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IHaveNoCreativity 10-03-2012 12:48 PM

Hockey Quebec Peewee and Bantam AAA
 
It's official, it's being tested this year and brought in next year...


Anyone have any more details ?

I'd imagine that out here we will have 4 teams:
Lac St Louis East
Chateauguy (Maybe 2)
Trois Lacs
Lac St Louis West
Laval
Montreal (likely 2)

Artie 10-14-2012 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by IHaveNoCreativity (Post 54741131)
It's official, it's being tested this year and brought in next year...


Anyone have any more details ?

I'd imagine that out here we will have 4 teams:
Lac St Louis East
Chateauguy (Maybe 2)
Trois Lacs
Lac St Louis West
Laval
Montreal (likely 2)

being tested in Lanaudiere, Richelieu and Outaouais (where they have pre-existing sports-etudes structures)

Still a lot of work to do in many of the other regions and at HQ itself.

IHaveNoCreativity 10-14-2012 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Artie (Post 54981171)
being tested in Lanaudiere, Richelieu and Outaouais (where they have pre-existing sports-etudes structures)

Still a lot of work to do in many of the other regions and at HQ itself.

The president in DDO told me its official and that they might have a team in Dollard...

If Dollard ran that team it would be a nightmare... Their peewee and bantam squads are weak and the coaching in Bantam is poor...

I'm taking double letters here. The AAA's should be based in Pointe Claire, near John Rennie, most if the sport étude kids are from there... Maybe the Peewee's will be close to Lauren Hill due to the Lions affiliation with the school...

Now all the province needs is to bring back Atom AA, too many teams in BB and CC.

Artie 10-14-2012 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by IHaveNoCreativity (Post 54984879)
The president in DDO told me its official and that they might have a team in Dollard...

If Dollard ran that team it would be a nightmare... Their peewee and bantam squads are weak and the coaching in Bantam is poor...

I'm taking double letters here. The AAA's should be based in Pointe Claire, near John Rennie, most if the sport étude kids are from there... Maybe the Peewee's will be close to Lauren Hill due to the Lions affiliation with the school...

Now all the province needs is to bring back Atom AA, too many teams in BB and CC.

which president in Dollard told you they may have a AAA team in Dollard

IHaveNoCreativity 10-14-2012 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Artie (Post 54998629)
which president in Dollard told you they may have a AAA team in Dollard

Top guy, said there's talk about it.

jfb392 12-11-2012 01:39 PM

Now official for 13-14 season.

IHaveNoCreativity 12-11-2012 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jfb392 (Post 56454137)

Beat me to the punch... It's a good step..

I had trouble understanding the article though... My French isn't what it used to be.

IHaveNoCreativity 01-30-2013 08:52 AM

I thought I'd bump this...

Anyone here anything about the structure of it ?

Galchenyuk x 27 01-30-2013 12:30 PM

Bantam AAA... LSL will look like it does now in Espoir

Tigers (not sports etudes)
Royals (sports etudes)
Grenadiers
and I suspect a 4th team too cover Beauval and Trois-Lac

IHaveNoCreativity 01-30-2013 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by x6 Pacioretty 7x (Post 58681275)
Bantam AAA... LSL will look like it does now in Espoir

Tigers (not sports etudes)
Royals (sports etudes)
Grenadiers
and I suspect a 4th team too cover Beauval and Trois-Lac

Will the Royals have the same talent pool to choose from as the espoir team ?

I guess the Royals will have a big advantage of having the sports étude team...

Trois Lacs and Beuval could use a team.

proam16 01-31-2013 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by IHaveNoCreativity (Post 58712507)
Will the Royals have the same talent pool to choose from as the espoir team ?

I guess the Royals will have a big advantage of having the sports étude team...

Trois Lacs and Beuval could use a team.

Royals may be at a disadvantage in the West Island. Parents there do not want to take their kids out of good private schools to play hockey (Sport-etudes). Look at the Espois Tigers and the Espoir Royals. The Royals have few cuts to make every year. One year they had to cut a couple of forwards and a goalie. The Tigers on the the other hand - have a large pool of talent to pick from every year.

My understanding is that there will be 1 Bantam AAA sport-etudes team and 1 Bantam AAA community team. Similar structure to the Espoir teams. The budgets for these teams will be similar to an Espoir team budget and basically run the same way with a minimum amount of practice ice time per week (4.5 hours) per Hockey Quebec guidelines.

IHaveNoCreativity 01-31-2013 11:13 AM

Basically the Bantam AAA Sport Étude team would be comprised of only JRHS kids... Atleast I think that's the Espoir Royals talent pool.

While the community gets all of Lac St.Louis...

Could a AAA étude team even compete at the AAA level with such a shallow pool ?

I would imagine that both teams will be on the ice frequently however, more then 4.5 hours a week.

Any word on the number of games ? Coaches ? Selection camp ?


While at the rink yesterday I heard that Peewee AAA and AA have been setup? And that DDV and WestLake will be the teams.

Anyone else hear that ?

proam16 01-31-2013 06:10 PM

The sport-étude team would also have a francophone school in the mix too - DesSources. So unlike the rest of the province the sport-exudes kids have somewhat of a choice of school to attend.

