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The Zetterberg Era 09-24-2012 04:57 AM

Detroit Red Wings Prospect #29
 
1.) Brendan Smith - D, 6'1" 198 lbs: Mimico, ON, CAN 72.73%
2.) Gustav Nyquist - RW/LW, 5'11" 185 lbs: Halmstad, SWE 68.75%
3.) Calle Järnkrok - C, 6'0" 183 lbs: Gävle, SWE 72.73%
4.) TomᚠTatar - LW/RW, 5'10" 186 lbs: Ilava, SVK 44.44%
5.) Tomas Jurco - RW, 6'2" 187 lbs: Kosice, SVK 65.85%
6.) Riley Sheahan - C, 6'2" 223 lbs: St. Catharines, ON, CAN 27.78%
7.) Teemu Pulkkinen - RW, 5'10" 198 lbs: Vantaa, FIN 35.92%
8.) Xavier Ouellet - D, 6'1" 190 lbs: Bayonne, FRA 45.24%
9.) Ryan Sproul - D, 6'3" 186 lbs: Mississauga, ON, CAN 45.98%
10.) Petr Mrázek - G, 6'2" 185 lbs: Ostrava, CZE 62.69%
11.) Martin Frk - RW, 6'0" 203 lbs: Bochov, CZE 34.41%
12.) Marek Tvrdoň - LW, 6'2" 218 lbs: Nitra, SVK 54.55%
13.) Nick Jensen - D, 6'0" 194 lbs: Rogers, MN, USA 35.53%
14.) Alexei Marchenko - D, 6'02'' 183 lbs: Moscow, RUS 39.02%
15.) Joakim Andersson - C, 6'2" 206 lbs: Munkedal, SWE 52.94%
16.) Mattias Bäckman - D, 6'2" 170 lbs: Linköping, SWE 40.00%
17.) Louis-Marc Aubry - C, 6'4" 205 lbs: Trois-Rivières, QC, CAN 33.87%
18.) Landon Ferraro - C, 6'0 174 lbs: Trail, BC, CAN 38.98%
19.) Adam Almqvist - D, 5'11, 174 lbs: Jönköping, SWE 37.50%
20.) Andreas Athanasiou - LW, 6'1" 181 lbs: Mississauga, ON, CAN 34.43%
21.) Alan Quine - C/LW, 5'11" 188 lbs: Belleville, ON, CAN 41.18%
22.) Brian Lashoff - D, 6'3" 212 lbs: Albany, NY, USA 31.48%
23.) Mitchell Callahan - RW, 6'0" 190 lbs: Whittier, CA, USA 43.18%
24.) Richard Nedomlel - D, 6'4" 225 lbs: Praha, CZE 60.00%
25.) Jake Paterson - G, 6'2" 183 lbs: Mississauga, ON, CAN 54.29%
26.) Max Nicastro - D, 6'3" 209 lbs: Thousand Oaks, CA, USA 28.89%
27.) Ben Marshall - D, 5'9" 179 lbs: St. Paul, MN, USA 34.48%
28.) Thomas McCollum - G, 6'2" 209 lbs: Amherst, NY, USA 25.00%

McCollum wins, Pare is the add

ProPAIN 09-24-2012 05:58 AM

Went with Coetzee. Impressed in the WHL, has gone through a slow start in the AHL, but he's got skill and skates well. At this point it's players who will never play in the NHL or prospects who just got drafted and it's too early to tell.

I can't vote for Bodin (a part from the size, I have no clue about him) or De Haas. Nestrasil has dropped way down in the rankings. He played for his country at Junior level, but he's struggling to make an impact even in the ECHL.

Hudon pretty much lost a year in his development with his personal issues and dropping out of college. He calls himself a powerforward, so maybe something happens on that front. Pare, Fournier, Parkes and Raedeke are career AHL-ers at this point.

ChadS 09-24-2012 06:39 AM

I think Parkes will grab a permanent spot in GR after a tough 1st pro season. He only just turned 21, has good physicality, a rh shot and has shown he can score.

The Nose 09-24-2012 09:44 AM

Its a toss up so went with Pare.

You have two Hudons on the poll btw

Frk It 09-24-2012 09:49 AM

Mckee isn't on this poll... and that's who I want to vote for.

