense. In terms of scoring the team really has to rely on scoring from every line, by committee, as Russ and Erik are inconsistent, and Barry a youthful three-year peak followed by three decent seasons, probably the closest thing to reliable scoring on this squad. The top line has real chemistry with Billy bringing size and passing, Barry relaying the puck and shooting and Geoff crashing the boards, net and open spaces for passes and loose pucks. The line ought to create considerable pressure in the offensive zone, though it might be caught on some odd man rushes against with Harris in deep and Geoff famous for going out of position for a hit or opportunistic play. The second line is a bit more puzzling, with Russ' speed and passing a bit lost without a mate to rush with. Jordan will responsibly play the middle and Corson will power his way up ice and to the net and into traffic, but neither Corson nor Staal have the two-on-one counterattack potential that Russ brings. For this reason alone Russ may be better suited to the top line. The playoff experience of this forward group is noteworthy, with heroes in Geoff (109 pts) Shayne (87 pts), Russ (83 pts) and Mike (78 pts) with a couple of significant postseasons for Barry, Billy and of course there's Mud. This forward core is battle ready come the playoffs, no doubt about that. Whether they can score at the pace of other clubs in the regular season with no extras to call upon, rolling three lines at times, is an open question. This is a forward core that likes scrappy, broken plays and desperate, tight hockey. It is not built to protect leads or build them, for that matter. Expect them to be in every game, certainly with lots of intensity and effort from the top three lines.

The blueline is a shambles in terms of experience and reliability. If the forward core expected the backend to be a steadying influence, their rock, they are sadly mistaken. Karlsson and Letang are full of fire and as reckless as some of the forwards, but with a lot less experience. Karlsson's one regular season of excellence and two lesser years are supposed to carry the top pairing of this club when the Blackhawks career points leader among defenseman sits as an extra skater? His 514 points in Chicago has got to be worthwhile experience for this blueline, not to mention his 56 points in 112 NHL playoff games. Karlsson may have won the Norris but he followed that up with one point in the playoffs and critics galore. Erik is not ready for the role of top pairing on an all-time squad like this. Fortunately, Murray is. Here's hoping coach Ruel will ignore the GM's initial efforts and play Karlsson in a much lesser role down the stretch and into the playoffs. Letang has two significant postseasons and his pairingmate is as steady an influence as he needs. The third pairing is a real heart and soul pair, with Marsh a high energy battler and Cote a steady and consistent defender. Sweeny and Cote are as even keel on the backend as Staal and Ridley will be up front. This team needs that as it is full of fire and brimstone, though on bad nights it'll seem like just piss and vinegar.

The goaltending is interesting, with Quick bringing two good regular seasons before one amazing year in both the regular season and playoffs. He is a one-year wonder with a three-year peak and limited career. His backups include Price, who has four good regular seasons and three all-star games to atest for it, and Johnston, who had six winning seasons as a Bruins backup, and went a solid 6-1 in his starts on their 1972 Stanley Cup championship run. Expect Johnston to see a few starts in the regular season and certainly get a long look to dress as one of the two goalies in the playoffs.

Head coach Ruel is the Jonathan Quick of coaches: one awesome year in which he won a divisional title and led the team to the Stanley Cup championship, plus two decent seasons (a decade later) in which he guided the team to divisional titles only to falter early in the postseason. Assistant coach Boucher adds little in terms of top level experience or success, as he has two years of NHL experience with one conference finals run to his credit. But he also brings two Memorial Cup runs and a third year as top coach award winner in his junior league. He also assistant coached Canada to a couple of gold medals in U-18 and U-20 tourney play. Both Ruel and Boucher hope to catch lightning in a bottle with this line-up.

It's a high risk squad of risk-taking veteran forwards, experience-limited risky offensive defensemen and goaltending which sports a one-year wonder, a decent 3-year peak and a backup veteran with enough success to fill the gaps in the long, regular season, if not beyond. Roll the dice.

Charles Tobin is also a forward, having played all three positions plus defense.

