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Beef Invictus 10-12-2012 01:04 PM

CBA Negotiations II: This is the song that never ends...
 
Carry on your wailing and gnashing of teeth here.

CBA Status: Limbo, on the way to purgatory by way of hell.

CS 10-12-2012 01:05 PM


SolidSnakeUS 10-12-2012 01:16 PM

*******. *******? *******.

BleedOrange 10-12-2012 01:24 PM

This is so crap they meet for 2 days and not once talk about why there is a lockout.Never talk about the main crap that is holding this season from starting.:rant:

shipwreck 10-12-2012 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BleedOrange (Post 54938465)
This is so crap they meet for 2 days and not once talk about why there is a lockout.Never talk about the main crap that is holding this season from starting.:rant:

I agree, this is ridiculous...

Krishna 10-12-2012 02:00 PM

This was actually the title I was going to recommend

Beef Invictus 10-12-2012 04:47 PM

Apparently US mayors are contacting the owners/players to try and get things moving. I doubt it makes a difference.

http://www.wtop.com/109/3076048/Mayo...nd-NHL-lockout

PHILOUDELPHIA 10-12-2012 07:16 PM

i wonder if its finally time to get a mediator involved

bp spec 10-12-2012 07:34 PM

This is just ****

BleedOrange 10-12-2012 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by PHILOUDELPHIA (Post 54946409)
i wonder if its finally time to get a mediator involved

I'd say yes no one wants to make the first move complete B S .

hckyplayer8 10-12-2012 11:42 PM

They can #$%%#! blow #$!@$$!#$. $%#^ them.

EvilAsh 10-13-2012 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BleedOrange (Post 54938465)
This is so crap they meet for 2 days and not once talk about why there is a lockout.Never talk about the main crap that is holding this season from starting.:rant:

Do you really think they're not talking about "key issues" or just saying that to keep the media off their back?

Prongo 10-13-2012 03:18 PM

Meeting again on Tueday, meeting place TBD

GKJ 10-13-2012 06:17 PM

I read on Twitter, think it was Johnathan Willis, was probably someone else, but this time in 2004, the PA and owners hadn't met since September 9

Krishna 10-13-2012 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GKJ (Post 54968005)
I read on Twitter, think it was Johnathan Willis, was probably someone else, but this time in 2004, the PA and owners hadn't met since September 9

Yep, it was september 9th until about december 15th

McNasty 10-13-2012 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GKJ (Post 54968005)
I read on Twitter, think it was Johnathan Willis, was probably someone else, but this time in 2004, the PA and owners hadn't met since September 9

I don't think they had official meetings from then until early December.

Prongo 10-16-2012 11:58 AM

Significant in roads were made today with the NHL and their new proposal. 50/50 split with no salary rollbacks. NHLPA has "10 days" to review it and give an answer. The deal also would save the 82 game season and would start on November 2nd. I think we have finally made the progress needed to get a NHL season under way.

GoneFullHextall 10-16-2012 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prongo (Post 55030893)
Significant in roads were made today with the NHL and their new proposal. 50/50 split with no salary rollbacks. NHLPA has "10 days" to review it and give an answer. The deal also would save the 82 game season and would start on November 2nd. I think we have finally made the progress needed to get a NHL season under way.

im not going to hold my breath, but at least both sides are making an attempy for there to be hockey this season. I would be shocked if we had a 82 game schedule starting nov. 2. that is asking a lot IMO
You are going to have a lot of groin and lower body injuries if we compact the schedule that much.

Prongo 10-16-2012 12:09 PM

I'll just keep updating all the important news here until I have to make some errand runs.

https://twitter.com/aaronward_nhl/st...53068385284097

Quote:

NHLPA has called a 5 PM (Eastern) conference call for the Executive Board and the Negotiating Committee. #TSN
Renaud P Lavoie ‏
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Don Fehr:"its not a short offer and we need to read it and understand it. Then we'll get back with the NHL today or Wednesday."
Darren Dreger
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NHL intends on calculating lost salary in getting to 50-50 and will pay the players back over time.
Michael Grange ‏
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Fehr -- the hope is this is something we can negotiate of off ... But we cant say that yet
Josh Rimer
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Just spoke to an NHL Player who is ecstatic about the new NHL Proposal! Told me it's a great day for hockey and a great day for the NHL.
Dan Rosen
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"We haven't been able to run any numbers yet much less formulate a response," Fehr said.

McNasty 10-16-2012 12:14 PM

Very curious to see what stuff is in this CBA regarding amnesty, contract regulations, and revenue sharing. As far as HRR split is concerned though, this should get it done.

Beef Invictus 10-16-2012 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prongo (Post 55031367)
I'll just keep updating all the important news here until I have to make some errand runs.

https://twitter.com/aaronward_nhl/st...53068385284097



Renaud P Lavoie ‏

Fehr: "Good news! The owners have agreed to treat you to ice cream sandwiches after every game."

Players: "Oh. That's neat. What progress have you made on the core economic issues?"

Fehr: "Don't be silly. We have many more things to discuss first. We must determine thread count for locker room towels and thermostat settings first. These are vital issues."

Players: "We think you and Bettman are afraid to discuss the money issues because neither wants the embarrassment of blinking first."

Fehr: "No more ice cream sandwiches."

CS 10-16-2012 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prongo (Post 55031367)
I'll just keep updating all the important news here until I have to make some errand runs.

Awesome.

Let's see how this turns out though before we count chickens.

Prongo 10-16-2012 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by McNasty (Post 55031595)
Very curious to see what stuff is in this CBA regarding amnesty, contract regulations, and revenue sharing. As far as HRR split is concerned though, this should get it done.

I don't think it contains anthing about amnesty buyouts. It was said the NHL also changed their stance on contracts also. NHL is actually making the sacrifices here this time, I didn't see this coming at all. No numbers after year one of 50/50, but I would think to not insult them again, it would stay pretty close to those numbers.

It seems like the some players are happy with the offer too, Josh Rimer tweeted about it.

CS 10-16-2012 12:19 PM

As a bunch of people were saying before, it's a shame they've had to jump through all of these hoops just to get the numbers just about where all of us figured they would end up.

Prongo 10-16-2012 12:20 PM

The new proposal is for at least 6 years.


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