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Anthrax442 11-06-2012 12:40 PM

Poll about the future NHL team in Toronto/ Markham
 
Question is simple, but it's directed at the dieheart Leaf fans. If an announcement came down tomorrow that there will be another team in Toronto/ Markham, and the season tickets are on sale, would you buy the season tickets for the whatever other team will be in the city?

ACC1224 11-06-2012 12:42 PM

It's not a simple yes or no when you don't know what they will cost.

Anthrax442 11-06-2012 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ACC1224 (Post 55565527)
It's not a simple yes or no when you don't know what they will cost.

They will cost pretty much the same as the Leafs tickets. (Toronto market value)

headwire 11-06-2012 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthrax442 (Post 55566061)
They will cost pretty much the same as the Leafs tickets. (Toronto market value)

I disagree that the market value for a new team in Markham would be the same as the Leafs. Market value would be certainly be higher than other start up locations as there is already a market for hockey in the GTA, but I seriously doubt that they'd be able to get away with charging the same prices as MLSE for season tickets.

Happy Fan 11-06-2012 02:31 PM

Why direct this question to diehard leaf fans? Kinda redundant, no?
But the majority of posters can't afford season tix anyways so that's another layer of redundancy.

BUT, I'd buy a ticket to a leafs game there.

Leafs For Life* 11-06-2012 02:33 PM

should have had these as choices. And diehards wouldn't so should just say leaffans.
Dont have the money
Depends on price

Terrence 11-06-2012 02:34 PM

No, because I don't live in Toronto.

Stats01 11-06-2012 02:43 PM

I don't care how much they cost, could be 2 bucks for all I care, I'm not buying season tickets to a team that I'm going to naturally hate being a Leaf fan.

Real Leaf fans know what I'm talking about. If you're a Leaf fan and you're buying season tickets to a natural rival then you should be labelled a bandwagoner.

It would be like a Rangers fan buying season tickets to watch the Islanders or the Devils. The people in Markham should and will buy season tickets

-DeMo- 11-06-2012 02:43 PM

according to ESPN, the average NHL price across the board is $57 Leafs average price is $123 Edmonton has the 4th highest ticket at $70 so if it was around 70 which makes sense based on the numbers I would go to a game or two

legendinblue 11-06-2012 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terrence (Post 55568795)
No, because I don't live in Toronto.

Same, but even if I did my answer is no.

pooleboy 11-06-2012 03:10 PM

i said no. But it would really matter in the next couple years, if the Leafs dont become respectable then would have to re-evaluate.

MeowLeafs 11-06-2012 03:59 PM

No because I wouldn't be able to afford them.

Would I watch them on TV and cheer for them? Yes. Leafs would remain my #1 though obviously.

416Leafer 11-06-2012 04:00 PM

The way I see it, is that UNTIL a new team does arrive, nobody is going to admit that they would switch allegiences. Why risk getting painted as a non-loyal fan for saying support for some hypothetical future franchise?

I'm not from Toronto. I actually currently live here (been here 1 year), but grew up in Ottawa. I've been a Leafs fan since I was ~4 years old. I don't think I will end up settling down in the GTA, I will likely move back to Ottawa.

But for those people who DO live in the GTA, especially in the York/Markham/Vaughn/etc region. I could see reasons for switching teams.
1 - It's a business. The Toronto Maple Leafs are part of a mega-corporation. They don't really care about their fans, they care about their fans money. Nostalgia and historic moments? Those are products they use to help sell the team to the fans.
2 - Ease of access to the new arena. You want to get all the way downtown and back? Or to an arena a reasonably short drive away in the suburbs? It would be your "local" team.
3 - Cost of tickets / accessibility of tickets. I'm sure the tickets would still be pricey, but not AS pricey as Leaf tickets. They would also have seasons tickets for sale, which there's a ridiculous waiting list for right now for the Leafs
4 - If you have small kids. Maybe they grow up as Markham fans, so you consider switching loyalty for them.
5 - Toronto has sucked for years. Maybe the team that moves into Markham is a relocation team that's already a playoff team? Has more players you like? Etc

There are probably a few other reasons. But I have two main points:
1 - I won't switch allegiances, because most of the points I made refer to direct benefits you would get from being somebody living in the GTA. I plan on moving away within ~1-3 years, so it shouldn't apply to me.
2 - Nobody is going to admit at the moment that they would switch allegiances. But people obviously will, there's no question about that. I think most people would stay Leafs fans, but a new GTA team WOULD get fans, and probably a pretty strong following (relatively speaking to the rest of the league, not compared to the Leafs).