Coaching. The duo of Ruel and Boucher have a history of winning and innovative coaching. Ruel developed numerous HHOF defensemen plus he played young defensemen as forwards - Roberts, Savard, Watson, Vadnais, Robinson, Bouchard, Chartraw. Hint about Karlsson in certain situations. Boucher turned around teams at all levels winning withe the players on hand. He has extensive international experience and a university background. Boucher is also on of the few NA coaches that coaches the 1-3-1. Key attribute when coaching against Team Sweden.

Goaltending. Young goaltenders have often been the cornerstone of hockey dynasties. Short list - Clint Benedict, bad 1915 SC final, Terry Sawchuk, Plante/Hodge, Ken Dryden, Smith/Resch, Fuhr/Moog, Roy.Quick and Price, in their short careers have significant success and honours.

Ed Johnston is an ideal third goalie. He coached in the NHL so he will have value as a player/coach, mentoring the young goalies.

Defensemen. MLD - no one else has a Norris winner on their roster and a legit contender. Rather play with than against such a team.
The pairings are balanced.LHS/RHS so moving the puck will be efficient. Player selections were based on blueprints of successful teams. Late forties Leafs, Mid sixties Canadiens all featured young and relatively inexperienced dmen. This team has a better balance between youth and experience than the 1986 Canadiens did.

Forwards. Your Billy Harris concern is interesting for a RW raised in the Leafs organization. Basic issue was that Harris was not the scorer that was projected. His discipline,defense and positional play was strong.Aggressive forechecking from the centers will drive the four lines. Four lines with the skills necessary to execute a standard defensive template. This is the MLD so the natural offensive talents or high end defensive players are not available, leaving the Larouche, Cloutier types, the injured or troubled. Still, the forwards have a history of scoring and producing.

Zombie Mike Murphy 08-15-2012 08:46 AM

Raleigh Icecaps

Coach: Bryan Murray

Jimmy Gardner (C)-Pierre Larouche-Nikolai Drozdetsky
Steve Payne-Ivan Boldirev-Gary Leeman
John Sorrell-Nylander-Mike Knuble
Tiger Williams (A)-Andrew Cassels-Jeff O'Neill

Keith Yandle-Gordie Roberts (A)
Garry Galley-Jim Morrison
Sheldon Souray-Eric Weinrich (A)

Spares:

Marc Bergevin, D
Brian Smolkinski, LW/C/RW
Hal Gill, D
Radek Dvorak, RW

Khabibulin
Kirk Mclean

TheDevilMadeMe 08-15-2012 01:11 PM

some brief comments, mostly on special teams

Quote:

Montreal Orfuns

PP1 - Geoff Courtnall - Barry Pederson - Billy Harris - Bob Murray - Erik Karlsson.
PP2 - Shayne Corson - Jordan Staal - Russ Courtnall - Don Sweeney - Kris Letang

PK1- Barry Pederson, Billy Harris, Brad Marsh,Sylvain Cote.
PK2 - Jordan Staal,Shayne Corson, Rick Green, Bob Murray.
I notice that you have Bob Murray sitting on the bench on your main roster but playing big special teams minutes? Not sure how that's suppose to work.

Your first PP is pretty good. Second PP seems very weak, and will be even weaker if you move Letang to the first unit to take the place of the benched Bob Murray.

PK defensemen are good - no idea why you have Barry Pederson on the first unit over Jordan Staal

Suggestion: Drop Eddie Johnston (who is basically redundant with Quick - clutch guy with a limited resume) for a forward who can help the second PP unit.

I also need some serious convincing that Guy Boucher is more than just a warm body at this point in time

TheDevilMadeMe 08-15-2012 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Velicoraptor
Question: Does anybody like Alex Smith in the bottom pairing instead of Christian Ehrhoff?

I would dress him instead of Sargent, who had a short and injury plagued career. (Seventieslord probably prefers Sargent to Ehrhoff).

Either way, I think you need Alex Smith in your lineup. He was considered something of a star in his day, and that's more than Ehrhoff, Sargent, or Beukeboom can say. Smith's offensive numbers are very good for a defenseman - I would honestly consider partnering him with Fontinato on the second pair

Canadiens1958 08-15-2012 02:22 PM

Details
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDevilMadeMe (Post 53597751)
some brief comments, mostly on special teams



I notice that you have Bob Murray sitting on the bench on your main roster but playing big special teams minutes? Not sure how that's suppose to work.

