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colchar 10-22-2012 12:08 PM

A Question About Trade Discussions During The Lockout
 
I've seen a few sources say that teams can talk to each other about trades during the lockout but, obviously, that nothing can be completed or announced until the new CBA is in place (this is mentioned in a lot of the articles about the alleged Luongo to the Leafs trade). I have also seen other sources which claim that teams are not allowed to discuss trades during the lockout (at least one article claimed that Gillis said this in response to the Luongo story). Does anyone here know which of these claims is true - can teams discuss trades during the lockout or are they forbidden from doing so until the new CBA is in place?

jumptheshark 10-22-2012 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by colchar (Post 55188069)
I've seen a few sources say that teams can talk to each other about trades during the lockout but, obviously, that nothing can be completed or announced until the new CBA is in place (this is mentioned in a lot of the articles about the alleged Luongo to the Leafs trade). I have also seen other sources which claim that teams are not allowed to discuss trades during the lockout (at least one article claimed that Gillis said this in response to the Luongo story). Does anyone here know which of these claims is true - can teams discuss trades during the lockout or are they forbidden from doing so until the new CBA is in place?

teams can talk trade--within moments of the last cba kicking in there were a few trades and most trades take a few days to work out. While teams can talk, they will not finalize a deal.

Leafs For Life* 10-22-2012 11:23 PM

Can they make trades? Yes. Will Bettman approve them? No.

jumptheshark 10-23-2012 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Leaffan16 (Post 55207149)
Can they make trades? Yes. Will Bettman approve them? No.

no the can not--this has been asked and answered a few times

Seachd 10-23-2012 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by jumptheshark (Post 55189045)
teams can talk trade--within moments of the last cba kicking in there were a few trades and most trades take a few days to work out. While teams can talk, they will not finalize a deal.

The first trade under the last CBA didn't happen until 5 days after it was ratified. The next trade was 2 days after that.

jumptheshark 10-23-2012 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Seachd (Post 55210635)
The first trade under the last CBA didn't happen until 5 days after it was ratified. The next trade was 2 days after that.

I thought there was a minor trade right after the CBA was signed and then a short time later things kicked off

jameswrjobe53 10-23-2012 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jumptheshark (Post 55213945)
I thought there was a minor trade right after the CBA was signed and then a short time later things kicked off

2004 Trades

June 18 To Anaheim : Tomas Malec, 2004 third round pick, To Carolina : Martin Gerber

June 25 To Dallas : Shawn Belle, To St.Louis : Jason Bacashihua

June 26 To Edmonton : 2004 second round pick, 2004 fourth round pick, To Phoenix : Jason Chimera, 2004 third round pick

June 26 To Ottawa : 2004 third round pick, To LA : Radek Bonk

June 26 To LA : Mathieu Garon, 2004 third round pick, To Montreal : Radek Bonk, Cristobal Huet

June 26 To Atlanta : Niclas Havelid, To Anaheim : Kurtis Foster

June 27 To LA : Stephane Quintal, To Montreal : future considerations

June 27 To Ottawa : conditional 2005 fourth round pick, To St. Louis : Patrick Lalime

June 27 To Atlanta : Adam Berkhoel, To Chicago : future considerations

June 29 To Dallas : Jaroslav Svoboda, To Carolina : 2005 fourth round pick

July 6 To Phoenix : 2005 fourth round pick, To Columbus : Radoslav Suchy, 2005 sixth round pick

August 16 To Anaheim : 2005 second round pick, To Tampa Bay : Vaclav Prospal

August 26 To Calgary : Daymond Langkow, To Phoenix : Denis Gauthier, Oleg Saprykin

2005 Trades

July 1 To Tampa Bay : Jason Jaspers, To Phoenix : Jarrod Skalde

July 27 To Anaheim : Todd Fedoruk, To Philadelphia : 2005 second round pick

July 27 To Nashville : Darcy Hordichuk, To Florida : 2005 fourth round pick

July 29 To Carolina : Mike Commodore, To Calgary : 2005 third round pick

July 29 To Nashville : 2005 third round pick, To Carolina : Andrew Hutchinson

July 30 To Carolina : Derrick Walser, 2006 fourth round pick, To Columbus : 2005 fourth round pick

July 30 To Toronto : Jeff O'Neill, To Carolina : 2006 conditional fourth round pick

July 30 To Anaheim : Travis Moen, To Chicago : Mikael Holmqvist

July 30 To Buffalo : Tim Kennedy, To Washington : 2006 sixth round pick

July 30 To Atlanta : Shane Hnidy, To Nashville : 2006 fourth round pick

July 30 To Minnesota : Todd White, To Ottawa : 2005 fourth round pickGauthier, Oleg Saprykin

FAMOUSfin 10-24-2012 07:46 AM

Gillis can't make a Luongo trade because he needs Luongo to waive his NTC and he's not allowed to talk to Luongo.


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