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Dustin Peener 10-19-2012 02:21 AM

Olympic pre-qualifiers (Japan)
 
Preliminary roster now on IIHF website

http://stats.iihf.com/Hydra/318/IHM3180GBR_32E_1_0.pdf

The two other teams are Romania and South Korea

Edit: Final roster announced

http://slapshotscotland.com/index.ph...gb-japan-dream

villevalo 10-19-2012 06:58 AM

4 EPL guys there :handclap:

Scarecrow Boat 10-19-2012 07:11 AM

Seems like 3 winnable games, no?

villevalo 10-19-2012 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam Thilander (Post 55109877)
Seems like 3 winnable games, no?

Japan will the the toughest one, the others will be hard too. But GB have a good chance.

As an aside, anyone know how many IIHF ranking points you get for a win, and how many you might get for winning a group such as this?

PuddlesTheDuck 10-19-2012 07:20 AM

Ah, I see Rod Sarich now qualifies, that's good.

Japan will be a very tough game, everyone seems to overlook them, but they're a pretty good team.

Dustin Peener 10-19-2012 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam Thilander (Post 55109877)
Seems like 3 winnable games, no?

Japan beat us in the WC's last year

stv11 10-19-2012 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by villevalo (Post 55109917)
As an aside, anyone know how many IIHF ranking points you get for a win, and how many you might get for winning a group such as this?

It depends on the team's position in the final olympic ranking. Teams playing in Sochi will be ranked 1st-12th (1200-900 pts), teams eliminated in the final qualification tournaments will be ranked 13th-21st (880-720 pts), team eliminated in the pre-qualification tournaments (the ones discussed here) will be ranked 22nd-30th (700-540 pts), while Mexico, Serbia and Israel will be ranked 31st, 32nd and 33rd.

Scarecrow Boat 10-20-2012 11:27 AM

You can toss this in the OP too:
http://www.iihf.com/channels1213/oqm/group-j.html

November 9th 2012 - Great Britain (21) vs. Korea (28)
November 10th 2012 - Great Britain (21) vs. Romania (27)
November 11th 2012 - Great Britain (21) vs. Japan (22)

EbencoyE 10-20-2012 04:35 PM

Too bad GB declined to host this. Might have drawn pretty well in the wake of the hype from the Summer Games.

Dustin Peener 10-20-2012 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EbencoyE (Post 55142625)
Too bad GB declined to host this. Might have drawn pretty well in the wake of the hype from the Summer Games.

It made far too much sense to host it, so therefore we didn't :shakehead

Dustin Peener 10-21-2012 06:48 AM

If Mattski has seen this, it is why you shouldn't use IIHF height measurements for Elite Prospects profiles. They've listed Stephen Murphy as 5'1" and Ben Bowns as 5'10" :laugh:

IIHFjerseycollector 10-21-2012 09:29 AM

japan is for sure GB's toughest opponent, but even south korea has a shot to win . im very excited for these qualification tournaments.

mattski93 10-21-2012 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 99 Problems (Post 55157573)
If Mattski has seen this, it is why you shouldn't use IIHF height measurements for Elite Prospects profiles. They've listed Stephen Murphy as 5'1" and Ben Bowns as 5'10" :laugh:

Only use them when there's nothing else available.

howeaboutthat 10-22-2012 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 99 Problems (Post 55142669)
It made far too much sense to host it, so therefore we didn't :shakehead

I think declining to host the Olympic pre-qualifiers is one of the few smart things IHUK have managed to do of late.

Unlike countries who host IIHF events, those who host Olympic events are not provided with any funding from central sources, which means IHUK would have had to fund the entire cost of hosting the pre-qualifiers from their own meagre funds. This includes all the costs associated with securing venues as well as all the costs incurred by the nations being hosted whilst in the UK, such as hotels, transport, food and other incidental expenses.

Of course the other issue is that, had the UK hosted this event, it is likely they'd have used the better venues available which would have meant Odyssey Arena, National Ice Centre and perhaps Braehead Arena. I can only imagine what the meltdown on THF would be like from such an 'EIHL arena bias', rather than using some dinky rinks where the presence of ice in all parts of the pad is never guaranteed.:naughty:

Maverick41 10-22-2012 01:28 AM

I don't know much about hockey in Britain, so I apologize if I am missing something obvious, but can anyone tell me why Joseph Lewis isn't on the roster? Won't his team in Germany let him play, or is he not good enough?

Based on his stats and on articles I have read, he is playing very well in Germany.

http://www.rodi-db.de/player.php?id=16299&setLang=EN

Dustin Peener 10-22-2012 03:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by howeaboutthat (Post 55180747)
I think declining to host the Olympic pre-qualifiers is one of the few smart things IHUK have managed to do of late.