Your first PP is pretty good. Second PP seems very weak, and will be even weaker if you move Letang to the first unit to take the place of the benched Bob Murray.

PK defensemen are good - no idea why you have Barry Pederson on the first unit over Jordan Staal

Suggestion: Drop Eddie Johnston (who is basically redundant with Quick - clutch guy with a limited resume) for a forward who can help the second PP unit.

I also need some serious convincing that Guy Boucher is more than just a warm body at this point in time

If I flip Rederson and Staal on the PK, I have to play the third or fourth line post PK since I have split linemates from lines 1 and 2. As is the lines stay intact and post PK I have the choice of three lines.

The forward who can help the second PP unit does not exist at the MLD level. Worst case scenario is that I move Grant/Cole to the 2ndPP and play Karlsson as a forward at times on the PP against certain defences. This was done with dmen like Vadnais, Savard, Larry Robinson. Then there was Red Kelly. Easy to live with.

Bob Murray is the smallest of our defensemen and the most versatile.

Guy Boucher. Name another NA coach that can successfully coach the 1-3-1? Team Sweden, will be playing the 1-3-1. Need someone with experience to defend the 1-3-1 plus a balanced team like mine is well suited to play the 1-3-1 which answers the offensive and PP concerns as well.

Dropping Johnston. Not an option for the leftovers available.. No other team has the goalie defensemen depth that we do. Will listen to trades that upgrade our team.

tony d 08-15-2012 05:24 PM

Have at her guys:

Chicago Blaze

Steve Thomas-Billy Taylor (A)-Ray Sheppard
Cory Stillman -Erich Kuhnhackl-Cliff Koroll
Andrew Brunette-Kelly Kisio (A)-Tony Granato
Eric Vail-Alexei Guryshev-Martin Havlat

Dave Semenko and Frank Rankin (Extras)

Jeff Brown-Joe Jerwa(C)
John Van Boxmeer-Bob Turner
Bruce Driver-Billy Coutu

Yuri Fedorov and Dave Lewis (Extras)

Ryan Miller
Gerry Mcneil

Coach: Marc Crawford

Special Teams:

PP 1: Thomas-Taylor-Sheppard-Brown-Jerwa
PP2: Vail-Kuhnhackl-Granato-Van Boxmeer-Driver

PK 1: Granato-Kisio-Jerwa-Driver
PK 2: Brunette-Koroll-Van Boxmeer-Turner

Era Requirements:

pre-1917: Billy Coutu, Frank Rankin
1917-1942: Joe Jerwa, Billy Taylor
1943-1965: Bob Turner, Gerry Mcneil, Alexei Guryshev
1966-1979: Erich Kuhnhackl, Cliff Koroll, John Van Boxmeer, Eric Vail, Dave Semenko, Dave Lewis, Yuri Fedorov
1980-1994: Steve Thomas, Ray Sheppard, Jeff Brown, Kelly Kisio, Tony Granato, Bruce Driver
1995-2004: Ryan Miller, Cory Stillman, Andrew Brunette
active 2012: Martin Havlat

Bios:

http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...1&postcount=77 (Billy Taylor)http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...1&postcount=83 (Jeff Brown)http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...&postcount=135 (Joe Jerwa)http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...&postcount=136 (steve Thomas)http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...&postcount=138 (ryan Miller)http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...&postcount=139 (Erich Kuhnhackl)http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...&postcount=140 (Cliff Koroll)http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...&postcount=142 (john Van Boxmeer)http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...&postcount=146 (Ray Sheppard)http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...&postcount=147 (Cory Stillman)http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...&postcount=148 (Marc Crawford)http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...&postcount=149 (Gerry Mcneil)http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...&postcount=154 (billy Coutu)http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...&postcount=155 (Bruce Driver)
http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...&postcount=157 (Bob Turner)
http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...&postcount=159 (Andrew Brunette)
http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...&postcount=160 (Kelly Kisio)
http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...&postcount=162 (Tony Granato)
http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...&postcount=163 (Eric Vail)
http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...&postcount=164 (Alexei Guryshev)
http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...&postcount=166 (Martin Havlat)

