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Henkka 09-19-2012 09:21 AM

Red Wings player destinations during the Lockout
 
I thought we should have a topic for our guys, who are going where, and to make it easier for everyone to follow their seasons.

So far confirmed destinations:

C Henrik Zetterberg --> EV Zug, NLA Switzerland
C Pavel Datsyuk ---> ZSKA Moscow, KHL
F Valtteri Filppula ---> Jokerit Helsinki, SM-Liiga
W Gustav Nyquist ---> Grand Rapids Griffins, AHL
W Jan Mursak ---> Telemach Olimpija Ljubljana, Austrian League
W Damien Brunner ---> EV Zug, NLA Switzerland (should joins the Griffins, when the AHL starts)
W Tomas Tatar ---> SHK 37 Piestany, Slovak Extraliga
W Drew Miller ---> Braehead Clan, English Elite Ice Hockey League.
C Cory Emmerton ---> SaiPa Lappeenranta, SM-Liiga Finland

D Kyle Quincey ---> Denver Cutthroats, CHL
D Jonathan Ericsson ---> Vita Hästen, Sweden 4th tier
D Brendan Smith ---> Grand Rapids Griffins, AHL
D Jakub Kindl ---> HC Pardubice, Czech Extraliga

My own speculations:

C Henrik Zetterberg, Timrå, Elitserien (only if the whole season is abandoned)
W Johan Franzen, Linköping?, Elitserien (his old team in Elitserien, and only possible if the whole season is abandoned)
W Mikael Samuelsson, Södertälje?, Allsvenskan (Södertälje is his junior club and played there during the last lockout. The team is at Swedish 2nd level, so there's no limits for short-stinted NHL players))
W Dan Cleary, Mora IK?, Allsvenskan (his team during the last lockout. Also at Swedish 2nd level, joining Kopitar brothers?)
C Darren Helm, ??? (would fit well to SM-Liiga)
W Todd Bertuzzi, ??? (I'd definitely like to see him in SM-Liiga)
W Jordin Tootoo, ??? (will be a fan favourite and cult player anywhere he goes, I guarantee it.)
F Justin Abdelkader, ??? (would fit well to SM-Liiga like Helm)
W Patrick Eaves, Jokerit? (joins Jokerit at SM-Liiga to play with his brother Ben Eaves. Ironically, both guys have had injuries at past and Ben Eaves is currently injured. I've started thinking they really have some genetic injury proneness. :P)
W Drew Miller, ??? (would be a great worker for SM-Liiga level)
C Cory Emmerton, ??? (could be nice pickup to play a playmaker role, not a defensive role like at Wings)

D Niklas Kronwall, Djurgården?, Allsvenskan (his junior-team is currently at Swedish 2nd level, should be his obvious choise)
D Kyle Quincey, ??? (good overall pickup for any team)
D Ian White, ??? (I think White would blossom at Europe, great overall defeceman here)
D Carlo Colaiacovo, ??? (when looking the history of Colaiacovo, they have been like brothers with White at Toronto years. Somebody should hire them as a package to ease their becoming NHL-pairing "growing pains".)

G Jimmy Howard, ??? (superb pickup for any team, just hope he will rehab his groin and takes this extra break just as a break for his body)
G Jonas Gustavsson, Elitserien? (his older teams are at Elitserien, so maybe he looks somewhere to Allsvenskan level)

ALF AmericanLionsFan 09-19-2012 09:33 AM

Looks like Pavel has signed with CSKA.

ChadS 09-19-2012 09:34 AM

Dmitry Chesnokov reporting that Datsyuk has signed with CSKA Moscow. Same team as Radulov and Wings prospect Alexei Marchenko. Semin and Bryzgalov have been also rumoured to join CSKA.

Frk It 09-19-2012 10:34 AM

thread has been done, and not too long ago...

Mods merge with this > http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh....php?t=1260789

SoupNazi 09-19-2012 10:50 AM

Already

http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh....php?t=1260789

Mods: please merge.

