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Tuckerw68 09-06-2012 01:51 PM

Bruins sign Malcolm Subban
 
3 year elc according to Naoko Funayama on twitter

https://twitter.com/NaokoFunayama

Dellstrom 09-06-2012 01:54 PM

Wow... Early for a guy who's likely going to take a long time to develop, let alone make the team.

Interesting, though. Good to have him locked up for a while. No chance for him to make the team this year, or even next, I'd guess. Unless we have a surprise on our hands. Most likely the former, though. :laugh: He has the potential to be a terrific goalie but he's also in no way, shape, or form ready for the NHL.

Ih8theislanders 09-06-2012 01:55 PM

Kind of a head scratcher for me. Not a bad thing really, just a little odd.

VinnyC 09-06-2012 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucic (Post 54133663)
Wow... Early for a guy who's likely going to take a long time to develop, let alone make the team.

Interesting, though. Good to have him locked up for a while. No chance for him to make the team this year, or even next, I'd guess.

Yeah, I think he's at least a whole ELC removed from the NHL. But Chiarelli knows best I guess.

Brodeur 09-06-2012 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucic (Post 54133663)
Wow... Early for a guy who's likely going to take a long time to develop, let alone make the team.

Interesting, though. Good to have him locked up for a while. No chance for him to make the team this year, or even next, I'd guess.

No harm in signing him now. Subban (and/or his agents) probably wanted to get a 3 year ELC now, rather than gamble that the next CBA will have a 4 or 5 year ELC. This is why we're seeing a bunch of 2012 picks being signed more quickly than in years past. The contract will slide when Subban plays out his junior eligibility anyways.

Shrimper 09-06-2012 02:00 PM

Do they see a spot being free due to Thomas leaving?

Raask number 1?

gangstazz 09-06-2012 02:07 PM

Khudobin will have this spot for sure

Dellstrom 09-06-2012 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shrimper (Post 54133809)
Do they see a spot being free due to Thomas leaving?

Raask number 1?

Rask
Khudobin
Svedberg in Providence.
Hutchinson if things really get ****ed up.

He won't play this year, the next, and probably more. Pretty much 100% sure... And not because of a lockout.

candyman82 09-06-2012 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shrimper (Post 54133809)
Do they see a spot being free due to Thomas leaving?

Raask number 1?

I would imagine that he is probably 5th on the depth chart

bigbadbruins1 09-06-2012 02:10 PM

I think this is just preemptive with a new CBA looming.
either that or they may think that Khudobin either wont make the backup grade or will split after this year via UFA. But overall its not a bad thing nor is it a good thing.

caley 09-06-2012 02:11 PM

So, of this past June's first round, only

08. Derrick Pouliot, PIT
09. Jacob Trouba, WPG
10. Slater Koekkoek, TBL
17. Tomas Hertl, SJS
18. Teuvo Teravainen, CHI
19. Andrei Vasilevski, TBL
21. Mark Jankowski, CGY
22. Olli Maatta, PIT
23. Mike Matheson, FLA
25. Jordan Schmaltz, STL
27. Henrik Samuelsson, PHX
28. Brady Skjei, NYR

remain unsigned.

So far,
001. Nail Yakupov, EDM
002. Ryan Murray, CBJ
003. Alex Galchenyuk, MTL
004. Griffin Reinhart, NYI
005. Morgan Rielly, TOR
006. Hampus Lindholm, AN
007. Matt Dumba, MIN
011. Filip Forsberg, WAS
012. Mikhaeil Grigorenko, BUF
013. Radek Faksa, DAL
014. Zemgus Girgensons, BUF
015. Cody Ceci, OTT
016. Tom Wilson, WAS
020. Scott Laughton, PHI
024. Malcolm Subban, BOS
026. Brendan Gaunce, VAN
029. Stefan Matteau, NJD
030. Tanner Pearson, LAK
041. Mitchell Heard, COL
043. Ludvig Bystrom, DAL
049. Martin Frk, DET
057. Alexandre Mallet, VAN
058. Jordan Martinook, PHX
060. Damon Severson, NJD
087. Frederik Andersen, ANA
121. Nikolay Prokhorkin, LAK
have all signed NHL contracts (#203. Sergei Kostenko, WAS has signed an AHL contract with Hershey). That's 26 players signing NHL deals within three months of the draft. Amazing!

CallADocPlease 09-06-2012 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by caley (Post 54134101)
So, of this past June's first round, only

08. Derrick Pouliot, PIT
09. Jacob Trouba, WPG
10. Slater Koekkoek, TBL
17. Tomas Hertl, SJS
18. Teuvo Teravainen, CHI
19. Andrei Vasilevski, TBL
21. Mark Jankowski, CGY
22. Olli Maatta, PIT
23. Mike Matheson, FLA
25. Jordan Schmaltz, STL
27. Henrik Samuelsson, PHX
28. Brady Skjei, NYR

remain unsigned.

