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cujo931 11-06-2012 09:14 PM

If you could go back to last summer what would you have done?
 
If you could go as far back as the 2011 entry draft as Brian Burke what would you have done? Most people complain about all the players acquired last summer so what would you do instead?

tp71 11-06-2012 09:28 PM

The exact same things Brian Burke did.

charliolemieux 11-06-2012 09:30 PM

Well I would have traded Kadri, Franson and MacArthur for Malkin.

Then I would have traded Colborne, Reimer and D'Amigo for Lundqvist and Callahan.

Yeah baby.

Ricky Bobby 11-06-2012 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cujo931 (Post 55583949)
If you could go as far back as the 2011 entry draft as Brian Burke what would you have done? Most people complain about all the players acquired last summer so what would you do instead?

I'd redo the Lombardi/Franson trade.

I'd redo the Connolly signing (it's only 2 years and he was the best center available. I also don't believe he is as bad as people make him out to be. Just he plays 17 minutes a night and in every situation (ES, PP and PK).

I would have traded CMac well his value was at its highest and moved Connolly to the wing or inserted Kadri/Colborne.

I probably would have traded Franson as well after reinking Liles and having Gardiner prove he is a much better PP option. I'm not upset Franson is still here though.

I'd redo the JVR trade.

Not sure I would have bought Armstrong out. Probably would have went the re-entry route.

I'd redo the McClement signing.

I'd have tried to sign a veteran D who can play the PK to a one year deal who can be flipped at the deadline if we sucked again this year (Roszival, Hannan)

RogerRoeper* 11-06-2012 10:06 PM

Fired Wilson. That's it.

-DeMo- 11-06-2012 10:28 PM

I would have sold MacArthur at the trade deadline for that conditional first

I would have also sold Grabo instead of signing him to 5.5 million for 5 years. from what I recall there was a 1st + offer.

would not have offered Connolly that much more around the 2.5, probably wouldn't have got it done but would rather not have him at 4.75

I wouldn't have made the Schenn trade.

I would have pushed alot harder for Mike Richards.

wouldn't have traded up in the draft ethier and picked three times.

Leafs For Life* 11-06-2012 10:46 PM

Get K+K for Richards deal done. 2011 draft?
Fire Wilson, 2011 Entry Draft.
Bring Eakins up, 2011-2012 start of season.
Do the Vokoun deal right away.
Pick Jenner/Jensen and Biggs, 2011 Entry Draft.
Signed a shutdown dman. 2012 offseason.
Signed Grabovski for a shorter term, 2011 offseason.
Do the Connolly signing, 2011 offseason.
Trade away MacA, Franson, Connolly, Armstrong, Steckel for picks, 1st, high 2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 4th. 2012 TD.
Trade the picks gained to move up to 15th, then trade Colborne+15th for 10th, pick Forsberg/Grigorenko. 2012 Entry draft.
Drafted Nick Ebert in the 7th round, as he was considered a top 10 pick a year ago. 2012 entry draft.

Redo McClement, JVR/Schenn.

rdawg1234 11-06-2012 10:48 PM

Would've traded MacA earlier, but not upset he's not traded.

other than that all the same things, Vokoun is not worth a 2 year deal(heavily in decline, wasnt that special last year) Connolly was worth the deal, still could be solid this year and at least gives us some depth offensively.

wouldnt fire wilson as we were doing quite well, although I wouldnt have hired wilson 4 years ago, he's not fit for a young building team, he's fit for an already built, elite goaltending team.

charliolemieux 11-06-2012 11:01 PM

3 people would rather keep Schenn than get JVR?

I'm surprised.

ForSpareParts* 11-06-2012 11:31 PM

go after M Richards

fire Wilson

pooleboy 11-06-2012 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RogerRoeper (Post 55585641)
Fired Wilson. That's it.

This is it.

Aplayaz2000 11-07-2012 12:39 AM

trade my picks to get nail and murray

PierreMcGuire* 11-07-2012 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charliolemieux (Post 55584449)
Well I would have traded Kadri, Franson and MacArthur for Malkin.

