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Hockey Buff 10-22-2012 01:27 PM

2013 U17 Hockey Challenge Team Quebec
 
From another site:
Faite votre équipe des moins de 17ans équipe Québec (What does your line-up look like)

G Billia
G Bureau

D Léveille
D Bahl
D Neil
D Carrier
D Scott
D Maheux

A Audette
A Ayotte
A Perron
A Nantel
A Simard
A Deslile-Houde
A Richard
A Aube-Kubel
A Auger
A Deslauriers
A Hébert
A Pépin

IHaveNoCreativity 10-22-2012 03:52 PM

G Billia
G Bouchard

D Léveille
D Bahl
D Neil
D Carrier
D Scott
D Roy

A Audette
A Ayotte
A Perron
A Nantel
A Simard
A Deslile-Houde
A Richard
A Aube-Kubel
A Sprong
A Beauviller
A Hébert
A Pépin


Maybe Samson creeps in there.

Hockey Buff 10-22-2012 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IHaveNoCreativity (Post 55194271)
G Billia
G Bouchard

D Léveille
D Bahl
D Neil
D Carrier
D Scott
D Roy

A Audette
A Ayotte
A Perron
A Nantel
A Simard
A Deslile-Houde
A Richard
A Aube-Kubel
A Sprong
A Beauviller
A Hébert
A Pépin


Maybe Samson creeps in there.

I am not sure about Simard or Sprong..last year only Audette was the underager and he had a hard time. Deslauriers will be there too...he was HQ's pick at camp.

I think Leblanc is a lock and don't forget Laliberte in PEI on D.

It'll be tough to get the right mix of skill and toughness in the lineup. They will be facing a stacked O team.

IHaveNoCreativity 10-22-2012 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hockey Buff (Post 55196245)
I am not sure about Simard or Sprong..last year only Audette was the underager and he had a hard time. Deslauriers will be there too...he was HQ's pick at camp.

I think Leblanc is a lock and don't forget Laliberte in PEI on D.

It'll be tough to get the right mix of skill and toughness in the lineup. They will be facing a stacked O team.

I'm not too familiar with everyone, but yes Leblance should be there.

Roy, Sprong and Beauviller are Q players now, I think that Sprong and Beauviller are better then Audette at the same age.

welcometothebigshow2 10-22-2012 07:27 PM

Bureau
Billia

Leblanc-Leveille
Maheux-Carrier
Neill-Bahl
7th: J. Roy

Pépin-Audette-Ayotte
Hebert-AubeKubel-Perron
Nantel-Richard-Deslauriers
Gagne-Auger-Lemieux
13th : Beauviller

This team is very deep. A tremendous top six, a good, solid third line, and a energizing, physical fourth line. Their D is incredible, I would go as far as saying all 7 guys would be top pairing guys on Team Atlantic, and if there's one thing that may effect holding this team back, I personally think it may just be the goalies. Both have potential to steal a game, but there is a ton of better goalies from all over better than both. I think they should be a competitor this year, especially with the tournament being in Quebec.

IHaveNoCreativity 10-22-2012 08:04 PM

How is team Atlantic looking ?

hab 4ever 10-23-2012 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by IHaveNoCreativity (Post 55197329)
I'm not too familiar with everyone, but yes Leblance should be there.

Roy, Sprong and Beauviller are Q players now, I think that Sprong and Beauviller are better then Audette at the same age.

All antics aside, I believe Sprong is a tad overrated and definitely a notch below Beauvilier who is playing even better than anyone expected this year. This team is (shockingly for Team Québec) really solid on defense but weak in net. Not very confident regarding second-line scoring in that tournament either.

hab 4ever 10-23-2012 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by welcometothebigshow2 (Post 55199715)
Bureau
Billia

Leblanc-Leveille
Maheux-Carrier
Neill-Bahl
7th: J. Roy

Pépin-Audette-Ayotte
Hebert-AubeKubel-Perron
Nantel-Richard-Deslauriers
Gagne-Auger-Lemieux
13th : Beauviller

This team is very deep. A tremendous top six, a good, solid third line, and a energizing, physical fourth line. Their D is incredible, I would go as far as saying all 7 guys would be top pairing guys on Team Atlantic, and if there's one thing that may effect holding this team back, I personally think it may just be the goalies. Both have potential to steal a game, but there is a ton of better goalies from all over better than both. I think they should be a competitor this year, especially with the tournament being in Quebec.

