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cup67 10-04-2012 06:31 PM

AHL, support or not?
 
Should we ban, from watching, buying tickets, supporting the AHL?
the nhl team owners do own those teams, should they be making profits from those games? from the fans of hockey, since they did lock out the nhl players.

what do you guys think?

Liminality 10-04-2012 06:37 PM

I'll be supporting the AHL team this year, possibly go to a couple of games for cheap.

Quarter 10-04-2012 06:38 PM

You're saying we should boycott hockey... in Toronto.

Good luck.

cup67 10-04-2012 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quarter (Post 54769727)
You're saying we should boycott hockey... in Toronto.

Good luck.

no. support other leagues, OHL.

MARLIES are owned by the leafs, rogers/bell.
they will make money if you go and watch, and have enough to pay burke.
rogers /bell laugh at us, all the way to the bank.

junior hockey, minor hockey, support them, they never lock out the FANS, like the NHL/AHL owners did.

clawfirst 10-04-2012 06:51 PM

I'm not positive but isn't the TML/marlies same ownership being one the exception and not the rule. Might want to look into that. If I made this thread, I would have.

smitty10 10-04-2012 06:54 PM

LOL! Nobody in Toronto is going to actually go through with boycotting hockey. At least none of the people with blue and white in their veins. I'll be watching and cheering for the Marlies. Can't wait to see Gardiner, Holzer, Kadri, Frattin, Ranger, Colborne and D'amigo down there.

HeroNtF 10-04-2012 06:57 PM

Are you kidding ? Just keep going to ahl games and supporting them even when hockey starts up ! You even have the chance of watching playoff hockey !

Hurt 10-04-2012 07:05 PM

Heck I'll probably be able to go to 4 AHL games for the price of 1 NHL game.

Quarter 10-04-2012 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cup67 (Post 54769919)
no. support other leagues, OHL.

MARLIES are owned by the leafs, rogers/bell.
they will make money if you go and watch, and have enough to pay burke.
rogers /bell laugh at us, all the way to the bank.

junior hockey, minor hockey, support them, they never lock out the FANS, like the NHL/AHL owners did.

I guess I'll just buy whatever Marlies tickets you don't then while you continue to live under this false sense of grandeur you seem to be suffering from. Because if you're going to stop buying into the Leafs/Marlies you may as well continue the lunacy and cut all internet, phone and TV ties with Bell and Rogers as well considering that's where these companies have made all their money.

clawfirst 10-04-2012 07:07 PM

Still..no one wants to point out how few teams have the same owners...really? haven't even checked yet but come on...

Drew311 10-04-2012 07:22 PM

I'll be supporting the Mariles because I want them to succeed, considering how many potential future Leafs are on the team.

Pilky01 10-04-2012 07:44 PM

OHL >>> AHL

Support LOCAL hockey. Unless you live downtown, the Marlies aren't local. Support the Steelheads, the Battalion, the Generals, Colts, Ice Dogs, Rangers, Petes, Knights, etc...

We have the greates junior league on earth and the NHL's #1 feeder system right in our backyards. If you consider yourself a hockey fan, you are doing yourself, and your home province a disservice by not attending.

I have no plans on attending Marlies games. To me, giving the Marlies money is just tacit approval of the NHL's business practices.

Knights & Generals! All day!

Loosie 10-04-2012 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clawfirst (Post 54769933)
I'm not positive but isn't the TML/marlies same ownership being one the exception and not the rule. Might want to look into that. If I made this thread, I would have.

Yup MLSE is one of the exceptions. This is one of the reasons why you see so many affiliations change over the years. And why its been only recently there have been 30 AHL teams.

Ari91 10-04-2012 07:49 PM

I'll be going to Marlies games. In fact, I'm thinking about getting tickets to their season opener. I'm also considering going to some Raptors games this season (will have to learn some stuff about the team I guess, lol) since I don't have NHL to spend money on. Yes, all the money is still going to MLSE but they're providing me with a product to invest my time in. Hockey players not playing hockey doesn't provide me with anything therefore I don't feel the need to take on their battle and punish myself in the process.

Loosie 10-04-2012 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clawfirst (Post 54770253)
Still..no one wants to point out how few teams have the same owners...really? haven't even checked yet but come on...

I'm curious about it too..I;m going to research it and edit this post.

