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BlueShirts88 10-15-2012 04:34 PM

2012-13 Lockout Discussion Part IV (UPDATE: "The Union took a step backward")
 
Part IV of the madness.

Bird Law 10-15-2012 04:37 PM

**** the NHL.

BrooklynRangersFan 10-15-2012 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by NYRangers88 (Post 55014261)
Part IV of the madness.

While I will certainly take exception to the new cancellations, I think you meant to say "expected". ;)

BlueShirts88 10-15-2012 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BrooklynRangersFan (Post 55014353)
While I will certainly take exception to the new cancellations, I think you meant to say "expected". ;)

Oh god, nice catch :laugh: Fixed.

BrooklynRangersFan 10-15-2012 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by NYRangers88 (Post 55014393)
Oh god, nice catch :laugh: Fixed.

Hahaha. The lockout is driving us all to distraction.

I'm actually looking forward to watching my first Nets PREseason game tonight.

GordonGecko 10-15-2012 04:52 PM

Lockout will be over by the end of next week, IMO - print it.

Blueshirt Believer 10-15-2012 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by GordonGecko (Post 55014591)
Lockout will be over by the end of next week, IMO - print it.

I'm still sticking to my mid november prediction. I think they will stay on the "merry go round" for a little bit longer.

Bleed Ranger Blue 10-15-2012 04:58 PM

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Sorry, but I don't see how I have "less of a right" to complain about the labor wars. Yes, I put money into the NHL. Just like I put money into the NFL and MLB -- because I am sports fan. The other leagues seem to handle labor issues with minimal consequences, yet the NHL is on verge of losing it's 2nd full season in 8 years which is unprecedented. The NFL has a bigger revenue pool than the NHL will ever have, yet they seem to handle the situation with timelines and responsibility. The NFL has lost a total of 0 regular season games due to lockouts or strikes. They don't take advantage of the fans, like the NHL does.

My putting money into the NHL has nothing to do with the two sides acting like children and causing a stalemate because it would happen regardless. It is the nature of what has become the poorest managed league in professional sports.
Well, first off, I think the notion that you need to go to games, snatch up merchandise, etc is what makes one a "die-hard fan" is ridiculous.

More importantly, I agree with nearly everything you said. I just dont see how continuing to pump money into a dysfunctional league will produce any of the change we all deem is necessary. Im under no illusion that Im part of some huge revolution - but it does make me feel better that my money isnt the source of these constant messes.

RangerBoy 10-15-2012 05:01 PM

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Rumble is one side or other or perhaps both working on some new material that could lead to new offer/proposal. Find out soon enough I guess
https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/s...63180259680257

BlueShirts88 10-15-2012 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bleed Ranger Blue (Post 55014715)
Well, first off, I think the notion that you need to go to games, snatch up merchandise, etc is what makes one a "die-hard fan" is ridiculous.

I agree, I'm not saying that you have to spend money to be a die hard fan. I'm just saying I enjoy attending games.

RGY 10-15-2012 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonathan. (Post 55014335)
**** the NHL.

Seconded Jon.

NYRFAN218 10-15-2012 05:14 PM

NHL is holding another focus group on Friday in the city. Just filled out the survey for it, would love to get picked.

silverfish 10-15-2012 05:14 PM

Fans in the NYC area, quick survey to try and be a part of the next focus group (this Friday)...

http://www.surveygizmo.com/s3/105772...Y-October-19th

See you guys there!

Bleed Ranger Blue 10-15-2012 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by silverfish (Post 55015011)
Fans in the NYC area, quick survey to try and be a part of the next focus group (this Friday)...

http://www.surveygizmo.com/s3/105772...Y-October-19th

See you guys there!

Something tells me question 18 carries more weight than others:

18. What is your family income before taxes? *This question is required.
LESS THAN $39,999
$40,000-$49,999
$50,000-$74,999
$75,000-$99,999
$100,000-$149,999
$150,000 OR MORE

nyrpassion 10-15-2012 05:21 PM

Hope there's no part V !

BlueShirts88 10-15-2012 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by nyrpassion (Post 55015093)
Hope there's no part V !

I said that 2 parts ago :help:

-31- 10-15-2012 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by NYRangers88 (Post 55015125)
I said that 2 parts ago :help:

I hope there's no Part VIII

RangerBoy 10-15-2012 05:27 PM

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#FlaPanthers gauge season ticket holder interest on hosting AHL @SARampage game on Nov 20 - day before Thanksgiving game v #NYRangers
https://twitter.com/GeorgeRichards/s...66324884574209

This tweet is interesting. Its not cheap to open the arena for a game. They need to put the ice down. Why wait until November to play an AHL game? San Antonio is in the middle of home stand that week and they have no game scheduled for November 20. They are going to fly out the team from San Antonio to south Florida to play a game. Jet fuel is expensive these days. The other AHL will need to fly to south Florida. The Rangers are supposed to play FLA on November 21.

http://www.sarampage.com/schedule/calendar/?act[v]=graphical&frm[d]=2012-11-01

MacTruck 10-15-2012 05:44 PM

Tomorrow's meeting looks promising. Rumblings of a new NHLPA proposal is definitely something to booster my outlook on the lockout a little bit. We'll see how it goes. I can't take this much longer :cry:

Kane One 10-15-2012 05:55 PM

Filled it out. Hopefully I get called.

SingnBluesOnBroadway 10-15-2012 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by NYRangers88 (Post 55014829)
I agree, I'm not saying that you have to spend money to be a die hard fan. I'm just saying I enjoy attending games.

Putting money into the league encourages it to be dysfunctional.

Bleed Ranger Blue 10-15-2012 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by NYRangers88 (Post 55014829)
I agree, I'm not saying that you have to spend money to be a die hard fan. I'm just saying I enjoy attending games.

And Im just saying that attending games is the key revenue stream for the NHL, and the key source of these arguments.

Other sports settle their labor issues quicker not because they care about the fans, but because they care about the money fans pump into the game. The NHL doesnt even seem to go that far.

Why is that?

I just happen to think a big reason why is because they think millions of people like you will be right back in their seats the second the game comes back.

-31- 10-15-2012 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Bleed Ranger Blue (Post 55016077)
I just happen to think a big reason why is because they think millions of people like you will be right back in their seats the second the game comes back.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_wb8bAl1P-N...s400/smug2.jpg

If you want to abstain from putting money into the NHL for moral reasons, that's your business. I don't get condemning all others who can't/won't though.

Bleed Ranger Blue 10-15-2012 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by -31- (Post 55016285)
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_wb8bAl1P-N...s400/smug2.jpg

If you want to abstain from putting money into the NHL for moral reasons, that's your business. I don't get condemning all others who can't/won't though.

I havent once condemned anyone else's stance on the issue - its their decision.

Its only my opinion that us fans won't see any change until the money they argue about every few years gets choked off.

NYRFAN218 10-15-2012 06:30 PM

Michael Russo ‏@Russostrib
Fascinating! #NHL learned that fans want them to play. Money well spent “@FrankLuntz: my official response: pic.twitter.com/k7od1lgN”

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A5SLCkmCAAAl_nm.jpg


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