Solid lineup but I see Roy playing much more than 7th defenseman role given how he is probably the best 97-born defenceman in Canada at this point and how he actually outplayed both Carrier and Bahl on the Midget AAA Gaulois team last year as an underrager.

IHaveNoCreativity 10-23-2012 04:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hab 4ever (Post 55209361)
All antics aside, I believe Sprong is a tad overrated and definitely a notch below Beauvilier who is playing even better than anyone expected this year. This team is (shockingly for Team Québec) really solid on defense but weak in net. Not very confident regarding second-line scoring in that tournament either.

He's still good enough to be there.

Hockey Buff 10-23-2012 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IHaveNoCreativity (Post 55210179)
He's still good enough to be there.

I am not sure Sprong is ready. He would need to be a top 6 player to be affective and I feel there are 6 ahead of him on this team. He will be a leader on this team next year.

IHaveNoCreativity 10-23-2012 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hockey Buff (Post 55211569)
I am not sure Sprong is ready. He would need to be a top 6 player to be affective and I feel there are 6 ahead of him on this team. He will be a leader on this team next year.

I think he could help them now. Either in a top 6 or bottom 6 role.

Hockey Buff 10-23-2012 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IHaveNoCreativity (Post 55215861)
I think he could help them now. Either in a top 6 or bottom 6 role.

He has talent but I am not sure he'd accept a bottom 6 role. Another important point is that he has been "overlooked" for every Hockey Quebec team to date. I doubt they(HQ) start now by inserting an underaged player.

IHaveNoCreativity 10-23-2012 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hockey Buff (Post 55217435)
He has talent but I am not sure he'd accept a bottom 6 role. Another important point is that he has been "overlooked" for every Hockey Quebec team to date. I doubt they(HQ) start now by inserting an underaged player.

Well there should be 2, I see your point but they are part of the reason he's back in QC.

welcometothebigshow2 10-23-2012 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hab 4ever (Post 55209377)
Solid lineup but I see Roy playing much more than 7th defenseman role given how he is probably the best 97-born defenceman in Canada at this point and how he actually outplayed both Carrier and Bahl on the Midget AAA Gaulois team last year as an underrager.

I have him as 7th D, because the others will have Q experience, and well that's obviously a bonus in this tournament, not to mention that 5 of 6 of the others were first rounders, and Maheux (2nd rounder) may just be the best... All around anyways. Obviously guys will move up, down, and injuries will happen but this is how I see it now.

Galchenyuk x 27 10-23-2012 02:55 PM

Having seen sprong and beauvillier play on multiple occasions there is No way I can sit here and not reply the comment said earlier.
Beauvillier is a great hockey player don't get me wrong, but to say he is better than sprong is complete rubbish. He is not a notch above Daniel at all. In fact I'd say Daniel is a notch ahead.

Daniel was never part of a hockey Quebec team for the same reason he wasn't allowed to play AAA or espoir

hab 4ever 10-23-2012 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by x6 Pacioretty 7x (Post 55220641)
Having seen sprong and beauvillier play on multiple occasions there is No way I can sit here and not reply the comment said earlier.
Beauvillier is a great hockey player don't get me wrong, but to say he is better than sprong is complete rubbish. He is not a notch above Daniel at all. In fact I'd say Daniel is a notch ahead.

Agree to disagree :-). Beauvilier has improved tremendously since last year, is dominating Midget AAA as a rookie on a rather weak team and sure played better than Sprong at All-Canadians.

IHaveNoCreativity 10-23-2012 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hab 4ever (Post 55224331)
Agree to disagree :-). Beauvilier has improved tremendously since last year, is dominating Midget AAA as a rookie on a rather weak team and sure played better than Sprong at All-Canadians.

CAG are solid and well coached.. It helps that he's got Jeremie Roy leading the breakout.

hab 4ever 10-23-2012 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IHaveNoCreativity (Post 55224515)
CAG are solid and well coached.. It helps that he's got Jeremie Roy leading the breakout.

