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Sokil 09-18-2012 10:51 AM

Ukrainian prospects Thread
 
Might be good to get a list of all Uke prospects together.
Format: Age - Name - (Birth city) - Team city
2012-13
MHL:
Vladislav Kutsevich - (Kyiv) - Kazan

Other:
Olexander Polyanychka - (Lviv) - Czech league?

2013-14 (Confirmed roster spots)

KHL:
18 - Egor Morozov - (Tolyiatti, Russia) - Donetsk
19 - Vladislav Shalimov - (Belovo, Russia) - Donetsk
21 - Yuri Silnitsky - (Tyumen, Russia) - Donetsk
21 - http://www.eliteprospects.com/layout/flags/9.gif Ignat Zemchenko - (Kyiv) - Cherepovets
21 - Dmytro Shvidenko - (Lubny) - Ugra
19 - Viktor Zakharov - (Kyiv) - Donetsk
23 - Maxym Kvitchenko - (Kyiv) - Donetsk
23 - Olexander Toryanik - (Kharkiv) - Donetsk

MHL (Young Guard):
17 - F: Kyrylo Bondarenko - (Kyiv) - Donetsk
17 - G: Serhiy Pisarenko - (Odessa) - Donetsk
17 - D: Vitaliy Andreykiv - (Lviv) - Donetsk
18 - G: Mikhail Shevchuk - (Kharkiv) - Donetsk
18 - Danylo Skripets - (Dnipropetrovsk) - Donetsk
19 - Maxim Martyshko - (Kharkiv) - Donetsk
20 - Ruslan Romashchenko - (Kharkiv) - Donetsk
20 - Ivan Savchenko - (Kharkiv) - Donetsk

MHL:
19 - http://www.eliteprospects.com/layout/flags/9.gif Nikita Lisov - (Zaporizhia) - CSKA
20 - http://www.eliteprospects.com/layout/flags/9.gif Vladislav Vorobiev - (Kyiv) - Tyumen

Canadian Hockey League:
18 - http://www.eliteprospects.com/layout/flags/9.gif Vladislav Lysenko - (Kyiv) - Sherbrooke (QMJHL)
19 - Pavlo Padakin - (Kyiv) - Calgary (WHL)

Sweden:
17 - http://www.eliteprospects.com/layout/flags/1.gif Dmytro Timashov - (Kirovhrad) - MODO J20

Germany:
16 - Ulib-Gleb Berezovskyy - (Kyiv) - Jungadler Mannheim U18

RESOURCES:
Young Guard (Donetsk, MHL) team stats
Young Guard active roster
Ukrainian prospects abroad (Europe)
Ukrainian prospects abroad (North America)

ozo 09-18-2012 11:37 AM

It's worth keeping eye on Kirill Bondarenko who is on youth ranks of Traktor and made his U18 NT debut last spring as a sixteen year old. His stats on a very good Traktor team aren't that impressive, but at very least it's still nice to see that he has committed to Ukraine nice and early.

ozo 09-18-2012 11:55 AM

Then there's also Olexander Polyanychka, who, at least according to his parents, is eligible to play for Ukraine. If I remember it correctly he also was between U18 candidates last spring (though with a wrongly listed first name), but was cut before tournament.

smitty10 09-23-2012 12:07 AM

Just an update on Pavlo Padakin after his first 2 games with the Calgary Hitmen of the WHL:

2gp 0g 1a 1p 2PIM -1

Not bad. Nice to see him sticking with the team so far.

smitty10 10-19-2012 11:32 PM

An update on Pavlo Padakin of the Calgary Hitmen:

9gp 1g 3a 4pts +2 4PIM

Not bad numbers for a rookie. Hopefully he can finish the season around 40 points. He's a good prospect and will likely play in the KHL one day, unless he goes to the ECHL/AHL upon CHL graduation.

ozo 12-24-2012 08:56 PM

Unfortunately doesn't look like Donbass-98 kids are as good as they were touted. While being the best in Ukraine, they are being humbled week in week out in Moscow championship. You know you are in trouble when your best player is underage kid from Moldova :)

JTPoni23 12-29-2012 12:39 PM

Is anyone able to shed some light on Lysenko? He played for Russia last year in the U17s, is he still affiliated with Ukrainian hockey? Thanks in advance.

ozo 12-30-2012 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JTPoni23 (Post 56896767)
Is anyone able to shed some light on Lysenko? He played for Russia last year in the U17s, is he still affiliated with Ukrainian hockey? Thanks in advance.

You kinda answered your own question, no? But technically it doesn't bind him to Russian programme just yet, but so wouldn't even a full IIHF tournament.

Sokil 05-30-2013 12:57 PM

well this crop sucked

Sokil 05-31-2013 03:36 PM

Olexander Toryanik
http://www.eliteprospects.com/player...gueid=&season=

tore up the PHL last year, only 23, runs **** on the national team

vorky 05-31-2013 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JTPoni23 (Post 56896767)
Is anyone able to shed some light on Lysenko? He played for Russia last year in the U17s, is he still affiliated with Ukrainian hockey? Thanks in advance.

Did no he play for RUS U18 in Sochi?

smitty10 05-31-2013 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sokil (Post 66841459)
Olexander Toryanik
http://www.eliteprospects.com/player...gueid=&season=

tore up the PHL last year, only 23, runs **** on the national team

Yeah Toryanik seems to be the best Ukrainian prospect out there. I wouldn't be surprised to see him in the KHL next season.

