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Westevez 10-16-2012 09:28 PM

RW JC Lipon - Kamloops Blazers, WHL (2013, 91st overall, Winnipeg)
 
22 points in 10 games. How in holy hell did no one draft this guy?

Vikke 10-16-2012 10:03 PM

24 pts in 10 games actually, I think. According to WHL.ca at least.

WHL.ca profile: http://www.whl.ca/roster/show/id/874
Eliteprospects: http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=45487

R S 10-16-2012 10:05 PM

Guys slip through the cracks, don't get picked for various reasons. Kid has a good motor, great speed and dynamite offensive skills.

Was supposed to be going to Avs training camp before the lockout occurred. He'll get a contract this season (unless that window is closed now and if not, he'll get drafted for sure).

Mr Writer 10-17-2012 03:45 AM

I've never seen him play... does HC give him any consideration for the U20 team...as it looks as though our lock out team won't be going....

puckfan13 10-17-2012 04:06 AM

He'll fight too. This guy is a great show of what can happen when you put your head down and keep working to be a team guy. Lots of 16 and 17 year olds who aren't highly heralded can get buried in junior lineups and be in and out. I've seen a lot of them lose that passion and fire under their butt once that draft year passes and they didn't get their top-six time or PP time and no scouts came to talk to them. Keep working your ass off and earn your ice-time and good things will happen.

With a good attitude and hard work you can still make a name for yourself in NHL circles. Lipon basically clawed his way up the lineup year-by-year and embraced every opportunity to show what he had and has been very adaptable. Will be nice to see him rewarded with a contract.

montreal 10-17-2012 09:48 AM

I noticed him last night, was my first view of the Blazers this year to see Bozon in action but ended up being impressed with Lipon as well as the team overall. Would like to see the Blazers Memorial Cup bound.

Lonewolfe2015 10-17-2012 09:50 AM

Anyone know if it will be possible for the Avs to offer him a contract still like we would have been able to post-camp before the lockout?

jfb392 10-17-2012 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Lonewolfe2015 (Post 55058019)
Anyone know if it will be possible for the Avs to offer him a contract still like we would have been able to post-camp before the lockout?

Not sure, the usual rule is that they have to be given a try-out and signed prior to the start of the regular season.

I don't think he'll be going to camp though, as the only junior players allowed at camp are those specifically named by a team (list is limited to three players).
I can't seem to find it now but I'd guess the Avs list is Siemens and that's it.

jigglysquishy 10-17-2012 10:23 AM

I went to elementary school with the kid. Really makes you think. He was nothing special when we were 12 and now he's by far the best.

Lonewolfe2015 10-17-2012 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by jfb392 (Post 55058551)
Not sure, the usual rule is that they have to be given a try-out and signed prior to the start of the regular season.

I don't think he'll be going to camp though, as the only junior players allowed at camp are those specifically named by a team (list is limited to three players).
I can't seem to find it now but I'd guess the Avs list is Siemens and that's it.

We didn't include anyone from the CHL, Siemens will remain in the CHL because Saskatoon is hosting the Memorial Cup.

My reasoning behind the question is along the lines of the lockout preventing us from having camp and therefore preventing us from signing him.

If not, guess we have to hope he is willing to give us first crack at signing him if the NHL allows us or we draft him if he is prohibited from signing with us.

bsmith14 10-17-2012 10:58 AM

He only scored 3 goals in his draft year, pretty low numbers. Looks like a player now, if he keeps above 1.5ppg he could get taken in the 4th-7th rounds.

R S 10-17-2012 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lonewolfe2015 (Post 55058963)
We didn't include anyone from the CHL, Siemens will remain in the CHL because Saskatoon is hosting the Memorial Cup.

My reasoning behind the question is along the lines of the lockout preventing us from having camp and therefore preventing us from signing him.

If not, guess we have to hope he is willing to give us first crack at signing him if the NHL allows us or we draft him if he is prohibited from signing with us.

I believe he just meant Siemens would head to Colorado's training camp for a few days, not with the intention of sticking there all season.

jfb392 10-17-2012 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Lonewolfe2015 (Post 55058963)
We didn't include anyone from the CHL, Siemens will remain in the CHL because Saskatoon is hosting the Memorial Cup.

See below.

Quote:

My reasoning behind the question is along the lines of the lockout preventing us from having camp and therefore preventing us from signing him.