They do have a solid coaching staff and churn out good Q prospects every year but they are not solid this year. Before the season, their coach said he hoped the youngsters helped carry the team to a middle of the pack finish since they lost so many key players who would have been dominating 96s (Carrier, NAK, Bahl, Ayotte and Ratelle) and 95s (Paquin-Boudreau and goalie Desrosiers) this season. Right now, they are 6-7-2 good for 11th out of 15 despite having by far the top two 97s born players in the league (Roy and Beauvilier). I guess we emphasize top prospects so much as QMJHL/NHL fans that we forget Midget AAA is actually a league dominated by 16 and 17 years old, not 15 years old.

IHaveNoCreativity 10-23-2012 08:44 PM

Still solid, they'll come together.

HockeyFever1987 10-23-2012 09:02 PM

The way I see it, the top 9 is locked but interchangeable...

Pepin- Deslauriers- Audette
Ayotte- Richard- Perron
Hebert- Nantel- AubeKubel
X - X - X
Beauvillier

Upfront, I see the whole fourth line being wide open. I think it will be filled with guys from Midget AAA. I guess guys that are playing well but are able to play fourth line. That's the only reason, I see Samson not sticking on the fourth. Someone else mentioned, Lemieux- Auger- Gagne, I don't see Lemieux or Gagne making it, both are really below average in AAA for the start of the season. I would take Desjardins over Lemieux in a heartbeat but I don't think Desjardins should be there either.


Anyone know how the AAA guys are doing? Anyone standing out that can play fourth line and maybe make the jump to third, if that line isn't playing well?

On D, like someone else mentioned....

Leblanc- Leveille
Neil-Carrier
Bahl- Maheux
Roy

IHaveNoCreativity 10-23-2012 09:21 PM

Samson-Sprong-Beauvillier.

HockeyFever1987 10-23-2012 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IHaveNoCreativity (Post 55231533)
Samson-Sprong-Beauvillier.

Clearly you just skipped over my post.....

IHaveNoCreativity 10-23-2012 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HockeyFever1987 (Post 55232253)
Clearly you just skipped over my post.....

No, I'd just have that as a line..

Not sure who my 13th would be..

Cussons and Sukamaran are looking good... Could find better players though.

HockeyFever1987 10-23-2012 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IHaveNoCreativity (Post 55233607)
No, I'd just have that as a line..

Not sure who my 13th would be..

Cussons and Sukamaran are looking good... Could find better players though.

Sorry I thought it was reply to my post. The line you mentioned would be an offensive dynamo but I don't see any of then playing top 6. Would they be effective in a checking line, I doubt it. The players you mentioned have to be able to play bottom six minutes, do they fit a fourth line mole because the top nine look locked. That leaves three sports for guys playing Midget AAA...

Remember, guys playing in the LMJHQ don't all get minutes, some might have not developed at all from the start of the season... and might have been better off in AAA

Hockey Buff 10-24-2012 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HockeyFever1987 (Post 55230813)
The way I see it, the top 9 is locked but interchangeable...

Pepin- Deslauriers- Audette
Ayotte- Richard- Perron
Hebert- Nantel- AubeKubel
X - X - X
Beauvillier

Upfront, I see the whole fourth line being wide open. I think it will be filled with guys from Midget AAA. I guess guys that are playing well but are able to play fourth line. That's the only reason, I see Samson not sticking on the fourth. Someone else mentioned, Lemieux- Auger- Gagne, I don't see Lemieux or Gagne making it, both are really below average in AAA for the start of the season. I would take Desjardins over Lemieux in a heartbeat but I don't think Desjardins should be there either.


Anyone know how the AAA guys are doing? Anyone standing out that can play fourth line and maybe make the jump to third, if that line isn't playing well?

On D, like someone else mentioned....

Leblanc- Leveille
Neil-Carrier
Bahl- Maheux
Roy

I agree with your top 9 and thought on the 4th. On another board I wrote that Imamma would be a solid 4th liner for this team. I also agree that the remaining spots will be midget AAA players that will fill them.


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