This is all according to Wikipedia

Anschutz Entertainment Group (Kings, Monarchs, as well as two ECHL teams, Djugardens, Hamberg Freezers and Eisbern Berlin...and that's just hockey)
True North Sports & Entertainment (Winnipeg Jets & St. John's IceCaps)
San Jose Sports & Entertainment (San Jose & Worcester Sharks)
New Jersey Devils own the Albany Devils
Charles Wang (New York Islanders & Bridgeport Sound Tigers)
MSG Inc (New York Rangers & Connecticut Whale)
Ron Burkle & Mario Lemieux (Pittsburgh & Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Penguins)
Terry Pegula (Buffalo Sabres & Rochester Americans)
MLSE (Toronto Maple Leafs & Toronto Marlies)
Tom Stillman (St. Louis Blues & Peoria Rivermen)
Minnesota Sports & Entertainment (Minnesota Wild & majority owner Houston Aeros)


Owners for the Abbostford Heat aren't mentioned but the team has moved 4 times since 2003 and has reamined the Flames affiliate, I suspect they are the same owners as the Flames

More than I thought but still lest than half

Swervin81 10-04-2012 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cup67 (Post 54769919)
no. support other leagues, OHL.

MARLIES are owned by the leafs, rogers/bell.
they will make money if you go and watch, and have enough to pay burke.
rogers /bell laugh at us, all the way to the bank.

junior hockey, minor hockey, support them, they never lock out the FANS, like the NHL/AHL owners did.

I won't be going to any games or buying any merch, so from a strictly financial standpoint, yes. I'm still watching on TV though.

Everlong 10-04-2012 08:23 PM

These kids work their buts off, and after the season they had last year they deserve some buts in the seats.

This franchise affiliate has seen enough years of a vacant arena. I don't think boycotting the Marlies will do anyone any good. Might give cup67 a false sense of accomplishment.:dunno:

charliolemieux 10-04-2012 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hurt (Post 54770205)
Heck I'll probably be able to go to 4 AHL games for the price of 1 NHL game.

Exactly.

Fill the Ricoh and MLSE would notice.

FlareKnight 10-04-2012 09:49 PM

Either way you're kind of doomed. Go and can say Leaf fans will just keep coming back no matter what the they get served. Don't show up and you're a bad fan who can't support any hockey that doesn't have the Leafs attached.

In the end no one going to the Marlies games hasn't done much in the past. Might as well support the guys who are doing their best on that team.

Leafs For Life* 10-04-2012 10:48 PM

YAHH! And then, we should get all the Torontonians to boycott baseball, soccer, CFL, and basketball also!

lampshade* 10-04-2012 10:49 PM

Espn3 will be showing some khl games. Ahl is rubbish, count my vote for the K.

Grant 10-04-2012 10:56 PM

Somehow I get the feeling they aren't making money off of AHL hockey. Many of those guys still get paid 100k+ not to mention the expensive coaches, trainers and player development people etc and when you can only sit ~8k people you won't be making that money back.

FishManSam 10-04-2012 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lampshade (Post 54775059)
Espn3 will be showing some khl games. Ahl is rubbish, count my vote for the K.

The K is like watching a bunch of figure skating 13 year old boys shooting pucks at an inflatable goalie...

Seriously the goaltending is terrible in that league, defense is atrocious and there is so much diving and slashing. I can't watch that garbage.

I'll be going to the Marlies games to watch our team's future and I'll also be attending Gens and Steelheads games. I'm from North York so it's a bit easier going to Marlies games then driving 40+ minutes to see some OHL games.

7even 10-04-2012 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pilky01 (Post 54770971)
OHL >>> AHL

Support LOCAL hockey. Unless you live downtown, the Marlies aren't local. Support the Steelheads, the Battalion, the Generals, Colts, Ice Dogs, Rangers, Petes, Knights, etc...

We have the greates junior league on earth and the NHL's #1 feeder system right in our backyards. If you consider yourself a hockey fan, you are doing yourself, and your home province a disservice by not attending.

I have no plans on attending Marlies games. To me, giving the Marlies money is just tacit approval of the NHL's business practices.

Knights & Generals! All day!

Or you could like, you know, go support any team you want and not be super pretentious about it.

DeceiverOfTheGods 10-04-2012 10:57 PM

Will definitely be supporting the Marlies, the Steelheads, and the Battalion. Will also hit some Gennie games if I'm in the area, and maybe even a Petes game.


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