Then I would have traded Colborne, Reimer and D'Amigo for Lundqvist and Callahan.

Yeah baby.

You should be the GM :nod:

Nazem Rielly 11-07-2012 01:17 AM

Absolutely nothing

Rare Jewel 11-07-2012 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RogerRoeper (Post 55585641)
Fired Wilson. That's it.

This.

Plus move Monster and keep Giguere.

That's it.

charliolemieux 11-07-2012 01:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 23 17 23 (Post 55590297)
You should be the GM :nod:

I am freaking AWESOME.

I would be the best GM EVER.

I don't know if I am ruthless enough to be a GM.

BE warned I would have still made the Kessel trade.

charliolemieux 11-07-2012 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rare Jewel (Post 55590873)
This.

Plus move Monster and keep Giguere.

That's it.

You mean move Reimer and tell Allaire to stay the F away from The Monster.

Rare Jewel 11-07-2012 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charliolemieux (Post 55591019)
You mean move Reimer and tell Allaire to stay the F away from The Monster.

Well whatever you like.


But there wasn't a person around who wanted Reimer gone last summer.

charliolemieux 11-07-2012 01:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rare Jewel (Post 55591071)
Well whatever you like.


But there wasn't a person around who wanted Reimer gone last summer.

Which just goes to show it was the wrong choice. :)

4evaBlue 11-07-2012 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rare Jewel (Post 55591071)
Well whatever you like.


But there wasn't a person around who wanted Reimer gone last summer.

Actually, there were a few of us who wanted Reimer gone from the net (not from the team) for now. There were a few long, drawn out debate threads during last off-season about the Reimer vs Monster decision.

BonMorrison 11-07-2012 08:31 AM

This makes little sense because hindsight makes everything seem better/worse. Players values have changed since that time but here we go:

- Traded Schenn after that great season when his value was sky-high.
- ^For fun sake, let's say Schenn + good prospect who won't play for a while + a pick for a very good second line winger
- Wouldn't have signed Connolly
- Still would've signed Steckel
- Re-signed Giguere to mentor Reimer
- Pulled the trigger on the rumored Kadri + Kulemin for Richards trade
- Still would've done the Lebda for Franson-Lombardi trade
- Fired Wilson, Called up Eakins

Lupul - Richards - Kessel
MacArthur - Grabovski - (Schenn trade)
Lombardi - Bozak - Frattin
Brown - Steckel - Armstrong

Phaneuf - Gunnarsson
Gardiner - Liles
Komisarek - Franson

Reimer
Giguere

Ricky Bobby 11-07-2012 08:59 AM

Burke was the one offering Kulemin & Kadri for Richards. Holgrem turned it down.

In addition to my original list I'd have inked Giggy last summer.

Deebo 11-07-2012 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ricky Bobby (Post 55594001)
Burke was the one offering Kulemin & Kadri for Richards. Holgrem turned it down.

In addition to my original list I'd have inked Giggy last summer.

I remember it differently.

Holmgren asked for Kulemin and Kadri, Burke said he had to think about it, deal with LA was made before he got back to Burke.

That tells me Holmgren preferred the package from LA.

BonMorrison 11-07-2012 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deebo (Post 55594091)
I remember it differently.

Holmgren asked for Kulemin and Kadri, Burke said he had to think about it, deal with LA was made before he got back to Burke.

That tells me Holmgren preferred the package from LA.

That's how I remember it too. Burke was right to only consider it at the time because Kulemin's value was so ridiculously high at the time that most posters were calling him a more integral piece to the team then Kessel.

Rinzler 11-07-2012 09:21 AM

Things we should have done:

- Fire Wilson (though I understand why we didn't)
- Keep Giguere and trade/waive Gustavsson (Always felt strongly about this)
- Not sign Connolly (His compete level and drive are not a match to where we're going with this team)

Giguere is the real sore point for me.


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