Sokil 05-31-2013 10:45 PM

Padakin was 4th on the Hitmen for goals, I'll take that as a small victory. Maybe he develops further and turns into a decent player in Europe? Or wind up like Kvitchenko...

ozo 06-01-2013 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sokil (Post 66853631)
Padakin was 4th on the Hitmen for goals, I'll take that as a small victory. Maybe he develops further and turns into a decent player in Europe? Or wind up like Kvitchenko...

What has Kvitchenko done wrong in your eyes? To me he still looks superiour to Padakin by a fair margin. This was Kvitchenko's first pro season, hard to expect him being a real player on KHL stage anyway. if Voskresensk would revive their VHL team, he would be a top6 contributor for them easily.

Sokil 06-01-2013 09:16 AM

At 23, I expected more than 1 assist in 25 games.

malkinfan 06-04-2013 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sokil (Post 66860963)
At 23, I expected more than 1 assist in 25 games.

Mmm not from the 4th line. This year Donbass looks stacked again up front so the chance of him seeing pp time or even time on the 3rd line seems unlikely. I would project around 5 points for him unless he can battle his way up the depth chart and/or if injuries happen.

smitty10 06-04-2013 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozo (Post 66859487)
What has Kvitchenko done wrong in your eyes? To me he still looks superiour to Padakin by a fair margin. This was Kvitchenko's first pro season, hard to expect him being a real player on KHL stage anyway. if Voskresensk would revive their VHL team, he would be a top6 contributor for them easily.

I like what I've seen from Kvitchenko in the few games I saw him play during the NHL lockout. I think with increased ice time he could eventually become a solid 3rd line contributor in the KHL. Players from weaker countries tend to develop at a slower pace. I think he'll hit his stride.

Sokil 06-04-2013 10:08 PM

well realistically, 3rd line KHL is like....ECHL quality, right?

smitty10 06-05-2013 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sokil (Post 67029121)
well realistically, 3rd line KHL is like....ECHL quality, right?

Probably closer to top 6 in the AHL. Not great, but still good for Ukrainian hockey.

ozo 06-05-2013 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sokil (Post 67029121)
well realistically, 3rd line KHL is like....ECHL quality, right?

Quote:

Originally Posted by smitty10 (Post 67067661)
Probably closer to top 6 in the AHL. Not great, but still good for Ukrainian hockey.

I think it's not wise to make such generalizations about the strength of leagues. Not only leagues need a bit different skillset to succeed in them, but also because KHL is league of great extremes - one team's leader is mere scrub on another roster.

Anyway Kvitchenko could of used full season of a lesser pro league than KHL. Two shifts per period (in every second game) is no good for a player who kinda projects as top six player (not necessarily a KHL top six player) in future.

smitty10 06-05-2013 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozo (Post 67072033)
I think it's not wise to make such generalizations about the strength of leagues. Not only leagues need a bit different skillset to succeed in them, but also because KHL is league of great extremes - one team's leader is mere scrub on another roster.

Anyway Kvitchenko could of used full season of a lesser pro league than KHL. Two shifts per period (in every second game) is no good for a player who kinda projects as top six player (not necessarily a KHL top six player) in future.

That's true, but it probably wouldn't do him any good to play in the PHL. I think he'd be best suited for first line duty in the VHL, but Donbass doesn't have an affiliate.

ozo 06-05-2013 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smitty10 (Post 67073431)
it probably wouldn't do him any good to play in the PHL. I think he'd be best suited for first line duty in the VHL, but Donbass doesn't have an affiliate.

I agree, not the best situation for his development.

smitty10 06-06-2013 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sokil (Post 54421689)
Might be good to get a list of all Uke prospects together.
2012-13
KHL:
Ignat Zemchenko - (Kyiv) - Cherepovets (41-6-4-10)

Canadian Hockey League:
Pavlo Padakin - (Kyiv) - Calgary (WHL) (70-22-16-38)
Vladislav Lysenko - (Kyiv) - Sherbrooke (QMJHL) (66-7-9-16)

MHL:
Vladislav Kutsevich - (Kyiv) - Kazan
Danylo Skripets - (Dnipropetrovsk) - Berdsk
Nikita Lisov - (Zaporizhia) - CSKA

PHL:
Olexander Toryanik - (Kharkiv) - Berkut
Ruslan Romashchenko Kompanion
Ivan Savchenko - (Kharkiv) - Kharkiv\

Other:
Olexander Polyanychka - (Lviv) - Czech league?
Kirill Bondarenko - Traktor youth (EP)

2013-14 (Confirmed roster spots)

KHL:
Maxym Kvitchenko - (Kyiv) - Donetsk

MHL:
Maxim Martyshko - (Kharkiv) - Donetsk
Viktor Zakharov - (Kyiv) - Donetsk
G: Mikhail Shevchuk - (Kharkiv) - Donetsk

A couple more additions to Donetsk (MHL) for 2013/14; according to Elite Prospects:

G Pavlo Yachnyk
F Yuri Petrangovsky
F Ruslan Romashenko

Hopefully there will be more Ukrainian additions to the team and that some will make big contributions to the team.

Sokil 06-07-2013 01:32 PM

yeah i left off ones i didnt figure were very notable / any upside

smitty10 06-07-2013 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sokil (Post 67158249)
yeah i left off ones i didnt figure were very notable / any upside

Petrangovsky scored more than any junior player in the PHL and played in the WC with the men's National Team as an 18 year old. He seems to have pretty good upside.


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