If not, guess we have to hope he is willing to give us first crack at signing him if the NHL allows us or we draft him if he is prohibited from signing with us.
I'm not sure if you'll be prevented from signing him or not.
It's not something anyone can be sure about until we see the new CBA.

Perhaps they'll let you since they don't necessarily have to be at camp to sign a deal.
The Sabres, for example, signed Andrey Makarov just before the lockout.
He hadn't been to camp obviously since it had not began, but they did extend a tryout to him, which gave them that ability.
Since you had made the offer prior to the lockout, maybe they'll give you a chance to follow through.
It also comes down to whether you want to sign him or not without evaluating him at your camp though..

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Originally Posted by Renegade Stylings (Post 55060013)
I believe he just meant Siemens would head to Colorado's training camp for a few days, not with the intention of sticking there all season.

Precisely.
Some teams put players on the list that are realistically longshots to make their team (like Dallas including Matej Stransky), but it's probably better to be safe and give themselves the option.
Since Siemens is the only CHL prospect that that the Avs have that would have a decent shot at making the team, I just guessed he'd be on the list.

Sticks and Pucks 10-17-2012 12:48 PM

Perhaps Lipon could be this year's Tanner Pearson? Hopefully he will get some consideration for the World Juniors though it would be tough to make the team if the lockout is still going on.

Lundface 10-17-2012 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bsmith14 (Post 55059555)
He only scored 3 goals in his draft year, pretty low numbers. Looks like a player now, if he keeps above 1.5ppg he could get taken in the 4th-7th rounds.

Gillis will take him far before that. See his selection of Mallet in the 2nd round last draft as proof. He loves these late bloomers.

S E P H 10-17-2012 01:53 PM

I am also curious if there is or (if) a rule about the players who were invited to training camps back in September. Is it frozen until they reach a deal or all the players rights now "open" to any team. Because as an Avs fan I would be kind of mad if this lockout made us have the inability to sign or take a look at Lipon who then would be selected early by another team in the draft.

bsmith14 10-17-2012 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lundface (Post 55063041)
Gillis will take him far before that. See his selection of Mallet in the 2nd round last draft as proof. He loves these late bloomers.

Dats true. For those who have seen him play, is he as good as a Tanner Pearson was last year?

GuillaumeLetsundress 10-17-2012 11:12 PM

2 goals 1 assist and a fight tonight... wow

jfb392 10-17-2012 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pheramone (Post 55076277)
2 goals 1 assist and a fight tonight... wow

And a 10 minute misconduct for not having his jersey strapped down. :laugh:

GodzillaDeuce 10-18-2012 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by jfb392 (Post 55076499)
And a 10 minute misconduct for not having his jersey strapped down. :laugh:

pretty much had to fight after that hit (Bozon or Smith, can't remember)

montreal 10-18-2012 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by GodzillaDeuce (Post 55079111)
pretty much had to fight after that hit (Bozon or Smith, can't remember)

It was Bozon that got hit, but good on Lipon to stand up for his linemate.

S E P H 10-18-2012 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by bsmith14 (Post 55065589)
Dats true. For those who have seen him play, is he as good as a Tanner Pearson was last year?

I don't think so, what Pearson had above Lipon is a nice frame, actually played a hard nose game and was a tough player to bump off the puck. Lipon is probably a faster and more creative player, but he doesn't have any of those strength's that Pearson had to warrant him a low 1st rounder. In any case I think Lipon might be a decent 5th round selection, but I could see a team gamble on him much higher like Avs did in 2012 with Heard in the second round.

Mike Farkas 10-19-2012 07:26 AM

I just wish Lipon had a little more top speed to separate himself from the pack a little better. He disrupts a good amount of plays, but he just doesn't have that next gear that allows him to blow past everyone...he's not a bad skater at all, that next gear would really sell me on him though, personally...

kyle44 10-20-2012 10:32 PM

Just to bump.. after tonights win Lipon now has 31 points (13 goals) in 13 games. His line mate, Avs draftee Colin Smith is on a roll as well. 29 points in 13 games

Leafs at Knight 10-20-2012 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by kyle44 (Post 55153135)
Just to bump.. after tonights win Lipon now has 31 points (13 goals) in 13 games. His line mate, Avs draftee Colin Smith is on a roll as well. 29 points in 13 games

Yea that's crazy, he has to be getting drafted this year. Kamloops are stacked though.


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