Henkka 09-19-2012 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoupNazi (Post 54444917)

I'd rather keep this topic without merging, because nobody is updating that older topic in the 1st post, where everybody could see the current situation.

tfong 09-19-2012 05:20 PM

Oh yummy, Ovie and Dats??? He Gould hint for our to request trade to wings after :)

The Zetterberg Era 09-19-2012 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tfong (Post 54454535)
Oh yummy, Ovie and Dats??? He Gould hint for our to request trade to wings after :)

Playing on different teams

Ovie is on Dynamo
Datsyuk on CSKA

He can start mentoring Marchenko though.

RedWingsNow* 09-19-2012 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Henkka (Post 54445183)
I'd rather keep this topic without merging, because nobody is updating that older topic in the 1st post, where everybody could see the current situation.

I never understand why people want mods to "merge threads"
Who cares? Having two threads on the same topic knocks a week old thread off the front page.

ALF AmericanLionsFan 09-19-2012 06:29 PM

Which team is Tatar skating for until GR starts? In Slovakian Domestic League or the new Slovak KHL team?

Henkka 09-19-2012 07:07 PM

Dukla Trencin is the rumoured team for Tatar. Slovan Bratislava plays at KHL.

The Zetterberg Era 09-19-2012 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Henkka (Post 54457023)
Dukla Trencin is the rumoured team for Tatar. Slovan Bratislava plays at KHL.

His KHL rights are owned by SKA Saint Petersburg anyway, he was a first round draft pick in the KHL of them. So I don't think he could just pick Slovan even if he wanted to. The Wings said they aren't releasing him to the KHL, although Tatar did hint that is where he would like to play in the event of a lookout.

I honestly think the overripe process has completely worn thin with Tatar. I really worry next year when his contract is up and he is out of options he won't care that the roster spot is finally offered and jet over to Russia anyway. He seems to have become increasingly frustrated with the process. You can say earn more, but he has improved a lot as a player and really should be given a chance. I understand his frustration and I hope it doesn't bite the Wings.

kap0r 09-19-2012 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedWings19405 (Post 54457797)
His KHL rights are owned by SKA Saint Petersburg anyway, he was a first round draft pick in the KHL of them. So I don't think he could just pick Slovan even if he wanted to. The Wings said they aren't releasing him to the KHL, although Tatar did hint that is where he would like to play in the event of a lookout.

I honestly think the overripe process has completely worn thin with Tatar. I really worry next year when his contract is up and he is out of options he won't care that the roster spot is finally offered and jet over to Russia anyway. He seems to have become increasingly frustrated with the process. You can say earn more, but he has improved a lot as a player and really should be given a chance. I understand his frustration and I hope it doesn't bite the Wings.


Tatar explicitly said in the interview I linked in the prospects thread, that he`s cleared to play either in Slovan or Trencin from the RedWings until the 10th of October.
Since SKA filled its roster with Kovalchuk & Tarasenko, I`d expect a similar situation as with Jaro Janus (G, Tampa Bay, rights held by Lokomotiv Yaroslavl) - he`ll be "loaned" for a season/couple of weeks by SKA, since he`s no use for them now.
I mean he even trained with the guys from Slovan during this summer.

http://translate.google.com/translat...onu%2F&act=url

Regarding the second part of your post, here`s another interview taken during the summer, where he adresses his issues with being held in AHL - roughly translated, he expects to be called up for couple of games this year and would be glad to get a shot with the Red Wings the next year.
.
AND he refused a lucrative contract with SKA after the IIHF World champs ;)

He`s patient and glad to be a part of the organization, don`t worry ;)

The Zetterberg Era 09-19-2012 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kap0r (Post 54458861)
Tatar explicitly said in the interview I linked in the prospects thread, that he`s cleared to play either in Slovan or Trencin from the RedWings until the 10th of October.
Since SKA filled its roster with Kovalchuk & Tarasenko, I`d expect a similar situation as with Jaro Janus (G, Tampa Bay, rights held by Lokomotiv Yaroslavl) - he`ll be "loaned" for a season/couple of weeks by SKA, since he`s no use for them now.
I mean he even trained with the guys from Slovan during this summer.

http://translate.google.com/translat...onu%2F&act=url

Regarding the second part of your post, here`s another interview taken during the summer, where he adresses his issues with being held in AHL - roughly translated, he expects to be called up for couple of games this year and would be glad to get a shot with the Red Wings the next year.
.
AND he refused a lucrative contract with SKA after the IIHF World champs ;)

He`s patient and glad to be a part of the organization, don`t worry ;)

Wow the translator had some problems with that at parts. Thanks for the update.

