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LALALALALALAFONTAINE 09-19-2003 06:25 AM

Oilers/Sabres & Habs/Sabres proposalas
 
Comrie, 23, unsigned
Smith, 30 in November, $2.3M

for

McKee, 26, unsigned
Connolly, 22, $1.245M
Noronen, 24, $.55M

Why the Sabres do this deal: Comrie is an upgrade on Connolly and Smith is an upgrade on McKee and Noronen is a backup.

Why the Oilers do this deal: cut costs, ability to deal Salo to get rid of his salary with Noronen, McKee won't be eligible for UFA while Smith will in one year, Connolly has the skills and may need new environment. If the Oilers want Kotalik or Afinogenov instead of Connolly...sure.

Briere, 26 in October, $1.6M
future consideration Boulton, 27, $.55M

for

Komisarek, 21, $1.13M

Why the Sabres do this deal: get a RD, and have Comrie who can replace Briere. Dumping Boulton's contract in favor of Peters.

Why the Habs do this deal: get a frontline offensive player who is young, cheap and French-Canadian. Boulton gives some size.

Net salary impact for the Sabres: -$.515M + differences between McKee and Comrie's salary.

Assuming Satan gets signed:

Kotalik / Drury / Satan
Hecht / Comrie / Dumont
Pyatt / Brown / Afinogenov
Peters / Begin / Mair

Zhitnik / Smith
Kalinin / Komisarek
Tallinder / Delmore

Biron
Miller

WhoIsJimBob 09-19-2003 06:29 AM

What happens to Campbell, Patrick, and Fitzpatrick?

And remember all 3 of them have 1 way contracts.

Owen Wilson 09-19-2003 06:45 AM

Ahh, so the Habs get smaller, great!!

NO!

Komisarek goes nowhere :teach:

6 String Benny 09-19-2003 06:49 AM

When Habs fan post about how great Komo is they get scorned by everyone saying that he is over rated,yet he is coveted by everyone who post trade proposals.Can someone tell me why it is this way?

Munchausen 09-19-2003 06:51 AM

Yeah says the Habs, lets get even smaller so the other team can't find us anymore on the ice. Good plan. Works for me.

Prendan Brust 09-19-2003 06:54 AM

Even though Briere is a good player, I don't think the habs would want him. Komi fills a big need for the habs while we have Koivu and Ribeiro to a lesser degree that fills Briere role. Add Perreault to the mix and you see easily why the Habs would'nt need Briere.

officeglen 09-19-2003 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Munchausen
Yeah says the Habs, lets get even smaller so the other team can't find us anymore on the ice. Good plan. Works for me.

The fans in the upper reaches of the Bell Canada Centre (Centre de Cloche Quebec).

"Hey they look like ants way down there."

"They are ants."

"Yes, but very fast ants."

godblessHabs 09-19-2003 07:47 AM

Stop taking drugs

Montreal is never gonna go get a center less then 6 feet, we have a ton of that **** here

Les Zarbites 09-19-2003 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by officeglen
The fans in the upper reaches of the Bell Canada Centre (Centre de Cloche Quebec).

"Hey they look like ants way down there."

"They are ants."

"Yes, but very fast ants."

:joker:

jofa 09-19-2003 08:25 AM

I think the Edmonton trade is pretty fair. Edmonton could use more goaltenders in their system, and Connolly gives more size to the center position. Connolly also has a lot of potential to bust out offensively and has the skills to be a great player, but just hasn't put it all together yet. The bad part about this deal from an Oiler perspective is that it weakens a blue line that already has too many question marks around it...

oilers_guy_eddie 09-19-2003 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LALALALALALAFONTAINE
Comrie, 23, unsigned
Smith, 30 in November, $2.3M

for

McKee, 26, unsigned
Connolly, 22, $1.245M
Noronen, 24, $.55M

I love it. Deal.

LALALALALALAFONTAINE 09-19-2003 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Bob
What happens to Campbell, Patrick, and Fitzpatrick?

And remember all 3 of them have 1 way contracts.

Patrick was always a spare in my mind. A very good one, but he can't play a regular shift.

In reality, Tallinder would be going back to Rochester in this scenario, since he's on a two-way contract.

Jeffrey 09-19-2003 09:44 AM

komi goes nowhere!

LALALALALALAFONTAINE 09-19-2003 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by godblessHabs
Stop taking drugs

Montreal is never gonna go get a center less then 6 feet, we have a ton of that **** here

I will stop taking drugs, thinking it is possible to reason with Habs fans. It ain't. Wallow in your feculence.

Briere has more goals last year than Komisarek has games played. He would be the second highest scorer on a team that lacks scoring.

If size matters so much, and current production doesn't, how about dealing Koivu for Thorburn and McMorrow?