Unlike countries who host IIHF events, those who host Olympic events are not provided with any funding from central sources, which means IHUK would have had to fund the entire cost of hosting the pre-qualifiers from their own meagre funds. This includes all the costs associated with securing venues as well as all the costs incurred by the nations being hosted whilst in the UK, such as hotels, transport, food and other incidental expenses.

Of course the other issue is that, had the UK hosted this event, it is likely they'd have used the better venues available which would have meant Odyssey Arena, National Ice Centre and perhaps Braehead Arena. I can only imagine what the meltdown on THF would be like from such an 'EIHL arena bias', rather than using some dinky rinks where the presence of ice in all parts of the pad is never guaranteed.:naughty:

I disagree. Financially it's probably the right decision but for the good of the sport it isn't, and it is short-term approaches like this from IHUK which has caused us to remain stagnant.

I reckon there would have been a pretty good turnout since we rarely get to see GB actually play at home. Especially during the hype of the Olympic year, with the right marketing this could have been a great success, and the sport would have picked up new fans and possibly some form of financial backing from sponsors or the government.

:laugh: as for the last thing you said, I've got to have another rant about planet ice. During my game yesterday in Basingstoke we had to stop the first period early because the ice was so low in one part it had reached the concrete underneath. So what do the genius rink staff do? That's right, they did a resurface :laugh: because of the dip in the ice on the bench side all the water just runs down to the boards, so it did no good whatsoever. They charge us astronomical prices for ice time and they can't even keep the ice in a playable condition.

Dustin Peener 10-22-2012 04:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maverick41 (Post 55181867)
I don't know much about hockey in Britain, so I apologize if I am missing something obvious, but can anyone tell me why Joseph Lewis isn't on the roster? Won't his team in Germany let him play, or is he not good enough?

Based on his stats and on articles I have read, he is playing very well in Germany.

http://www.rodi-db.de/player.php?id=16299&setLang=EN

I think it's a mix of he's not good enough, and the coaches haven't seen him play. The only forward on the roster I would take him over is Ben Davies, and he probably won't make the final cut.

Dustin Peener 10-24-2012 05:41 AM

final roster announced, OP updated

villevalo 10-24-2012 08:47 AM

Flames will miss Longstaff, top points scorer and is an annoyingly good captain.

Dustin Peener 10-24-2012 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by villevalo (Post 55239127)
Flames will miss Longstaff, top points scorer and is an annoyingly good captain.

Annoying to opposition fans, or annoying to refs? :laugh:

villevalo 10-24-2012 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 99 Problems (Post 55239161)
Annoying to opposition fans, or annoying to refs? :laugh:

Both :laugh:

Never shuts the hell up.

Also just noticed were playing Flames that weekend :D

Coatsy79 11-04-2012 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imaginary Threats (Post 55182991)
I disagree. Financially it's probably the right decision but for the good of the sport it isn't, and it is short-term approaches like this from IHUK which has caused us to remain stagnant.

I reckon there would have been a pretty good turnout since we rarely get to see GB actually play at home. Especially during the hype of the Olympic year, with the right marketing this could have been a great success, and the sport would have picked up new fans and possibly some form of financial backing from sponsors or the government.

:laugh: as for the last thing you said, I've got to have another rant about planet ice. During my game yesterday in Basingstoke we had to stop the first period early because the ice was so low in one part it had reached the concrete underneath. So what do the genius rink staff do? That's right, they did a resurface :laugh: because of the dip in the ice on the bench side all the water just runs down to the boards, so it did no good whatsoever. They charge us astronomical prices for ice time and they can't even keep the ice in a playable condition.

I'm assuming planet ice runs Basingstoke?! Sounds like something they would do

Scarecrow Boat 11-06-2012 05:36 PM

A) 99 Problems changed his name on here.

B) Is that Oregon from Fresh Meat as your avatar? (If so, hey look who gets more than Brit hockey references in Canada! lol)

C) Any idea if these games will be streamed anywhere? I'm going to guess all these games will be crazy early in the morning for me but I may catch a couple.

Shrimper 11-06-2012 05:52 PM

Was just reminded by AlanUK about this.

What are our expected hopes? Get to the final qualification phase?

Dustin Peener 11-06-2012 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shrimper (Post 55576357)
Was just reminded by AlanUK about this.

What are our expected hopes? Get to the final qualification phase?

Winning the group in Japan is definitely achievable but the game against the hosts will be very tough. There's absolutely no chance we qualify for the actual Olympics though.


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