WingsMike 09-24-2012 10:12 AM

^Same. Replace 1 Hudon with McKee

SoupNazi 09-24-2012 11:18 AM

Nestrasil

RedWingsNow* 09-24-2012 12:19 PM

Went with Nestrasil. Going to give him another year to get it right.

mindfly 09-24-2012 01:20 PM

Where is mckee ???????????????????????? :@

Frk It 09-24-2012 02:49 PM

Should probably end up re-doing this poll because I'm sure some votes that have been casted so far would have gone to Mckee if he had been on the ballot.

SoupNazi 09-24-2012 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frk It (Post 54557723)
Should probably end up re-doing this poll because I'm sure some votes that have been casted so far would have gone to Mckee if he had been on the ballot.

Or maybe they wouldn't have.

Frk It 09-24-2012 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoupNazi (Post 54558497)
Or maybe they wouldn't have.

just throwing it out there, no way to know for sure. I mean it is prospect #29 so guess we could just say screw it lol.

The Zetterberg Era 09-24-2012 03:41 PM

My bad it is McKee that I left out, I don't know how to edit the poll. So really don't know how to fix it without Mod help.

sarcastro 09-24-2012 09:40 PM

Fixed the poll.

If we get enough people saying they wanted McKee I'll fix it further, but with Bodin at 8 I really don't think McKee was going to win anyway.

Voted for De Haas, again. I think I've only voted for like 5 different players because my guys keep getting passed over for 8 rounds.

jaster 09-24-2012 10:23 PM

Sliiiiiiiim pickings at this point. Really don't have much hope at all for anyone left, so I went with the Hakan pick.

Add Pearce!

P U L L H A R D 09-25-2012 09:46 AM

Who else voted Hudon?!

Rzombo4 prez 09-25-2012 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaster (Post 54568149)
Sliiiiiiiim pickings at this point. Really don't have much hope at all for anyone left, so I went with the Hakan pick.

Add Pearce!

Do we know when he is heading to med school?

newfy 09-25-2012 10:07 AM

Sorry boys, would like to hear some explanations from anyone voting Bodin? Playing third tier in Sweden and our very last pick.

If you picked him for his size and physicality, you should be voting for Mckee over him and if its for his liklihood of becoming a fourth liner than someone like Parkes should be getting the vote.

Theres no logic to picking Bodin at this point

SoupNazi 09-25-2012 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newfy (Post 54575843)
Sorry boys, would like to hear some explanations from anyone voting Bodin? Playing third tier in Sweden and our very last pick.

If you picked him for his size and physicality, you should be voting for Mckee over him and if its for his liklihood of becoming a fourth liner than someone like Parkes should be getting the vote.

Theres no logic to picking Bodin at this point

Why? You say there's no logic to picking Bodin but don't give any logic as to why we should pick McKee or Parkes.

jaster 09-25-2012 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Rzombo4 prez (Post 54575817)
Do we know when he is heading to med school?

I haven't heard anything definitive (he probably hasn't even decided for himself), but I would guess he plays this final year of his contract and then calls it quits.

jaster 09-25-2012 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newfy (Post 54575843)
Sorry boys, would like to hear some explanations from anyone voting Bodin? Playing third tier in Sweden and our very last pick.

If you picked him for his size and physicality, you should be voting for Mckee over him and if its for his liklihood of becoming a fourth liner than someone like Parkes should be getting the vote.

Theres no logic to picking Bodin at this point

I don't expect any of these players to ever see the NHL, so my vote goes to the guy with the highest upside, in the rare event that he actually does get to the NHL. In that case, Bodin > McKee, imo.

That all aside, we're talking about the #29 prospect in our organization. I don't see how anyone can be arguing against a player at this point. I picked Bodin, but I don't think a vote for McKee is some kind of mistake.

newfy 09-25-2012 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoupNazi (Post 54576293)
Why? You say there's no logic to picking Bodin but don't give any logic as to why we should pick McKee or Parkes.

Because Bodin is playing third tier hockey in Sweden and was drafted for his size and physicality basically. Mckee was just picked higher than him for his size and physicality and is already used to North American style of play.

Parkes has played in the AHL as a pretty decent grinder who didnt look terrible last year, professional NA hockey which is somewhere a lot of prospects dont even get to, let alone regular time in the AHL and Bodin is only a decent grinder in third tier Sweden.