tarheelhockey 08-15-2012 05:31 PM

Winston-Salem Polar Twins


Power Play 1
Riley - Nilsson - Kehoe
Ellett - Guevremont

Power Play 2
Juneau - Horvath - Bernier
Kiessling - Maxwell

Penalty Kill 1
Burns - Brown
Ellett - Butcher

Penalty Kill 2
Yelle - Juneau
Langlois - Guevremont

Team Concept

Each forward line has a distinct identity and role. The first line is built around speed and puck movement, with Kehoe as the triggerman for two playmakers. The second line is your typical passer-scorer-garbageman setup, except this time the centerman (Horvath) is the trigger. Also, the second line features solid defensive wingers in Juneau and Dornhoefer. Third line is built around the concept of counterattack -- an excellent shutdown center and playmaker in Charlie Burns, flanked by wingers Bernier and Riley, who are dangerous in odd-man transition. Basically, the opponent has a shadow on its best forward and another forward staying high, negating a large part of its attack. The fourth line is essentially an energy line -- Yelle ensures possession on the faceoff and feeds Brown and Boll to move the puck out of danger. Brown will draw penalties on a regular basis, which is significant considering he will usually take a bottom-6 PK guy with him.

The defense is built around balance. Each line features at least one capable offensive player and at least one guy who will play a hard-hitting defensive game. RHS and LHS are balanced on each line. I'm considering top-loading the offensive talent, but still leaning against that idea.

Karakas will get the majority of starts in the early season, and the reins will slowly be handed to Irbe in time for him to be the playoff starter.

The spares cover all positions. Dolly Swift can fill in as a puck-rushing defenseman or a top-6 forward. Henning will cover checking roles. Brown is reliable as a defensive defenseman. I'd feel comfortable switching all of these guys in and out of the lineup on a healthy basis, as matchups demand.

Cherry will get the most out of the gritty SOB's on the team, of which there are several. ****-disturbers Brown, Horvath and Kiessling will ensure that nobody plays a quiet penalty-free game against this group. When things get ugly, the team has several players who are happy to drop the gloves, and feed Cherry's game plan. King provides the yin to Cherry's yang, managing the more nuanced aspects of the game and keeping Cherry's negatives in check.

Dreakmur 08-15-2012 05:36 PM


PP1: Thomas Vanek - Paul Haynes - Jimmy Ward - Mark Streit - Mike Green
PP2: Ed Sandford - Donald Smith - Eddie Wiseman - Mark Streit/Miroslav Dvorak - Mike Green/Doug Young

PK1: Todd Marchant - Jimmy Roberts - Walt Buswell - Scott Hannan
PK2: Charlie Sands - Steve Sullivan - Miroslav Dvorak - Doug Young
PK3: Paul Haynes - Jimmy Ward

TheDevilMadeMe 08-15-2012 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dreakmur (Post 53606159)

PP1: Thomas Vanek - Paul Haynes - Jimmy Ward - Mark Streit - Mike Green
PP2: Ed Sandford - Donald Smith - Eddie Wiseman - Mark Streit/Miroslav Dvorak - Mike Green/Doug Young

PK1: Todd Marchant - Jimmy Roberts - Walt Buswell - Scott Hannan
PK2: Charlie Sands - Steve Sullivan - Miroslav Dvorak - Doug Young
PK3: Paul Haynes - Jimmy Ward


We're considering dressing Zabrodsky to center the second line, dropping Donald Smith to the third line.

Possibilities for the bottom 6:

Donald Smith - Sands/Sullivan - Billy Gilmour
Sands/Sullivan/Maloney - Marchant - Roberts

Smith and Sands are C/LW and Sullivan can play any forward position, so we have lots of options if we do this.
Thoughts?

TheDevilMadeMe 08-15-2012 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Canadiens1958 (Post 53600347)
If I flip Rederson and Staal on the PK, I have to play the third or fourth line post PK since I have split linemates from lines 1 and 2. As is the lines stay intact and post PK I have the choice of three lines.

Okay, I just think Jordan Staal is your best PK option and I would do whatever possible to get him on the first unit (maybe move Corson up too?)

