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thestonedkoala 11-06-2012 12:53 PM

Pit/min
 
To Pittsburgh:
Zack Phillips

To Minnesota:
Scott Harrington

Reason Pittsburgh does this:
Phillips is a good center and would fill in nicely on the 3rd line for Pittsburgh. He has a good array of tools and is a solid hockey player. He's buried currently behind Larsson, Koivu, and Granlund for the center position and we have a lot of talented forwards currently. We can at least lose on.

Reason Minnesota does this:
Phillips I think is the odd man out and right now, we need a few more projected defensemen. While Harrington is in London, he should be eligible for the AHL next year, which is where we'll need a few defensemen. Our defense also tends to get banged up. Brodin was a fluke but Scandella had a wrist injury, Fredheim is injured, Medvec is injured. It's ugly on our blueline and we could use a few more bodies in the future.

Roo Mad Bro 11-06-2012 01:01 PM

I would imagine the Wild would be more interested in Despres/Maatta/Dumoulin at the cost of Phillips.

MonsterSurge 11-06-2012 01:04 PM

Who is this guy and why do we need another center?

thestonedkoala 11-06-2012 01:04 PM

I would think so but I think Pittsburgh holds them in higher regards.

Roo Mad Bro 11-06-2012 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonsterSurge (Post 55566183)
Who is this guy and why do we need another center?

2011 1st round draft pick.

Playerwinner 11-06-2012 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the8bandarmadillo (Post 55565837)
To Pittsburgh:



Reason Pittsburgh does this:
Phillips is a good center and would fill in nicely on the 3rd line for Pittsburgh. He has a good array of tools and is a solid hockey player. He's buried currently behind Larsson, Koivu, and Granlund for the center position and we have a lot of talented forwards currently.

Sidney Crosby, Evgeni Malkin, Brandon Sutter.

SupermanPahlsson 11-06-2012 01:45 PM

At what price can the Ducks take Zack Phillips off of Minny's hands?

thestonedkoala 11-06-2012 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SupermanPahlsson (Post 55567291)
At what price can the Ducks take Zack Phillips off of Minny's hands?

defensemen...

MonsterSurge 11-06-2012 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Playerwinner (Post 55566993)
Sidney Crosby, Evgeni Malkin, Brandon Sutter.

Then, you have Joe Vitale down there too. We don't need another center, but you're more than welcome to take Craig Adams! :help:

wej20 11-06-2012 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonsterSurge (Post 55566183)
Who is this guy and why do we need another center?

I'm sure he's played a fair amount of wing and he has always been talked about as a player who might end up as a winger at the NHL Level.

nickschultzfan 11-06-2012 02:53 PM

NOOOOOOOOOOOO.

Phillips is going to be awesome for the Wild when he eventually gets to the NHL.

SupermanPahlsson 11-06-2012 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the8bandarmadillo (Post 55567505)
defensemen...

Welinski straight-up for Phillips?

Minnesota gets their hometown, UMD-product OFD, while Anaheim gets a C/W prospect.

Roo Mad Bro 11-06-2012 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SupermanPahlsson (Post 55569653)
Welinski straight-up for Phillips?

Minnesota gets their hometown, UMD-product OFD, while Anaheim gets a C/W prospect.

Terrible for the Wild.

Phillips was a 2011 1st round pick (28th overall).

Welinski was a 2011 3rd round pick (83rd overall).

SupermanPahlsson 11-06-2012 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roo Mad Bro (Post 55569989)
Terrible for the Wild.

Phillips was a 2011 1st round pick (28th overall).

Welinski was a 2011 3rd round pick (83rd overall).

Where they were picked last year shouldn't have too much bearing on what their value is now. Welinski won USHL defenseman of the year for Green Bay last season, while helping them win the championship.

Not terrible, but I can see where you'd think the Ducks should add. Basing the two off of draft position alone tells me how much you actually know about Welinski, though.

Caniac125330 11-06-2012 04:07 PM

Pittsburgh doesn't need a third line center. That was the whole point of them getting Brandon Sutter in the Jordan Staal trade.

Rowdy Roddy Peeper 11-06-2012 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caniac125330 (Post 55571841)
Pittsburgh doesn't need a third line center. That was the whole point of them getting Brandon Sutter in the Jordan Staal trade.

Bingo. Not to mention, Harrington brings what we need more than any other defenseman in the pipeline (pure shutdown d).

I think there's a deal to be made between Minny and Pittsburgh considering their respective strengths and weaknesses, but this ain't it.

Roo Mad Bro 11-06-2012 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SupermanPahlsson (Post 55571019)
Where they were picked last year shouldn't have too much bearing on what their value is now. Welinski won USHL defenseman of the year for Green Bay last season, while helping them win the championship.

Not terrible, but I can see where you'd think the Ducks should add. Basing the two off of draft position alone tells me how much you actually know about Welinski, though.

I could see your point about draft selection if we're talking about players from 2008 or something.

But a 3rd rounder does not jump up to equal value to a 1st rounder after a year.

I read that he wont the USHL dman of the year, but look at the previous players who won that award. I mean Blake Kessel won that award, and he's awful.

goldy2266 11-06-2012 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roo Mad Bro (Post 55566079)
I would imagine the Wild would be more interested in Despres/Maatta/Dumoulin at the cost of Phillips.

Coyle
For
Despres/Maatta/Dumoulin

Rowdy Roddy Peeper 11-06-2012 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goldy2266 (Post 55579027)
Coyle
For
Despres/Maatta/Dumoulin

That's about what it would take to pry one of those 3 from Pittsburgh at this point, but I doubt any Wild fans would sign off on it, particularly after the AHL start he's had.

Mystifo 11-06-2012 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roo Mad Bro (Post 55569989)
Terrible for the Wild.

Phillips was a 2011 1st round pick (28th overall).

Welinski was a 2011 3rd round pick (83rd overall).

Nikolai Zherdev 2003 1st round pick (4th overall)

Shea Weber 2003 2nd round pick (49th overall)

So I guess for this to work out Nashville needs to add?

Roo Mad Bro 11-06-2012 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystifo (Post 55579971)
Nikolai Zherdev 2003 1st round pick (4th overall)

Shea Weber 2003 2nd round pick (49th overall)

So I guess for this to work out Nashville needs to add?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roo Mad Bro (Post 55578533)
I could see your point about draft selection if we're talking about players from 2008 or something.

But a 3rd rounder does not jump up to equal value to a 1st rounder after a year.

I read that he wont the USHL dman of the year, but look at the previous players who won that award. I mean Blake Kessel won that award, and he's awful.

Strong reading skills.

/sarcasm

Exit Dose 11-06-2012 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roo Mad Bro (Post 55578533)
I could see your point about draft selection if we're talking about players from 2008 or something.

But a 3rd rounder does not jump up to equal value to a 1st rounder after a year.

I read that he wont the USHL dman of the year, but look at the previous players who won that award. I mean Blake Kessel won that award, and he's awful.

Want a 3rd for Cousins, then?

Roo Mad Bro 11-06-2012 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exit Dose (Post 55580649)
Want a 3rd for Cousins, then?

That's a lateral move, and at least with Cousins I know what I'm getting.

Exit Dose 11-06-2012 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roo Mad Bro (Post 55580891)
That's a lateral move, and at least with Cousins I know what I'm getting.

That's okay, I didn't really want him.:)

88th Precinct 11-06-2012 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roo Mad Bro (Post 55580891)
at least with Cousins I know what I'm getting.

Phrasing!


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