He does bring up once again that he thinks he has some out in his contract that nobody else thinks exists in the event of a lockout. It was a different interview when doing a advertising thing that brought out my initial concern and his comments here have something similar.

He does clearly still want to stay in the NHL track, but I wonder what another season of being stuck in Grand Rapids is going to do. Lets be honest with the Wings forward numbers even if the lockout is averted he is going to have a hard time getting up.

I really like the way Tatar has improved, I think he and Nyquist could have huge years this year in Grand Rapids. They are both NHL ready in my opinion, I am expecting great things.

Ivanko 09-20-2012 05:25 AM

News on Tatar are that he will play in the Slovak extraliga (so no Slovan Bratislava), but it will not be Dukla Trencin, but another team in the extraliga - they keep it secret to surprise the fans.

here is a link to the Slovak article: http://sport.sme.sk/c/6539623/tatar-...lubu-taji.html

hockeyisforeveryone 09-20-2012 07:15 AM

Does anyone know if Pavel will start in today's game with CSKA?

I got a link for a very good Czech stream on the main board (https://www.tipsport.cz/tv )
but they aren't showing the game today. Anyone got another link to watch the Datsyuk?

Man at times like this I really appreciate having our friends in Europe. You guys are the only true winnners in this lockout.

ModryJazyk 09-20-2012 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ivanko (Post 54465441)
News on Tatar are that he will play in the Slovak extraliga (so no Slovan Bratislava), but it will not be Dukla Trencin, but another team in the extraliga - they keep it secret to surprise the fans.

here is a link to the Slovak article: http://sport.sme.sk/c/6539623/tatar-...lubu-taji.html

SHK 37 Piestany

alexhockey 09-20-2012 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hockeyisforeveryone (Post 54466059)
Does anyone know if Pavel will start in today's game with CSKA?

No. Not today..

joe89 09-20-2012 10:10 AM

http://www.expressen.se/sport/hockey...klas-kronwall/

Just like Z, it looks like Kronwall won't go anywhere before christmas. Per his agent.

Juneemoon 09-20-2012 11:16 AM

Datsyuk practicing with CSKA with the Red Wings logo taped over on his pants...

http://cska-hockey.ru/contents/photo...1348145305.jpg

hockeyisforeveryone 09-20-2012 12:00 PM

Jiri Hudler is playing live right now!!!!!

http://www.laola1.tv/en/int/ice-hock...451-95390.html

mindfly 09-21-2012 08:51 AM

Swedish Elite League is now open for business again (nhl players can play there)

theodred 09-21-2012 09:55 AM

update about Brunner
 
Unfortunately Brunner likely wont join GR. In this article he says that hell stay until the NHL Starts....
He also say he and the Management found it the Best Solution....

http://slapshot.ch.sportalsports.com...420800000.html

crashman 09-21-2012 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theodred (Post 54490323)
Unfortunately Brunner likely wont join GR. In this article he says that hell stay until the NHL Starts....
He also say he and the Management found it the Best Solution....

http://slapshot.ch.sportalsports.com...420800000.html

It will be interesting to watch him and Linus Omark on the same team. If Omark tears it up in that league and out-plays Brunner, then any excitement I had about Brunner goes out the window.

Henkka 09-21-2012 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theodred (Post 54490323)
Unfortunately Brunner likely wont join GR. In this article he says that hell stay until the NHL Starts....
He also say he and the Management found it the Best Solution....

http://slapshot.ch.sportalsports.com...420800000.html

Good things:
- Some of our prospects will get his TOP6-icetime at Griffins.

Bad things:
- Brunner will lose his AHL-possibility for smoother transition to North-American hockey.


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