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Reaper45 10-10-2012 10:00 PM

Bernier signs in Germany
 
Heilbronner Falken of the German 2nd league.

http://www.eliteprospects.com/team.php?team=444


Joins Kopitar in Sweden and Martinez in Finland as the Kings lockout signings.

Tonellisghost 10-11-2012 11:28 AM

Against team wishes or so it has been said.

RAZZIE King 10-11-2012 12:47 PM

I would have hoped that it was the Freezers that signed him...but good to know he's playing somewhere...

Jason Lewis 10-11-2012 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Tonellisghost (Post 54910937)
Against team wishes or so it has been said.

Eek.

Well, I guess if he knows his future is not with the Kings then why worry?

Model62 10-11-2012 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Tonellisghost (Post 54910937)
Against team wishes or so it has been said.

1) Maybe the team shouldn't have locked him out;

2) Maybe he knows who the new owners will be and they said go for it.

KingsFan7824 10-11-2012 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Tonellisghost (Post 54910937)
Against team wishes or so it has been said.

Hahahaha. The two sides aren't in any hurry to even talk about the thing that is causing the lockout. There is no team to listen to.

Tonellisghost 10-11-2012 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by KingsFan7824 (Post 54913719)
Hahahaha. The two sides aren't in any hurry to even talk about the thing that is causing the lockout. There is no team to listen to.

Don't tell that to the guys who are working their tails off down in Manchester or in the KHL or in EU or in Ont etc.

Maybe JB decided to go where he wanted as opposed to where some might have wanted him to but that doesn't mean that people aren't very interested.

The lock out isn't like a strike where mgmt hates the workers and the workers hate mgmt. The team still functions as a team and the players, coaches and others still call each other or see each other on a regular basis.

Ziggy Stardust 10-11-2012 02:11 PM

The Kings can't really dictate where Bernier decides to play while he's locked out. No NHL team has control over where any of their players play, unless it's a player who is eligible to be assigned to the minors (without having to clear waivers).

Tonellisghost 10-11-2012 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Ziggy Stardust (Post 54914809)
The Kings can't really dictate where Bernier decides to play while he's locked out. No NHL team has control over where any of their players play, unless it's a player who is eligible to be assigned to the minors (without having to clear waivers).

Yep, that is exactly what is said to have happened here.

JB ended up signing a lock out contract with a team that isn't where the Kings would have allegedly wanted him to play. They may have told him where they would prefer him to sign but ultimately it was JB's choice regardless of the team.

That said, the Kings do have a ton of leverage with players who are still establishing themselves and looking for a career with the team.

The Kings can show their approval or disapproval and after that it is up to the player on what they decide.

BigBrown 10-11-2012 02:38 PM

I thought the Kings weren't allowed to talk to their players.

Tonellisghost 10-11-2012 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BigBrown (Post 54915497)
I thought the Kings weren't allowed to talk to their players.

Nope, they can talk about allot of things.

Chazz Reinhold 10-11-2012 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Tonellisghost (Post 54915721)
Nope, they can talk about allot of things.

Sutter specifically said he isn't allowed to talk to players. All management is legally barred from any conversations with locked out players.

Ziggy Stardust 10-11-2012 06:46 PM

They can only talk to injured players.

Reaper45 10-12-2012 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Tonellisghost (Post 54910937)
Against team wishes or so it has been said.

Just another reason I think he's moved sooner rather than later.

Model62 10-13-2012 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Tonellisghost (Post 54914595)
The team still functions as a team and the players, coaches and others still call each other or see each other on a regular basis.

They better not be. Employees of the NHL may not speak or have contact with PA members during the lock out.

Tonellisghost 10-16-2012 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Chazz Reinhold (Post 54920913)
Sutter specifically said he isn't allowed to talk to players. All management is legally barred from any conversations with locked out players.

Stevens has spoken with players down in Manchester and so have a few other coaches.

There is a distinction to be made here, it all depends on their status.

Tonellisghost 10-16-2012 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Model62 (Post 54956137)
They better not be. Employees of the NHL may not speak or have contact with PA members during the lock out.

As I have said, there are allowable exceptions depending on the players status with the team and the type of contract that they are currently under.

The team still operates as a team and there are exceptions to this rule. It is a fact.

Frolov 6'3 12-04-2012 02:07 PM

Jonathan Bernier Back To Canada Again
 
http://www.heilbronner-falken.de/akt...90caa2bd24a73d

kingsholygrail 12-04-2012 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Frolov 6'3 (Post 56238143)

Did he cut his hair?

Kings man 4 life 12-04-2012 05:05 PM

Anyone who speaks German care to give us the cliff notes?

Holden Caulfield 12-04-2012 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Kings man 4 life (Post 56242901)
Anyone who speaks German care to give us the cliff notes?

Using Google translate, it looks like regular goalie Kevin Nastiuk (hey I used train in the off-season with that guy :handclap:) has returned from injury last Sunday so Bernier has returned to Canada. The deal was only supposed to be a month but was extended due to the unexpected slow recovery time for Nastiuk.

Also a particularly garbled part at the end, but it sounds like Bernier will return to Europe to join Team Canada for the Spengler Cup in late December.

Frolov 6'3 12-04-2012 05:42 PM

I live near the German border. Their wienerschnitzels are great, I can say.

Holden has said everything that need be said. I will translate the rest.

* Bernier ended his latest game with a 3-0 shoutout. Totals 6 wins/7 losses/2.57 GAA.
* Management (Ernst Rupp) thank Bernier for his dedication. He says; ''It is not logical that a player is taking a flight, within a day, to play for a new team in Germany. We had to respond quickly and were very happy we could acquire such a top player. We wish him all the best for the future."
* Bernier was also suprised about his move. He says; ''It was a great expierence for me. Best wishes to everyone and maybe we will meet eachother again, wherever that might be."
* Bernier will stay in Canada for a few weeks and will travel to Switzerland on 25 december, to play in the Spengler Cup.

Who doesnt want to win that Cup ?


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