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Buya89 10-13-2012 11:31 AM

KHL salaries
 
Are there any places to find out what team salaries are and individual salaries?

or at least top ten highest paid khl players...

RobertR 10-13-2012 01:48 PM

no way ;)

First rule of KHL: we do not talk about salaries. :sarcasm:

Robotic 10-13-2012 03:02 PM

Radulov #1 ;)

Atas2000 10-13-2012 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by RobertR (Post 54960647)
no way ;)

First rule of KHL: we do not talk about salaries. :sarcasm:

Stop that prejudicesd BS. The salaries are not disclosed because of the players union which under russian law has the right to block salaries disclosure. The league itself has nothing to do with it.

RobertR 10-14-2012 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Atas2000 (Post 54971053)
Stop that prejudicesd BS. The salaries are not disclosed because of the players union which under russian law has the right to block salaries disclosure. The league itself has nothing to do with it.

In every post you react so strongly whenever someone post that in KHL things are not so great and shiny.

And btw, players union is not part of the league then?

Vicente 10-14-2012 05:15 AM

Usually in Europe salaries are not made public in any sports. Media has to estimate who really earns what sum of money. That is not even a Russian-based thing. That happens also in Germany. ;)

Atas2000 10-14-2012 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by RobertR (Post 54978797)
Calm down boy...

In every post you react so strongly whenever someone post that in KHL things are not so great and shiny.

And btw, players union is not part of the league then?

Plain and simple: no, the player's union is not part of the league.

P.S. I wonder how you understand the lockout negotiations in NA if a player's union is a part of the league.

RobertR 10-14-2012 10:06 AM

Players union represents players who play in league, but union itself is not part of KHL? If KHL owners don`t run the union, it doesn't mean that union is not part of the league.

RobertR 10-14-2012 10:16 AM

Yeah, and really, KHL would be so happy to open salaries to public view, what a shame that union doesn't allow them to do that. :(

:sarcasm:

Atas2000 10-14-2012 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by RobertR (Post 54981239)
Players union represents players who play in league, but union itself is not part of KHL? If KHL owners don`t run the union, it doesn't mean that union is not part of the league.

Maybe you are toooo old to understand such a simple thing?

A union is never part of the league by definition. Otherwise it's no union.

Atas2000 10-14-2012 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by RobertR (Post 54981353)
Yeah, and really, KHL would be so happy to open salaries to public view, what a shame that union doesn't allow them to do that. :(

:sarcasm:

http://www.hockeyreview.ru/chl/15452...e-igrokov.html

read it and don't come up with some kind of BS he'd be lying or somethnig. with that kind of argumentation you can claim everything without proof.

RobertR 10-14-2012 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Atas2000 (Post 54981951)
http://www.hockeyreview.ru/chl/15452...e-igrokov.html

read it and don't come up with some kind of BS he'd be lying or somethnig. with that kind of argumentation you can claim everything without proof.

Ohh, so now we believe in everything Medvedev said? :D

"From the start, league aimed to make all team budgets and salaries open, and how about that, 5 years later, and we still do not know anything. :(

P.S Again, you really don`t understand what I meant by saying "part of the league".

Helpoing 10-14-2012 12:29 PM

Seriously, it was stated multiple times by KHL heads and Kovalenko (head of the union) that the league is willing to publish salaries, but can't do so. The reason was already explained by Atas in a pretty understandable way.

RobertR 10-14-2012 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Helpoing (Post 54983429)
Seriously, it was stated multiple times by KHL heads and Kovalenko (head of the union) that the league is willing to publish salaries, but can't do so. The reason was already explained by Atas in a pretty understandable way.

I know all of that. I`am not arguing about the reason.

Am I not allowed to think that they just saying that, but actually they don`t mean it? I think league will only lose, if entire world would see how much guys like Radulov gets paid.

Is it such a crime to think that way... :help:

Kshahdoo 10-14-2012 12:38 PM

The cap is 1.2 billion rubles. Which is 37-38 million dollars. So you may figure out. But yeah, you won't find other figures.

Helpoing 10-14-2012 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RobertR (Post 54983617)
I know all of that. I`am not arguing about the reason.

Am I not allowed to think that they just saying that, but actually they don`t mean it? I think league will only lose, if entire world would see how much guys like Radulov gets paid.

Is it such a crime to think that way... :help:

Oh yeah, conspiracy, bribery, corruption. I can't force myself to remember about those things.

Robotic 10-14-2012 12:48 PM

Radulov makes around 9.2 million per year for 4 yrs from everything I've read btw.

RobertR 10-14-2012 01:16 PM

So, if we started to talk about salaries and money, i have some thoughts about that, hope no one will became mad. :D

I wanna talk about Kuznya. In all resources and articles, I always hear one thing - Kuznya have money problems, they are one of the poorest clubs in the league. (Today at KHL show "league P.S" Gimaev said that again).

But i look at their roster, Brent Sopel!!, guys who before signing with Kuznya, played 70 game NHL season, all prev season was NHL regular.

Randy Robitaille, guy who year before, he was signed, was scoring leader!!! of NLA.

Maybe i can added more guys too that list. Simon had pretty solid season with Vitjaz/Dmsk.

So is it about those guys age? (Soples was 33 when he signed, Robitalle 35, Simon 38.) That why their are so cheap?

Or maybe they just saving on Russian players? To be fair, i just looked down on their roster, and the guys who I know are, both goalkeepers, Bumagin and Slepyshev.

So that is Kuznya`s secret? Sign good, but little old foreigners, but save on Russians players by adding lots of youngsters to the team?

Again, for very impressionable people. I`am not trying to build some conspiracy sht here. Just trying to get acquainted with Kuznya`s situation.

pouskin74* 10-15-2012 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by khlman (Post 54983931)
Radulov makes around 9.2 million per year for 4 yrs from everything I've read btw.

Pobably he isnt make so much. Look like actual figure is a couple of millions less per/year

fredrikstad 10-21-2012 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Vicente (Post 54979793)
Usually in Europe salaries are not made public in any sports. Media has to estimate who really earns what sum of money. That is not even a Russian-based thing. That happens also in Germany. ;)

And in Sweden,Finland,Denmark and Norway too. And it's not just hockey, it's like that in all sports,soccer,cross country skiing, tennis, handball and so on.

SoundAndFury 10-21-2012 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by RobertR (Post 54984853)
So that is Kuznya`s secret? Sign good, but little old foreigners, but save on Russians players by adding lots of youngsters to the team?

Yes.

Not only foreigners though, I believe some of their Russian top-6 forwards are quite expensive too but in general that's their secret - spend the money on guys worth spending on and fill out the roster with young or for some other reason cheap players.


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