Coaches will have to named in the near future for the respective teams. So if you are serious about bantam hockey, I would wait then to determine which team I would have my on play for. Coaching is the the most important factor in development. The other is having the best play against the best.

IHaveNoCreativity 01-31-2013 06:31 PM

Still isn't a large taken pool.

HockeyPro 02-22-2013 08:09 AM

I have the information you need. Have a look at this website www.arsenalhockey.ca . This will be the structure for the entire Grenadiers regions from peewee to Espoir. It was kept very hush hush (and still is) since the general information meeting is next week. Looks like they are not going the sport etude route since they believe that parents should have a choice where kids go to school. I was also told that they will not take kids who are in sport etude because they cannot handle the load.

Does anyone have any information on the Westlake situation for peewee ? When will tryouts take place, will SIL be tied in to this new AAA-AA structure ? I know that for Bantam, it will definitely be tied in to sport etude. remains to be seen if the Tigers will also adapt the same structure as on the Grenadiers side

IHaveNoCreativity 02-22-2013 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by HockeyPro (Post 60238259)
I have the information you need. Have a look at this website www.arsenalhockey.ca . This will be the structure for the entire Grenadiers regions from peewee to Espoir. It was kept very hush hush (and still is) since the general information meeting is next week. Looks like they are not going the sport etude route since they believe that parents should have a choice where kids go to school. I was also told that they will not take kids who are in sport etude because they cannot handle the load.

Does anyone have any information on the Westlake situation for peewee ? When will tryouts take place, will SIL be tied in to this new AAA-AA structure ? I know that for Bantam, it will definitely be tied in to sport etude. remains to be seen if the Tigers will also adapt the same structure as on the Grenadiers side

I heard that LSL will be as follows:

2 PWAAA teams, West Lake and DDV, and 2 PWAA teams DDV and Westlake.

I was told Bantam AAA is 1 regional team run out of Lakeshore, and that Bantam AA is 2 teams DDV and Westlake.

I was told that Bantam AA DDV would be based in DDO.

HockeyPro 02-22-2013 02:03 PM

I was told differently. Bantam AAA-AA will be run out of HWI Sport Etude. I would also assume that there will be a AAA-AA team for parents not wanting their kids in sport etude.

HockeyPro 02-22-2013 02:09 PM

Do we know when the tryouts will be for Westlake peewee ? Coaches in the running ?

IHaveNoCreativity 02-22-2013 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by HockeyPro (Post 60256831)
Do we know when the tryouts will be for Westlake peewee ? Coaches in the running ?

No idea for either. The most I know is that DDO has asked someone to handle the dryland in Bantam AA.

Do you know what the process for the Arsenal coaching selection will be ?

HockeyPro 02-22-2013 02:15 PM

You probably need to be a friend and well connected !

IHaveNoCreativity 02-22-2013 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HockeyPro (Post 60256437)
I was told differently. Bantam AAA-AA will be run out of HWI Sport Etude. I would also assume that there will be a AAA-AA team for parents not wanting their kids in sport etude.

I found something to back up what you said, apparently John Rennie has opened up space for kids to register if they are interested in trying out for Espoir, BT-AAA and BT-AA...

Multiple people have told be that Lakeshore got Bantam AAA and that Dollard got Bantam AA DDV.

IHaveNoCreativity 02-22-2013 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by HockeyPro (Post 60257159)
You probably need to be a friend and well connected !

That's hockey for ya... It's unfortunate but true.


Everyone wants in AAA, I'll settle for AA lol.

I'd imagine that some of the names that will surface for Westlake/DDV will be: Nick Orlando, Keifer Orsini, Louis Isabella and John Stamtopoulos.

All of them from what I know were coaches at either the U-12 or U-14's at the tournament in Brossard last year.

Orsini and Stamatopolous (Spelling) are current peewee AA coaches in Lakeshore and West Island respectively.

I could be 100% wrong but I've heard those names before. It's all pure guess work.

HockeyPro 02-22-2013 03:06 PM

Unless these guys have a High Performance (HP) certification or a Competition 2 and taking HP1 while they're on the job, they cannot get that job. They are looking for X-Pro hockey players or properly qualified coaches with player experience.

IHaveNoCreativity 02-22-2013 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by HockeyPro (Post 60259951)
Unless these guys have a High Performance (HP) certification or a Competition 2 and taking HP1 while they're on the job, they cannot get that job. They are looking for X-Pro hockey players or properly qualified coaches with player experience.

I know of someone who is going for their high performance certification this summer. You can get your team and then the HP.

Usually that's how it works.

What is this competition 2 ? I've never heard of it until recently. What does it cover ?

HockeyPro 02-22-2013 04:38 PM

I have it myself. I spent 4 days in Windsor On. It covers all technical/tactical/mental/nutritional , yearly planning, off ice training etc.. etc.. plus you need your regional head coach to vouch for you before taking the course. He then needs to evaluate you at a practice and in a game. You also have to hand in an assignment after Comp 1 and another one after Comp 2. It needs to be a Hockey Quebec recognized team/association ... not any of that spring AAA hockey. It's a long and ardous process. You are correct about HP1. You can begin that stage once you have your team.


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