I also dont see how Bodin can be percieved as highest upside at all, he projects as nothing but a grinder

The Zetterberg Era 09-25-2012 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newfy (Post 54577391)
Because Bodin is playing third tier hockey in Sweden and was drafted for his size and physicality basically. Mckee was just picked higher than him for his size and physicality and is already used to North American style of play.

Parkes has played in the AHL as a pretty decent grinder who didnt look terrible last year, professional NA hockey which is somewhere a lot of prospects dont even get to, let alone regular time in the AHL and Bodin is only a decent grinder in third tier Sweden.

I also dont see how Bodin can be percieved as highest upside at all, he projects as nothing but a grinder

He has better puck skills and offers a lot more from the limited scouting reports I have read on him. There was also recently the idea that like Ericsson he could maybe transition to D. McKee is very rough with the puck, he is a very good fighter and a big man, but not nearly as awesome as some around here are making him out to be. He struggled more than any other player really at the small stuff and drills when reading KuklasKorner. While not always perfect and I have my problems Malik, but I think he showed as a very long range prospect, even if his speed is pretty good for a big man, Bodin's got a more positive review.

Also Bodin doesn't play in the worst situation, he has made HV71 through a try-out and playing in the superelite league which is pretty standard for Swedish draft picks. The fact he already impressed a pro team over there I think speaks volumes. Western doesn't even want McKee a year early.

More to Jaster's point it is hard to make a huge deal one way or the other. I think Bodin winds up a D-man and McKee might have to figure out how to be a winger which is the strange part. Both are long shots, really a big mobile fighter is still Nedomlel's role to lose for me, he used to do it a lot more and I still think he will at the NHL level.

jaster 09-25-2012 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newfy (Post 54577391)
I also dont see how Bodin can be percieved as highest upside at all, he projects as nothing but a grinder


I like the idea of him switching to defense and becoming a defensive defenseman, possibly a #4 guy. Might be one in a million, but, like I said, we're at the bottom of the barrel here, who really cares who gets voted #29 or 30 or whatever. Also, he's a Hakan pick, so he gets extra cred there. With McKee, there's just nothing there that impresses or intrigues me.

newfy 09-25-2012 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedWings19405 (Post 54577677)
He has better puck skills and offers a lot more from the limited scouting reports I have read on him. There was also recently the idea that like Ericsson he could maybe transition to D. McKee is very rough with the puck, he is a very good fighter and a big man, but not nearly as awesome as some around here are making him out to be. He struggled more than any other player really at the small stuff and drills when reading KuklasKorner. While not always perfect and I have my problems Malik, but I think he showed as a very long range prospect, even if his speed is pretty good for a big man, Bodin's got a more positive review.

Also Bodin doesn't play in the worst situation, he has made HV71 through a try-out and playing in the superelite league which is pretty standard for Swedish draft picks. The fact he already impressed a pro team over there I think speaks volumes. Western doesn't even want McKee a year early.

More to Jaster's point it is hard to make a huge deal one way or the other. I think Bodin winds up a D-man and McKee might have to figure out how to be a winger which is the strange part. Both are long shots, really a big mobile fighter is still Nedomlel's role to lose for me, he used to do it a lot more and I still think he will at the NHL level.

For starters, I would like to see these scouting reports on Bodin where they claim he has any puck skills. Like Mckee the offensive side of the game is a huge question mark for him. At least Mckee has a rocket of a shot but regardless, enough hockey hasnt been played to say one or the other has better puck skills. Especially Malik's reports have bias in them.

Both of them are considered very good skaters, especially for their size.

Offensively I dont know how you could argue one over the other cause at this point, no prospect has offensive upside.

Howerver you guys are saying Bodin could switch to defense and use that as reason, when Mckee did just switch to D a couple of years ago and is just learning the position. Somehow you use that in favour of Bodin but not Mckee?

And Bodin has been scratched every game from HV71 hasnt he?

There is no reason to say Bodin is better with the puck and unlike Bodin, Mckee actualy has a niche and role he can fill. Hes one of the toughest NHL prospects and can skate. Evefn if he does have to switch to winger that can get you on a 4th line or used as a 13th forward.

Bodin is a guy who can skate well, and is somewhat physical but doesnt really fill a role yet.


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