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coldsteelonice84 09-11-2012 01:23 PM

Chicago-Anaheim
 
Chicago
Ryan Getzlaf

Anaheim
Nick Leddy
Teuvo Teravainen

With Rozsival getting signed, someone is on the move.

Blackhawkswincup 09-11-2012 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coldsteelonice84 (Post 54245471)
Chicago
Ryan Getzlaf

Anaheim
Nick Leddy
Teuvo Teravainen

With Rosival getting signed, someone is on the move.

Ducks have Fowler so no need for Leddy really ,,, And they would want more then a young dman and good (Not great) prospect

Also Hawks would have to give Getzlaf a big contract extension which would be difficult with likely cuts in cap and Hawks already having so many big contracts

Getting Getzlaf and signing him to big longterm deal puts Hawks right back into caphell going forward

Jack de la Hoya 09-11-2012 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by coldsteelonice84 (Post 54245471)
With Rosival getting signed, someone is on the move.

Setting aside your proposal, what are Chicago's needs? Anything of interest on the Flyers? They could use a young, PMD, if the price was right.

Gibson Les Palms 09-11-2012 01:27 PM

Not a chance.

coldsteelonice84 09-11-2012 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeh82 (Post 54245561)
Setting aside your proposal, what are Chicago's needs? Anything of interest on the Flyers? They could use a young, PMD, if the price was right.

It would have to be Dan Briere.

Our needs are 2C / G

SLAPSHOT723 09-11-2012 01:29 PM

Doesn't seem good for either team.

Zubrus Coffee Maker 09-11-2012 01:29 PM

ouch, the ducks bite hard. one difficult season doesn't change the way the Ducks see their captain. another year or mediocrity however and Getzlaf may become available.

RedBaronIndian 09-11-2012 01:31 PM

Not really a fair trade for the Ducks.

deytookerjaabs 09-11-2012 01:32 PM

No way the Ducks do this.

Jack de la Hoya 09-11-2012 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by coldsteelonice84 (Post 54245637)
It would have to be Dan Briere.

Our needs are 2C / G

Setting aside value, he has a NMC and an tricky family situation, so I doubt he would move.

What about Matt Read--a natural center converted to wing, relatively cheap, and strong two-way play?

coldsteelonice84 09-11-2012 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeh82 (Post 54245739)
Setting aside value, he has a NMC and an tricky family situation, so I doubt he would move.

What about Matt Read--a natural center converted to wing, relatively cheap, and strong two-way play?

Maybe for Hammer. Leddy's upside is too high.

duxfan8 09-11-2012 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coldsteelonice84 (Post 54245471)
Chicago
Ryan Getzlaf

Anaheim
Nick Leddy
Teuvo Teravainen

With Rozsival getting signed, someone is on the move.

You're kidding, right? :help: :shakehead

Jack de la Hoya 09-11-2012 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by coldsteelonice84 (Post 54245795)
Maybe for Hammer. Leddy's upside is too high.

Hjalmarsson isn't the kind of defenseman the Flyers need.

Ah well, it was worth a try.

Suddenly7 09-11-2012 01:55 PM

I don't think it benefits the Ducks enough to get the deal done. Since Getzlaf is the major player in this trade Chicago sadly has to match his talent level or overpay in prospects. Plus he has always had a good relationships with the Ducks and fan base. So the Ducks are less likely to trade since he is regarded as one of our best players.

coldsteelonice84 09-11-2012 01:57 PM

I mean....he has one year left....what else would you want, that's our two best young guys according to most sources.

Avs44 09-11-2012 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by coldsteelonice84 (Post 54246333)
I mean....he has one year left....what else would you want, that's our two best young guys according to most sources.

Unless they know for a fact Getzlaf won't re-sign, I don't see why they would consider trading him for futures/young players that don't fill a need.

coldsteelonice84 09-11-2012 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avs44 (Post 54246375)
Unless they know for a fact Getzlaf won't re-sign, I don't see why they would consider trading him for futures/young players that don't fill a need.

I thought Anaheim was one of the teams losing money every year that is forcing the lockout?

Suddenly7 09-11-2012 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coldsteelonice84 (Post 54246447)
I thought Anaheim was one of the teams losing money every year that is forcing the lockout?

Yup, that is a true statement kind of. The Ducks are somewhat profitable since the lockout. The last couple years they have been losing money. The thing is though is we aren't hurting for cash.

Bubba88 09-11-2012 02:34 PM

Ducks can do better than that

DuckJet 09-11-2012 03:12 PM

Terrible. Ducks would start with Keith if anything and add quite a few pieces.

c4rcy 09-11-2012 03:39 PM

This is a pretty insulting trade offer dude.

I don't think you'd like it if we offered:

Holland + Sbisa

for Toews

coldsteelonice84 09-11-2012 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by c4rcy (Post 54249155)
This is a pretty insulting trade offer dude.

I don't think you'd like it if we offered:

Holland + Sbisa

for Toews

No, but I wouldn't call Fowler and Etem for Kane insulting, which would be closer to an equivalent. I'd call it a decent offer.

Leafs For Life* 09-11-2012 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DuckJet (Post 54248445)
Terrible. Ducks would start with Keith if anything and add quite a few pieces.

Na, they're equal. at least.

DuckJet 09-11-2012 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leaffan16 (Post 54249287)
Na, they're equal. at least.

Doesn't matter. OP's trade creates a hole and then doesn't fill it.


Quote:

Originally Posted by coldsteelonice84 (Post 54249261)
No, but I wouldn't call Fowler and Etem for Kane insulting, which would be closer to an equivalent. I'd call it a decent offer.

Well yeah. Etem and Fowler are better than Leddy and TT (and I'm not being a homer. I'm a fan of the Hawks as well.)

Not only that but Getzlaf when he's on his game >> Kane.

Rivet52 09-11-2012 06:30 PM

Ducks say no. First, the Ducks are weakest down the middle, so trading a center, especially their first line center and one of their best players, makes no sense. Second, Anaheim seems to want to compete and is not rebuilding. They won't trade their first line center for a good young puck-mover (already have Fowler anyway) and a really good prospect. That creates an even bigger hole at center and literally sends the message that the team doesn't want to be competitive this year. Saku Koivu would be their best center. Like I said, the center depth would be atrocious, and I love Koivu, but he's not Koivu of years past.

We don't need Getzlaf anyway. Sure, he's a great player and would be a great one two with Toews, but he'd command a TON of money to re-sign and Chicago simply couldn't afford to do that.

Value's not good for the Ducks and they have no reason to do it. The Hawks should target someone cheaper than Getzlaf, so they stay away too.


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