Van/Chi then Van/Was
 

Niklas Hjalmarsson, Corey Crawford, 1st rounder
- Keith Ballard, Roberto Luongo

Jeff Schultz, Michal Neuvirth, 1st rounder
- Corey Crawford, Niklas Hjalmarsson


Chicago gets a top flight goalie and a dman who would be #4 or 5 on depth chart..

Washington gets an upgrade in goal and on defense and gets rid of Schultz..

Vancouver gets cap space and picks, while still retaining a backup and a 6th dman..

Chicago is giving up way too much

I didn't know the Hawks were taking on other team's cap dumps. Luongo would be an upgrade but no way and I mean no way in hell are we taking on Ballard's contract and that is on top of what we are giving up in the first place. Thanks but no thanks.

I am guessing Caps fans wont be happy with the second deal. Crawford's value is an all time low.

So Luongo, Ballard for 2 late 1sts, Jeff Schultz, and Neuvirth.

Personally I'd rather have Ballard than Schultz, and Neuvirth doesn't realy fill a need if Lack is capable. Value isn't bad, but I'd rather have an NHL ready prospect who can challenge for a top 6 role i top 6 forwards are of the table.

Caps are set in goal. They're going to let Holtby sink or swim.

Terrible deal for the Canucks.

While I really like the Caps, it woul be nice if Holtby struggles and you become a suitor for Luongo. You have great prospects and great roster players and are out of conference.

What's the incentive for Vancouver to do this, besides downgrading at every position to get a 1st rounder?

Getting two 1st round picks, Neuvirth and Schultz for two guys who on most nights will end up a combined 10-12min on the ice is a deal worth taking. Not to mention dumping around 9.5m in cap space and only taking up a fraction of cap back. Good luck if you are expecting something more than this for Luongo because this already looks like massive overpayment from both Washington and Chicago.

We get 2, but agreed, I wouldn't do this.

I still like the offer some Leaf fans were okay with in Kadri, Lombardi, 1st.

For reference...
Vancouver gives up: Keith Ballard, Roberto Luongo
Vancouver gets: Jeff Schultz, Michal Neuvirth, CHI 1st, WAS 1st


I think the problem here is that Crawford for Neuvirth is a Bad Move for Washington. Their goaltending already has too many question marks, and that just adds more.

It's otherwise shockingly close to reasonable IMO. I'm kind of surprised. I imagine Nucks fans would want more back for Lou, but I'm not sure if that's going to happen.

Its two firsts, both in a great draft I would like to add. Ballard is paid 4.2m to play on the third pairing so its essentially Luongo + cap dump for all that.

Jeff Schultz is also a cap dump. It's essentially Luongo for 2 late 1sts + Neuvirth, but I'd rather use Lack as a backup, and get an NHL ready prospect instead.

This is bad. Vancouver has no interest in this, even though Neuvirth seems like a legit young goalie, Washington should have no interest in this with their goaltending situation, and Chicago should have no interest, despite IMO them getting more then they give. Bad all around, our humblest apologies to the other fanbases.

Van might have interest but makes no sense for the others.

How is Chicago giving up more we are receiving? Ballard and Luongo would be cap crippling for us. The only thing we are getting back is one horrible cap mess.

Luongo has also been horribly inconsistent in the playoffs, a time when we would need him the most. Chicago is not a fringe playoff team that needs a good regular season goalie to carry us into the playoffs. We need a goalie who has shown more of a backbone than Luongo has.

Valuewise it seems fair, it just doesn't make sense from any of the team's perspectives.

Also, FYI, Luongo's playoff save percentage is 20th all time, just EDIT three spots below Lundqvist, and one above Rinne.

Right, because at this point cap space will play 23 minutes per game and score 30 goals for us. :shakehead

I would much rather keep an elite goalie than dump him for unused cap space, some meh players, and a couple late firsts.

FYI Luongo has been PULLED from
PLAYOFF games about 4 times in the past 3 years.

Chicago needs a playoff goalie, not one of carries us into a #2 seed

FYI the Canucks forwards and defense in the playoffs have played pretty poorly in the past 3 years. That's not always on goaltending.

People know Ballards cap hit is 4.2 right?
That's about 400-600,000 overpaid. Based on his play so far. Honestly if be was paid 3.75 no one would complain and everyone would say he serves his purpose.

It seems like people think be has an atrocious contract.
Is he overpaid? Yes, but not by a large margin.

Also why would Ballard be a cap dump? He's still a puck carrying dman who at times plays like a 3/4 guy but some nights at worst he's a number 5 who has one giveaway.

Washington gets an upgrade in goal and on defense and gets rid of Schultz..


Crawfor is NOT an upgrade. Losing Schulltz is good but just cut him.

No interest in trading anything of value to get Luongo, let alone adding more to trade for Ballard who can't even hold down a top 4 spot on Vancouvers defense.

Hjalmarsson >Ballard
Crawford +1st > Luongos value

Canuck fans defend and say why its a bad deal when the opposite teams no! Joking...but Seriously expecting Chi to take on 10 mill in salary for just an upgrade in net? Ridiculous, Hammer is better then Ballard, Lou then Crawford, and the 1st is dumb. SeriouslyHammer abd a 1st for Lou is more then fair. But this a real real bad trade for all parties involved. Van included.

I would not take Hjaalmarsson and a 1st for Luongo, especially not to Chicago.

But I agree none of the teams do it.