Quote:

The forward who can help the second PP unit does not exist at the MLD level. Worst case scenario is that I move Grant/Cole to the 2ndPP and play Karlsson as a forward at times on the PP against certain defences. This was done with dmen like Vadnais, Savard, Larry Robinson. Then there was Red Kelly. Easy to live with.
Now that I think about it, why not have Robert Lang replace Staal on the second PP? He's definitely a better PP player than Staal, and Staal gets more ice time in a defensive role.

Quote:

Bob Murray is the smallest of our defensemen and the most versatile.
Nobody is versatile enough to play special teams when he isn't dressed :)


Quote:

Guy Boucher. Name another NA coach that can successfully coach the 1-3-1? Team Sweden, will be playing the 1-3-1. Need someone with experience to defend the 1-3-1 plus a balanced team like mine is well suited to play the 1-3-1 which answers the offensive and PP concerns as well.
I don't know why you need to counter a 1-3-1 with another 1-3-1. I do know that Boucher has coached 2 NHL seasons, only once making the playoffs. His brief AHL record is nice, but the modern AHL is a far cry from the AHL when the NHL only had 6 teams.

Quote:

Dropping Johnston. Not an option for the leftovers available.. No other team has the goalie defensemen depth that we do. Will listen to trades that upgrade our team.
You're right. No other team has three goalies...

Canadiens1958 08-15-2012 06:54 PM

Details II
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDevilMadeMe (Post 53606659)
Okay, I just think Jordan Staal is your best PK option and I would do whatever possible to get him on the first unit (maybe move Corson up too?)



Now that I think about it, why not have Robert Lang replace Staal on the second PP? He's definitely a better PP player than Staal, and Staal gets more ice time in a defensive role.



Nobody is versatile enough to play special teams when he isn't dressed :)




I don't know why you need to counter a 1-3-1 with another 1-3-1. I do know that Boucher has coached 2 NHL seasons, only once making the playoffs. His brief AHL record is nice, but the modern AHL is a far cry from the AHL when the NHL only had 6 teams.



You're right. No other team has three goalies...

PK1 & PK2 are somewhat arbitrary. On ice circumstances dictate which unit goes out first.

Lang as a PP2 center yields two RHS as PP centers. Far from ideal.

Murray will dress. dmen have a high attrition rate with injuries and I would rather have a quality #7 than search for a stop gap.

Tarheels has 3 goalies also.

You have to defend the 1-3-1 where Boucher comes in very handy. Also my team has 2 dmen better than Subban who was with Boucher in Hamilton when he ran a 1-3-1 so it is definitely an offensive alternative that our team can exploit.

tarheelhockey 08-15-2012 07:03 PM

My third goalie is a joke that I put on the roster thread before we started picking. I should have removed him now, but frankly I forgot he was still there.

M.T. Knett... say it out loud :)

BillyShoe1721 08-15-2012 09:16 PM

Winnipeg Monarchs

http://images.wikia.com/icehockey/im...g_Monarchs.gif

Coach: Bobby Kromm
Captain: Billy McGimsie
Assistant Captain:Sergei Babinov, David Backes


Murray Craven-Billy McGimsie-Wally Hergesheimer
Nick Mickoski-Billy Reay-Blaine Stoughton
Bob Gracie-Pete Stemkowski-Dave Christian
Darcy Tucker-Alexei Zhamnov-David Backes
Petr Nedved, Pat Boutette

Joe Cooper-Larry Hillman
Sergei Babinov-Jim McKenny
Robert Picard-Janne Niinimaa
Oleg Tverdovsky

Don Beaupre
Bill Ranford

PP1: Craven-McGimsie-Hergesheimer
McKenny-Niinimaa

PP2: Mickoski-Zhamnov-Stoughton
Hillman-Cooper

PK1: Craven-Reay
Babinov-Hillman

PK2: Stemkowski-Zhamnov
Cooper-Picard

PK3: Gracie-Backes
Babinov-Picard

Jafar 08-16-2012 01:16 PM

MONTREAL MAROONS
http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images...jpg?1282940737