RealisticLeaf55 11-06-2012 04:52 PM

I say Yes to having another team in/near T.O! What not a better way to light a fire under MLSE's and Burke's !@@ then to have another Canadian team campaign for the cup. Also a new arena and new team means more jobs and makes Gary Bettman even angrier. Hell we need a team in Manitoba and Nova Scotia, oh and Saskatchewan. Oh and another team in Montreal. The more Canadian teams, the better.

Donmega 11-06-2012 05:42 PM

Depends on 2 things. The price of the pass and the roster / team that is moved. If it the cost would be leafs high then no way either way.

Aplayaz2000 11-06-2012 06:06 PM

supporting two teams equally is just weird

GordieHoweHatTrick 11-07-2012 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anthrax442 (Post 55566061)
They will cost pretty much the same as the Leafs tickets. (Toronto market value)

Pretty much, only difference is the black market for Maple Leafs tickets will be hurt and I'm all for that!

Pyrophorus 11-07-2012 08:41 PM

I lived in a city which had an expansion team. I loved to laugh at them, but I never really cared
about them. 20 years later I hate them, and love that never really did much, but I believe that I'll
feel this way about the new team, and I think many Leaf fans will feel the same way.

Eb 11-07-2012 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pooleboy (Post 55570031)
i said no. But it would really matter in the next couple years, if the Leafs dont become respectable then would have to re-evaluate.

Bandwagoner ^

BayStBullies 11-08-2012 12:18 AM

So we're supposed to answer this question without knowing the roster of this team; or the price of the tickets?

Sorry, you can't just say they would cost the same as Leafs tickets. That makes no sense.

This thread has no merit or purpose. You should think it through a little more next time.

Disgruntled Observer* 11-08-2012 12:27 AM

As an expansion team, they would already be about as good as Burke's team after an entire four year rebuild.
So yeah...
I would definitely go to some games.

I'm a fan of nhl hockey. It's probably going to be easier to get tickets there... so why not?

It would also create a very entertaining rivalry.\
How much of the crowd would be wearing leaf jersey's at every game? Probably most. Even after years and years...

stakesishigh 11-08-2012 12:55 AM

There's enough traffic in Markham as it is.

Urban Explorer* 11-08-2012 01:08 AM

I don't know why everyone thinks Markham is a good location? It's the 2nd smallest area population wise in the GTA. It's too far east. Most people are Asian immigrants who don't even watch hockey. There's way more people and hockey fans in the Mississauga, Brampton area, and probably even more in Hamilton. Markham has horrible access via highways with virtually only one highway (404) going any where near it. Sure there's the 407, but who want's to have to pay those highway robbers.

I think Hamilton is the best option weighing in ease of highway access and fan base.

Four1 Lead 11-08-2012 03:25 AM

The new arena would be a 10-15 minute drive from my house.

I wouldn't buy season tickets because I bleed blue and white but I would definitely cheer for the team.

Anyone know if a new NHL team in Markham would raise real estate prices?

:sarcasm:

416Leafer 11-08-2012 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Urban Explorer (Post 55615385)
I don't know why everyone thinks Markham is a good location? It's the 2nd smallest area population wise in the GTA. It's too far east. Most people are Asian immigrants who don't even watch hockey. There's way more people and hockey fans in the Mississauga, Brampton area, and probably even more in Hamilton. Markham has horrible access via highways with virtually only one highway (404) going any where near it. Sure there's the 407, but who want's to have to pay those highway robbers.

I think Hamilton is the best option weighing in ease of highway access and fan base.

My opinion is that you could add another team to the central GTA (Markham) and another to Hamilton and both would be viable.

Hamilton can draw from Burlington, Niagara, St. Catherines, Brantfors, K-W, Guelph, etc. thats a larger population to draw from then what Ottawa, Winnipeg, Calgary, and Edmonton have.

Markham can draw from Scarborough, Brampton, Mississauaga, Vaughn, Ajax, etc. Markham is a little East, but if you add Hamilton then that covers a lot of the Western areas.


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