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MoreGore 11-08-2012 01:20 PM

Sens Training Camp, who makes it?
 
I thought that I had posted this yesterday, but not sure what happened... anyways

With the CBA looking like it is going to be signed very soon which means a very short training camp will be upon us in the very near future.

As most know the kids have been underwhelming so far except Lehner. (Who I think should stay in Bingo to play a ton of games).

Who gets a call to Ottawa to be part of the short camp? I see one forward and one defense spot open. IMO Benoit and Hoffman are the ones that deserve those spots. I would leave Silfverberg, Zibanejad, Stone, Boroweicki and Wiercioch in Bingo and call up as injuries happen.

tony d 11-08-2012 01:28 PM

I still think Silfverberg and possibly Zibanejad make the team as rookies this year. Possibly Hoffman as well.

God Says No 11-08-2012 01:29 PM

not sure about benoit, as he would have to clear waivers if he makes the team and then the sens decided to send him back to ahl. so i think the management will likely leave him in ahl unless he blows everyone out of the water in training camp or we get hit by massive injuries on the blue line.

hoffman is most likely to make the team out of camp imho.

L'Aveuglette 11-08-2012 02:14 PM

Is the new CBA actually about to be agreed upon? Haven't heard any report saying they're actually close to striking a deal. Talk is just talk.

benjiv1 11-08-2012 02:15 PM

My guess on the opening roster:

Silfverberg-Spezza-Michalek
Latendresse-Turris-Alfredsson
Greening-Regin-Condra
JOB-Smith-Neil

Methot-Karlsson
Cowen-Gonchar
Phillips-Weircioch

Lundin
Daugavins

Indy on the Road 11-08-2012 02:20 PM

What a tease

Minister of Offence 11-08-2012 02:21 PM

I think Mark Stone might give everyone something to think about come training camp.

L'Aveuglette 11-08-2012 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by benjiv1 (Post 55624115)
My guess on the opening roster:

Silfverberg-Spezza-Michalek
Latendresse-Turris-Alfredsson
Greening-Regin-Condra
JOB-Smith-Neil

Methot-Karlsson
Cowen-Gonchar
Phillips-Weircioch

Lundin
Daugavins

That's pretty close to what I had in mind, except I think Borocop might have the edge on Weircioch for that third pairing.

FrankTousi 11-08-2012 02:53 PM

jinx thread

EpicNeilTime 11-08-2012 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L'Aveuglette (Post 55624365)
That's pretty close to what I had in mind, except I think Borocop might have the edge on Weircioch for that third pairing.

I would agree however, I think we would give the spot to the player with more potential, not a player a who tops at a 3rd pairing D.

Weircioch needs a chance to show what he can do at the NHL stage where his game is more suited. For Borocop we already know what he's capable of and the time will come for him.

I also think Hoffman or Dizzy could challenge for a spot depending if there's a whole on the 3rd or 4th line. Zibanejad or Silf could use a full season in the A with Mark Stone. They'll get there turn. Plus it would give them more responsibility knowing they're the star players.

Tuna99 11-08-2012 03:00 PM

Michalek - Spezza - Alfie
Tender - Turris - Silferberg
Greening - Regin - Condra
Smith - JOB - Neil
Daug

Cowen - Karlsson
Methot - Gonchar
Phllips - Lundin

CanadianHockey 11-08-2012 03:14 PM

Michalek - Spezza - ???
Latendress - Turris - Alfredsson
Z.Smith - Regin - Neil
Greening - O'Brien - Condra
x - Daugavins

Call-up C: Da Costa, Grant
Call-up W: Zibanejad, Stone, Silfverberg, Hoffman, Petersson, Dziurzynski

Cowen - Karlsson
Methot - Gonchar
Phillips - Lundin
x-?

Call-up D: Wiercioch, Borowiecki, Gryba

Anderson
Bishop

Call-up G: Lehner

It's between Silfv, Zibby, and Stone for who gets that NHL spot to start the season. Could see any of them grab it. I wouldn't be surprised if we roll 6 D and just call-up one of Borocop or Wiercioch if someone goes down (I don't think either of them has priority over the other, I think who gets called up will be determined by which D is injured).

BlazingRoy 11-08-2012 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by benjiv1 (Post 55624115)
My guess on the opening roster:

Silfverberg-Spezza-Michalek
Latendresse-Turris-Alfredsson
Greening-Regin-Condra
JOB-Smith-Neil

Methot-Karlsson
Cowen-Gonchar
Phillips-Weircioch

Lundin
Daugavins

This goal-tending scares me

Goat Boy 11-08-2012 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlazingRoy (Post 55626547)
This goal-tending scares me

I was going to say...

Daugavins should definitely be the starter. I'm not sold on Lundin. I'd bet all I have that he's an ECHL goalie at best.

Qward 11-08-2012 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlazingRoy (Post 55626547)
This goal-tending scares me

lmao. Well played.



I think Weircioch is higher up than Boro right now.

He is doing well and Boro is struggling a little.

Not to mention he is playing Right which is the spot we may need if Lundin does not do well.

sg58 11-08-2012 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goat Boy (Post 55626933)
I was going to say...

Daugavins should definitely be the starter. I'm not sold on Lundin. I'd bet all I have that he's an ECHL goalie at best.

He's fine as a backup, a definite upgrade from start of last year.

I don't think it's unreasonable to expect both Silfverberg and Ziba to be up at many points during the year, especially considering the latter could be used on any line. Silfverberg is more a player you play with skill or not play at all at this point of his career.

derriko 11-08-2012 04:31 PM

Wasnt the main reason Methot was acquired was to be Karlssons' d partner? Cowen and Gonchar are both real familiar with each other, so I would assume they would stay together.