Randy Carlyle

Zach Parise - Syl Apps Jr. - Jiri Lala
Alex Tanguay - Dave Gagner - Joe Carveth
Shawn Burr - Mike Ricci - Grant Warwick
Carl Liscombe - Mike Fisher - Mike Grier
Mark Napier - Oren Frood

Pekka Rautakallio - Jay Bouwmeester
Uwe Krupp - Darryl Sydor
Doug Crossman - Baldy Spittal
Marek Zidlicky

Jean-Sébastien Giguère
Dwayne Roloson
Jose Theodore

seventieslord 08-16-2012 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDevilMadeMe (Post 53598513)
Seventieslord probably prefers Sargent to Ehrhoff

Absolutely I do.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tarheelhockey (Post 53606017)
Karakas will get the majority of starts in the early season, and the reins will slowly be handed to Irbe in time for him to be the playoff starter.
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I can’t see this working. No goalie wants to be the sacrificial regular season lamb so that a better playoff goalie can take over. A better goalie is a better goalie. You have to live or die with your starter. If I had these two goalies, I would play Karakas and simply state “if Karakas should falter in the playoffs we have a guy with more playoff experience on the bench”.

tarheelhockey 08-16-2012 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seventieslord (Post 53630813)
I can’t see this working. No goalie wants to be the sacrificial regular season lamb so that a better playoff goalie can take over. A better goalie is a better goalie. You have to live or die with your starter. If I had these two goalies, I would play Karakas and simply state “if Karakas should falter in the playoffs we have a guy with more playoff experience on the bench”.

Simply recognizing that Irbe is the better big-game goalie. Karakas in the playoffs is nothing special.

If it comes down to it, I'd rather platoon during the season and give Irbe the reins for the playoffs. Karakas' ego is not a concern in the postseason.

TheDevilMadeMe 08-16-2012 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tarheelhockey (Post 53632539)
Simply recognizing that Irbe is the better big-game goalie. Karakas in the playoffs is nothing special.

If it comes down to it, I'd rather platoon during the season and give Irbe the reins for the playoffs. Karakas' ego is not a concern in the postseason.

I'm not sure why you think Irbe, who basically had 2 great playoff runs in his career (1994, 2002) is a "big game" goalie, while Karakas isn't

tarheelhockey 08-16-2012 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDevilMadeMe (Post 53634585)
I'm not sure why you think Irbe, who basically had 2 great playoff runs in his career (1994, 2002) is a "big game" goalie, while Karakas isn't

Undoubtedly has a lot to do with seeing it with my own eyes as opposed to taking someone else's word for it. Irbe's 1994 and 2002 were pretty memorable as underdog playoff performances go. He also had a pretty good 1990 Super Series and a couple of good WCs behind awful Latvian teams.

Karakas just doesn't strike me as being known for his playoff performances. He's not terrible, just doesn't stand out in that respect.

BillyShoe1721 08-16-2012 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tarheelhockey (Post 53635259)
Undoubtedly has a lot to do with seeing it with my own eyes as opposed to taking someone else's word for it. Irbe's 1994 and 2002 were pretty memorable as underdog playoff performances go. He also had a pretty good 1990 Super Series and a couple of good WCs behind awful Latvian teams.

Karakas just doesn't strike me as being known for his playoff performances. He's not terrible, just doesn't stand out in that respect.

The best part about Karakas is his playoff performances.

Quote:

The Blackhawks didn't look like they'd last long in the 1938 playoffs, but not only did they, but they shocked the experts by beating the powerful Leafs to win the Stanley Cup. Karakas played very well in the semifinal and final, even though Karakas was forced out of the first two games of the finals with a broken toe. Alfie Moore took over and won the game. After Moore was ruled ineligible and Paul Goodman lost the second game, Karakas returned for game three and four wearing a steel toe guard and completed the storybook upset over the Leafs. Allowing only 15 goals all post-season, Karakas was very sharp, giving the Hawks their last Cup until 1961 when a new generation took over.

In the playoffs he unthinkably led another Cinderella Hawks team into the Stanley Cup finals. But this time the Montreal Canadiens were unbeatable in the playoffs, and though Karakas was good, he wasn't good enough to stop the Habs powerful attack. The Blackhawks were swept in four straight games.
http://blackhawkslegends.blogspot.co...e-karakas.html


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