Chayos 09-19-2003 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LALALALALALAFONTAINE
Comrie, 23, unsigned
Smith, 30 in November, $2.3M

for

McKee, 26, unsigned
Connolly, 22, $1.245M
Noronen, 24, $.55M

Why the Sabres do this deal: Comrie is an upgrade on Connolly and Smith is an upgrade on McKee and Noronen is a backup.

Why the Oilers do this deal: cut costs, ability to deal Salo to get rid of his salary with Noronen, McKee won't be eligible for UFA while Smith will in one year, Connolly has the skills and may need new environment. If the Oilers want Kotalik or Afinogenov instead of Connolly...sure.

This deal is actually6 pretty good from an oiler standpoint. So it is connolly and Noronen for Comrie and Mckee for Smith.

I like this and would love to see ti happen. I wonder if this deal would be contingent on The briere deal, becase then it is a moot point as the habs fans were not interested in Comrie straight up for komo either.

Fender 09-19-2003 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LALALALALALAFONTAINE
Comrie, 23, unsigned
Smith, 30 in November, $2.3M

for

McKee, 26, unsigned
Connolly, 22, $1.245M
Noronen, 24, $.55M
Dunno if Buffalo would do that...I like it from an Oilers perspective...maybe the Oilers would have to add a pick or a prospect to get that done?

Marksman 09-19-2003 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LALALALALALAFONTAINE
Briere has more goals last year than Komisarek has games played. He would be the second highest scorer on a team that lacks scoring.

If size matters so much, and current production doesn't, how about dealing Koivu for Thorburn and McMorrow?

Canadiens sucked offensively allright but do you realize Sabres were even weaker team in that? Buffalo actually needs Briere more. Habs are in need of defensive help and where Komi comes to picture.

Thorburn and McMorrow arent your top prospects, like Komisarek is for Habs - and I wouldnt compare Briere to Koivu either, but I guess you're being sarcastic.

Sorry, no sale.

Patty Roy 09-19-2003 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LALALALALALAFONTAINE
Briere, 26 in October, $1.6M
future consideration Boulton, 27, $.55M

for

Komisarek, 21, $1.13M

Why the Sabres do this deal: get a RD, and have Comrie who can replace Briere. Dumping Boulton's contract in favor of Peters.

Why the Habs do this deal: get a frontline offensive player who is young, cheap and French-Canadian. Boulton gives some size.

Horrible, horrible trade for the Habs.

Try to consider both teams needs and wants when putting together a proposal. The last thing the Habs need is another midget center (need i remind you that the Habs currently have Koivu, Perreault, Ribeiro and Juneau down the middle, with Chris Higgins being our best C prospect and he isn't exactly a giant either). A team would have to overpay BIG TIME to get Mike Komisarek out of Montreal.

LALALALALALAFONTAINE 09-19-2003 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fender
Dunno if Buffalo would do that...I like it from an Oilers perspective...maybe the Oilers would have to add a pick or a prospect to get that done?

Interesting. When I proposed it, I thought the Oilers fans would reject it, and the Habs fans would accept. Habs fans would reject Satan for Komisarek.

As a Sabres fan, I would definitely do it, since I proposed it, but I would take prospects/picks too.

keemo905 09-19-2003 11:35 AM

Briere, 26 in October, $1.6M
future consideration Boulton, 27, $.55M

for

Komisarek, 21, $1.13M


There is o way Mtl would do that trade... Komi is a fixture for many years to come. Rated on of the best prospect in the league...

No way

Bobs your uncle 09-19-2003 11:47 AM

Edmonton gets hosed in this proposal.

Maithz 09-19-2003 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LALALALALALAFONTAINE

Briere, 26 in October, $1.6M
future consideration Boulton, 27, $.55M

for

Komisarek, 21, $1.13M




is this a joke ?

Vyse64 09-19-2003 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob's your uncle ...
Edmonton gets hosed in this proposal.

when I first saw it i thought so too, but after thinking about it, I was just under-rating Connolly and Noronen so much, I didn't see their value

Connelly could be the that good sized centre the oilers been looking for (listed 6-1 182 on tsn.ca) and he is still only young at 22 or 23 and we get a younger top 4 defensemen in McKee, and a potential future starter in Noronen

very good deal :handclap:

Blackshad 09-19-2003 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by officeglen
The fans in the upper reaches of the Bell Canada Centre (Centre de Cloche Quebec).

"Hey they look like ants way down there."

"They are ants."

"Yes, but very fast ants."

hahahaha :yo:

Larry Fisher 09-19-2003 12:21 PM

Comrie and Smith

for

McKee, Connally, and Norenon

And proposed by a Sabres fan never the less....how should i say this,

DONE AND DONE

if your willing to go Comrie, Moreau, Smith for McKee, Connally, Afinogenov, and Norenon well then count me in!!!


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