Methot - Karlsson
Cowen - Gonchar
Phillips - Lundin (Weir or Boro)

OgieO 11-08-2012 05:14 PM

I think Zibanejad and probably Silf are better served with the better part of the year in the AHL. Let them learn the North American style and rink size with minimal pressure then come up next year (or late this year). However, I think Silfverberg will make it, although Hoffman could steal that last spot.

Michalek - Spezza - Latendresse
Silfverberg-Turris-Alfredsson
Smith-Regin-Condra
Greening-JOB-Neil
Daugavins

Methot - Karlsson
Cowen - Gonchar
Phillips - Lundin
Boro

Andre Benoit Bawls 11-08-2012 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minister of Offence (Post 55624245)
I think Mark Stone might give everyone something to think about come training camp.

Yeah I see no reason as to why Silfverberg is so considered so much more likely to make it over Stone - unless we would rather have Greening in the top 6 than either of them. Silfverberg is going to be a great player, but he needs to make a better adjustment to American ice. I personally think that giving an adjustment period is crucial for Swedes and in a shortened season, we need to ice the best possible team. Let Silf hit his stride and then bring him up.

Now, of course there's a large possibility that Silfverberg does great in camp and earns a job - which I would be thrilled with - but as of now Stone looks to me like he might be able to help us a little bit more.

Qward 11-08-2012 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The OttoMan Lion (Post 55629033)
Yeah I see no reason as to why Silfverberg is so considered so much more likely to make it over Stone - unless we would rather have Greening in the top 6 than either of them. Silfverberg is going to be a great player, but he needs to make a better adjustment to American ice. I personally think that giving an adjustment period is crucial for Swedes and in a shortened season, we need to ice the best possible team. Let Silf hit his stride and then bring him up.

Now, of course there's a large possibility that Silfverberg does great in camp and earns a job - which I would be thrilled with - but as of now Stone looks to me like he might be able to help us a little bit more.

Silfverberg is proving himself in Bingo right now.

Andre Benoit Bawls 11-08-2012 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qward (Post 55629197)
Silfverberg is proving himself in Bingo right now.

I'm not saying he has been bad and I have missed a few games due to the time difference but he hasn't looked ready for an NHL top 6 role - at least not compared to Stone imo. I don't want Silf sitting on the 3rd line with little PP time. My main point was if Silfverberg makes it, I think Stone should as well. I might be proven wrong in training camp of course but thats just my stance as of now.

sg58 11-08-2012 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The OttoMan Lion (Post 55629033)
Yeah I see no reason as to why Silfverberg is so considered so much more likely to make it over Stone - unless we would rather have Greening in the top 6 than either of them. Silfverberg is going to be a great player, but he needs to make a better adjustment to American ice. I personally think that giving an adjustment period is crucial for Swedes and in a shortened season, we need to ice the best possible team. Let Silf hit his stride and then bring him up.

Now, of course there's a large possibility that Silfverberg does great in camp and earns a job - which I would be thrilled with - but as of now Stone looks to me like he might be able to help us a little bit more.

Silfverberg's got a bit of an advantage going in, as proven by this spring's playoffs.

ReginKarlssonLehner 11-08-2012 05:45 PM

From what I'm seeing so far in bingo. Silfverberg and Hoffman will be on the opening rosters.

Silfverberg's IQ and the way he controls the game is NHL ready. He is reliable on both ends of the ice and is an excellent complementary and go-to player.

Hoffman's is just boss and shouldn't be in the A any longer. He can be amazing on that 3rd line who does it all and help on that second line PP point position. A Matt Cullen type player.

I also think Wiercioch is ahead of Boro but I think they'll keep Wiercioch a bit longer to hone his skills some more.

Latendresse-Spezza-Michalek
Silfverberg-Turris-Alfredsson
Hoffman-Regin-Neil
Greening-Smith-O'Brien
Condra

Methot-Karlsson
Gonchar-Cowen
Phillips-Lundin
Boro

Anderson
Bishop

benjiv1 11-08-2012 05:49 PM

IMO, Weircioch gets the first chance as the final pairing D, and here's why:

1. He put in an imense amount of work this summer with Turris
2. It balances our Defensive D (Methot, Phillips, Cowen) and our PMD (Karlsson, Gonchar, Weircioch)
3. He's the only piece we have left from the Havlat trade :cry: :p:

I think Silfverberg will get the first chance on the wing, because of his shot.

The team will put Zibanejad on the slow burner and let him play his first full season, Hoffman is the first call up.

Bishop backs up Anderson, but if Anderson gets injured, Lehner will get the call to replace.

aragorn 11-08-2012 08:21 PM

Greening - Spezza - Michalek
Latendresse - Turris - Alfredsson
Z. Smith - Regin - Condra
Daugavins - JOB - Neil

Methot - Karlsson
Cowen - Gonchar
Phillips - Lundin

Anderson - Bishop

All of the players above have one way contracts & I doubt Bryan Murray wants to pay any of them NHL salaries to sit on the bench or play in the AHL. I recently heard that Ottawa would carry a 23 man roster so this allows two prospects to make the team. My guess is that Boroweicki should be the guy on defence & a fight between Silfverberg, Zibanejad, Stone & Hoffman for that forward spot. Hoffman could have the edge with how well he has done in Bingo so far this yr & last season.

If Bishop doesn't play well he could be replaced by Lehner but my guess is that they will give Bishop a lot of opportunities to increase his value before trading him. Regin, JOB, Condra & Daugavins IMO could be all on thin ice & if Alfie doesn't return that will open up another roster spot. If Grant & Dzuizynski continue to have a good season with Bingo they could eventually force some changes next yr on the 3rd & 4th lines in Ottawa.


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