So far,
001. Nail Yakupov, EDM
002. Ryan Murray, CBJ
003. Alex Galchenyuk, MTL
004. Griffin Reinhart, NYI
005. Morgan Rielly, TOR
006. Hampus Lindholm, AN
007. Matt Dumba, MIN
011. Filip Forsberg, WAS
012. Mikhaeil Grigorenko, BUF
013. Radek Faksa, DAL
014. Zemgus Girgensons, BUF
015. Cody Ceci, OTT
016. Tom Wilson, WAS
020. Scott Laughton, PHI
024. Malcolm Subban, BOS
026. Brendan Gaunce, VAN
029. Stefan Matteau, NJD
030. Tanner Pearson, LAK
041. Mitchell Heard, COL
043. Ludvig Bystrom, DAL
049. Martin Frk, DET
057. Alexandre Mallet, VAN
058. Jordan Martinook, PHX
060. Damon Severson, NJD
087. Frederik Andersen, ANA
121. Nikolay Prokhorkin, LAK
have all signed NHL contracts (#203. Sergei Kostenko, WAS has signed an AHL contract with Hershey). That's 26 players signing NHL deals within three months of the draft. Amazing!

I know that Trouba won't be signing because he is in college and one of their restrictions is that he not have a contract with a professional team.

candyman82 09-06-2012 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CallADocPlease (Post 54134149)
I know that Trouba won't be signing because he is in college and one of their restrictions is that he not have a contract with a professional team.

Skjei, Jankowski, Schmaltz, and Matheson are also going the NCAA route

DohBruins 09-06-2012 02:19 PM

IMO it was kind of dumb to sign him this early. They could have still got compensation out of him if they didn't sign him, and he ended up busting.

King Woodballs 09-06-2012 02:22 PM

Maybe he signed in case the elc deals change
Like to 4 or 5 years

Who knows what the cba brings

Just my opinion

Anksun 09-06-2012 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryan02190 (Post 54134323)
IMO it was kind of dumb to sign him this early. They could have still got compensation out of him if they didn't sign him, and he ended up busting.

Unless i'm mistaken, the team actually have to makes a contract offer and the player have to turn it down for any compensation to be acquired.

nhlfan9191 09-06-2012 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Woodballs (Post 54134413)
Maybe he signed in case the elc deals change
Like to 4 or 5 years

Who knows what the cba brings

Just my opinion

Wouldn't a 4-5 year elc be more of a reason to wait?

BronxBruin 09-06-2012 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nhlfan9191 (Post 54144065)
Wouldn't a 4-5 year elc be more of a reason to wait?

Certainly not from the player's perspective when ELCs have a strict cap on how much they can pay out and rely heavily on bonuses being achieved.

Do you think Taylor Hall would've preferred making a base of $900,000 with the chance to hit $3.75MM if he plays really well for 5 years -- or that for 3 years followed by a long term $6MM per year deal?

Of course this assumes that ELCs generally stay the same under the new CBA.

VinnyC 09-06-2012 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BronxBruin (Post 54146109)
Certainly not from the player's perspective when ELCs have a strict cap on how much they can pay out and rely heavily on bonuses being achieved.

Do you think Taylor Hall would've preferred making a base of $900,000 with the chance to hit $3.75MM if he plays really well for 5 years -- or that for 3 years followed by a long term $6MM per year deal?

Of course this assumes that ELCs generally stay the same under the new CBA.

True that Subban would've every reason to sign ASAP, but not the Bruins. They have his rights so it's not like he has any leverage in the situation. As a matter of fact, it's pretty much the same thing for the 2012 1st rounders who signed this off-season who aren't projected to make the big show soon. I just don't understand why GM's are handing out the ELC's, goodwill maybe?

Suntouchable13 09-06-2012 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VinnyC (Post 54146489)
True that Subban would've every reason to sign ASAP, but not the Bruins. They have his rights so it's not like he has any leverage in the situation. As a matter of fact, it's pretty much the same thing for the 2012 1st rounders who signed this off-season who aren't projected to make the big show soon. I just don't understand why GM's are handing out the ELC's, goodwill maybe?

How long do teams have to sign their newly drafted players to ELCs? Why is this considered early? He is not ready for the NHL but if they wouldn't have signed him, wouldn't they lose him?

Dellstrom 09-07-2012 06:10 AM

Kirk Luedeke ‏@kluedeke29

OK- 1 more time- Subban's ELC doesn't count this yr b/c he's in the OHL. But, if he plays in AHL next yr that will toll 1st of 3-yr ELC

Early birthday, he can play in the AHL next year.


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