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Puckgenius* 11-03-2012 01:36 AM

Bobby Ryan To Washington
 
To WSH: Ryan
To ANA: Johansson + Beagle + 1st

Caps get a top line RW who would replace Semin one for one and would fit in with Ovechkin and Backstrom.

Ducks get a young top 2 centre who would replace Koivu when he retires, good energy player to give them some depth and first.

Corey Perry* 11-03-2012 01:39 AM

No from Anaheim

HockeyFan100 11-03-2012 01:53 AM

Ovie and Ryan on the same line.... Crazy. But Ducks won't do this. Ryan is staying in Anahiem or Brian Burke will find a way to get him in Toronto (and maybe Getzlaf, Perry, and Hiller too)

Reverend Mayhem 11-03-2012 01:54 AM

You gotta throw in someone a bit better than Beagle if this deal is done.

um 11-03-2012 01:56 AM

caps cant really afford this, if they could they probably just resigned semin

Gibson Les Palms 11-03-2012 02:33 AM

Not a chance.

The Brewmeister 11-03-2012 03:54 AM

Do Beagle's teeth come too?

I don't see Anaheim accepting this.

PierreMcGuire* 11-03-2012 04:25 AM

Bad for the Ducks.

Jack de la Hoya 11-03-2012 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puckgenius (Post 55483077)
To WSH: Ryan
To ANA: Johansson + Beagle + 1st

Caps get a top line RW who would replace Semin one for one and would fit in with Ovechkin and Backstrom.

Ducks get a young top 2 centre who would replace Koivu when he retires, good energy player to give them some depth and first.

Johansson is probably one of two pieces that would have to go, but I'd assume that Kuznetsov or Forsberg would also have to go (perhaps with the 1st dropped to a 2nd).

Or a deal around one of the Caps young defenseman +

Exit Dose 11-03-2012 09:17 AM

No. We can't afford to lose a LW.

MalcontentCapsFan 11-03-2012 11:46 AM

Probably closer to MJ90+Orlov+(2nd or Tom Wilson)

That's a top 6 young forward, a top four young Dman and a 2nd or power forward prospect for a top line power forward.

Exit Dose 11-03-2012 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MalcontentCapsFan (Post 55487483)
Probably closer to MJ90+Orlov+(2nd or Tom Wilson)

That's a top 6 young forward, a top four young Dman and a 2nd or power forward prospect for a top line power forward.

While I understand the thought process here is looking at value, the problem is that Anaheim doesn't have a need for any of those things or at least a need that would require dealing Ryan.

fedfed 11-03-2012 11:57 AM

Done.
Quote:

Or a deal around one of the Caps young defenseman +
Not a chance, we don't have surplus of defensemen.
What about Johansson, Wilson and a first?

Marvelous Manked 11-03-2012 01:32 PM

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No from Anaheim.

Paul4587 11-03-2012 06:33 PM

No chance.

MuffinMan 11-03-2012 08:24 PM

What if we replace Beagle with Kuznetsov? Would the ducks consider it then?
If not, realistically what would it take?

Fuelled by Passion 11-03-2012 08:37 PM

The only question if Kuznetsov come to the NHL. And if he comes I would see more of a trade like this Bobby Ryan + for Kuznetsov

Ducks DVM 11-03-2012 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fuelled by Passion (Post 55500267)
The only question if Kuznetsov come to the NHL. And if he comes I would see more of a trade like this Bobby Ryan + for Kuznetsov

When a perennial 30 goal scorer on a bargain contract is traded for a prospect, you don't add to the proven NHL player.

Sojourn 11-03-2012 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fuelled by Passion (Post 55500267)
The only question if Kuznetsov come to the NHL. And if he comes I would see more of a trade like this Bobby Ryan + for Kuznetsov

You might just be rating Kuznetsov a little highly. Just a bit...

Exit Dose 11-03-2012 08:53 PM

LOL, guys we're not desperate for prospects. Right now, we need to have a season before we have any idea what our needs are. Though I will say, 'please, no' to any defensemen. We're good.

Hivemind 11-03-2012 09:06 PM

Caps can't afford to trade Johansson right now. If Ribeiro fits well and is extended, then the possibility is opened.

Fuelled by Passion 11-03-2012 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sojourn (Post 55500805)
You might just be rating Kuznetsov a little highly. Just a bit...

Maybe, or maybe not. I've seen what he has done to Team Canada in 2 junior WC. I have seen him play, saw his potential, besides he is C. And what is that about Boby Ryan that should fetch super return? He is 60-65 point winger who is brilliant in offense and not responsible enough defensively. Just my 2 cents. Semin for example put more points in average then Ryan

Sojourn 11-03-2012 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fuelled by Passion (Post 55501509)
Maybe, or maybe not. I've seen what he has done to Team Canada in 2 junior WC. I have seen him play, saw his potential, besides he is C. And what is that about Boby Ryan that should fetch super return? He is 60-65 point winger who is brilliant in offense and not responsible enough defensively. Just my 2 cents. Semin for example put more points in average then Ryan

There is no maybe about it. Bobby Ryan has 4 straight 30 goal seasons, without 1st unit PP time. To suggest Anaheim would have to add in a deal for Kuznetsov is insane.

DohBruins 11-03-2012 09:22 PM

They don't make very good trading partners. Anaheim's need is a true #2 center. They will want more than Johansson, and because they are giving up Bobby Ryan, they're gonna want more than him.

The Bruins and the Ducks are always gonna be the best partners when it comes to Ryan, and if Ryan gets traded the first place I will guess is Boston.

DohBruins 11-03-2012 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sojourn (Post 55501647)
There is no maybe about it. Bobby Ryan has 4 straight 30 goal seasons, without 1st unit PP time. To suggest Anaheim would have to add in a deal for Kuznetsov is insane.

Washington would have to add imo.


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