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Tyler Durden 11-05-2012 06:30 PM

Question about contracts due to lockout
 
With the lockout does that mean that a player loses a year off their contract if there is no hockey this year? Lets say John Doe has 3 years left on his contract and this season there is no hockey does that mean next year if there is a season he has only 2 years left?

Paranoid Android 11-05-2012 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyler Durden (Post 55547319)
With the lockout does that mean that a player loses a year off their contract if there is no hockey this year? Lets say John Doe has 3 years left on his contract and this season there is no hockey does that mean next year if there is a season he has only 2 years left?

Correct. Every player loses a year on their contract.

Krishna 11-05-2012 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Paranoid Android (Post 55547639)
Correct. Every player loses a year on their contract.

Actually no. It would depend on the CBA transitional terms. In the 2004-05 Lockout, that was one thing that was included in the CBA. There's no guarantee to happen again.

kdb209 11-05-2012 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Paranoid Android (Post 55547639)
Correct. Every player loses a year on their contract.

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Originally Posted by Krishna (Post 55551105)
Actually no. It would depend on the CBA transitional terms. In the 2004-05 Lockout, that was one thing that was included in the CBA. There's no guarantee to happen again.

Unless there is explicit language to the contrary in the CBA, all SPCs will age and burn a year.

The transition rules of Exhibit 16 were silent on the issue (except for ELS SPCs), so all non-ELS SPCs burned a year.

The "slide" provisions for ELS SPCs were modified - all SPCs which slid in '03-'04 and any new SPCs which commenced in '04-'05 were deemed to have slid in '04-'05.

MapleLeafsFan4Ever 11-13-2012 04:23 PM

Legal Look: Do players lose contract year on a lost season?
 
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=409424

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If a full season is lost to a lockout, a player loses that entire year on his contract even though no hockey is ever played. That means that a lost year does not somehow carry over to the following year. The year is gone; the money is gone.

The reason goes back to how a player contract is structured (or as it's called, a Standard Player's Contract or its short form, SPC). When a player signs a contract, he agrees that each contract year is counted as a "League Year". Under the CBA, a "League Year" is defined as July 1 of one year to June 30 of the next year.

LadyStanley 11-13-2012 04:37 PM

And to reiterate kdb... how contracts are handled is negotiated as part of the CBA transition (should there be a full complete season lost).

ES 11-13-2012 04:38 PM

How about player like Yakupov? Does him playing in KHL count as slide which comes into effect when not playing enough NHL games?

mouser 11-13-2012 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ES (Post 55742859)
How about player like Yakupov? Does him playing in KHL count as slide which comes into effect when not playing enough NHL games?

Would depend on the new CBA's transition rules. Under the past CBA transition rules all rookie contracts like Yakupov's that would have commenced in the canceled 2004-2005 season slid.

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CBA Exhibit 16, 4(a)
For purposes of determining "slides" for the 2004-05 cancelled season, the
following rules shall apply: (1) All Entry Level SPCs that "slid" in 2003-04, will
be deemed to have "slid" for 2004-05; (2) All Entry Level SPCs that did not
"slide" in 2003-04, will be deemed not to have "slid" in 2004-05; and (3) All
Entry Level SPCs entered into prior to the expiration of the Expired CBA, with a
term scheduled to commence with the 2004-05 season, will be deemed to have
"slid" for 2004-05.

ES 11-14-2012 03:22 AM

So is it like (with current player examples):

(1) Zibanejad: Slide
(2) RNH: No slide
(3) Yakupov: Slide

GordonGraham 11-14-2012 05:28 PM

So if we lose the whole season who will be become UFA july 1st with their old team not even getting the chance to talk to them

rojac 11-14-2012 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GordonGraham (Post 55769169)
So if we lose the whole season who will be become UFA july 1st with their old team not even getting the chance to talk to them

If they agree to transitional rules similar to the ones used after the 2004-05 lockout, then teams will have some time to negotiate with their own players before they become UFAs.

All of the rules for the 2004-05 transition are in exhibit 16 of the 2005 CBA available on the NHL web site: http://www.nhl.com/cba/2005-CBA.pdf.


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