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Stylizer1 11-10-2012 07:08 PM

This lockout is the best thing for the NHL
 
Lower revenues means all the bottom feeder teams will have to find new homes. Quebec, Toronto, and maybe Hamilton will all have a better chance at at getting teams. Get rid of the other teams no one cares about and create a stronger, better league.

GK 11-10-2012 07:15 PM

I was thinking this too, but I can't see Bettman letting that happen.

If it went two years, which some were saying was possible at one point, I bet the league would lose 10 teams.

White Goodman 11-10-2012 07:15 PM

I'm happy you think it's best that lots of people have lost jobs. :handclap:

Stylizer1 11-10-2012 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jakob Silfverberg (Post 55674945)
I'm happy you think it's best that lots of people have lost jobs. :handclap:

That's life.

Maybe the government should just give every unemployed person a job then. That would solve the problem, right?


:shakehead

White Goodman 11-10-2012 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stylizer1 (Post 55675079)
That's life.

Maybe the government should just give every unemployed person a job then. That would solve the problem, right?


:shakehead

Yes.

BK201 11-10-2012 08:16 PM

One thing I never got was why doesn't an owner like the guy who owns the panthers move to a place like QC and make monies while these better markets are still available.

Stylizer1 11-10-2012 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BK201 (Post 55676419)
One thing I never got was why doesn't an owner like the guy who owns the panthers move to a place like QC and make monies while these better markets are still available.

Florida has no income tax.

Quebec has very high taxes.

wubwubwubwub 11-10-2012 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BK201 (Post 55676419)
One thing I never got was why doesn't an owner like the guy who owns the panthers move to a place like QC and make monies while these better markets are still available.

Massive relocation fees might make it not worth their while. No guarantee a team succeeds there, either.

BK201 11-10-2012 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by The OttoMan Lion (Post 55676577)
Massive relocation fees might make it not worth their while. No guarantee a team succeeds there, either.

Probably but it's not like a team is succeeding there. How they stay a float is beyond me.

There's still Seattle, Vegas and whatever, all I know is Florida doesn't seem to care.


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Originally Posted by Stylizer1 (Post 55676571)
Florida has no income tax.

Quebec has very high taxes.

Hmm didn't know that but still you'd think there's more money not in Florida.

FolignoQuantumLeap 11-10-2012 08:35 PM

I have a wild conspiracy theory that the true purpose of this lockout is to accomplish what you're suggesting... but I just keep things like that to myself.

Daffy 11-10-2012 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stylizer1 (Post 55675079)
That's life.

Maybe the government should just give every unemployed person a job then. That would solve the problem, right?


:shakehead

I am one person who is without my job with no hockey at SBP. I have another job obviously, but it sure would help. With that said, that was a pretty ignorant comment on you're part.

Fenix Rises 2026 11-10-2012 08:55 PM

It's not a strike.

derriko 11-10-2012 09:01 PM

I like how the OP mentions 3 Canadian cities over Seattle, which ive read from a couple "experts" that they are the front runner since the arena has been approved and construction will start once we get an NBA team.

Stylizer1 11-10-2012 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Daffy (Post 55676987)
I am one person who is without my job with no hockey at SBP. I have another job obviously, but it sure would help. With that said, that was a pretty ignorant comment on you're part.

It wasn't meant as a personal attack. My initial comment was focusing just on Hockey and how to better it. Jakob Silfverberg tried to turn my comment into something it was not.

It's unfortunate people have lost jobs but it is what it is. No job in the world is guaranteed but when hockey does come back so will your job, right?

Now, I think like many people do that contraction would make the league better but before that relocate at least 3 teams back to Canada. The league would only benefit from it. People would lose their jobs but that's no ones fault except for Gary putting teams where they shouldn't be. blame him.

Stylizer1 11-10-2012 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by derriko (Post 55677403)
I like how the OP mentions 3 Canadian cities over Seattle, which ive read from a couple "experts" that they are the front runner since the arena has been approved and construction will start once we get an NBA team.

You basically shot yourself in the foot there. When Seattle gets an NBA team? Meaning The NHL would be behind the NFL, MLB, NBA, and be competing with MLS for revenue streams. It's not like Seattle is in desperate need of an NHL team because fans are demanding it, the owners of the Stadium would like another tenant to generate profits on the NBA's off nights. Big difference.

Hockey would be the number 1 draw in Hamilton, Quebec city, and a close second in toronto. There is no comparison when it comes to the 4 cities in question.

Can Seattle support and NHL team, of course, but are they going to have the revenue streams other Canadian team would have, no.

Stylizer1 11-10-2012 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dblad the Impaler (Post 55677251)
It's not a strike.

my mistake.

HavlatMach9 11-10-2012 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stylizer1 (Post 55674801)
Lower revenues means all the bottom feeder teams will have to find new homes.

Says who?

IU Hawks fan 11-10-2012 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BK201 (Post 55676419)
One thing I never got was why doesn't an owner like the guy who owns the panthers move to a place like QC and make monies while these better markets are still available.

The Panthers make mad money off all the property they own around the arena and what not. No tenant in the rink, no revenue coming in from the other sources which rely on a team there filling the building.

BK201 11-11-2012 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IU Hawks fan (Post 55680837)
The Panthers make mad money off all the property they own around the arena and what not. No tenant in the rink, no revenue coming in from the other sources which rely on a team there filling the building.

What I'm confused I though like maybe 3000 people a game. So how is this getting more money to things around this place?

saskriders 11-11-2012 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by derriko (Post 55677403)
I like how the OP mentions 3 Canadian cities over Seattle, which ive read from a couple "experts" that they are the front runner since the arena has been approved and construction will start once we get an NBA team.

We just don't want to loose you as a Sens fan:laugh:

IU Hawks fan 11-11-2012 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by BK201 (Post 55682315)
What I'm confused I though like maybe 3000 people a game.

3000?

Their average attendance has been over 15,000 since 01-02...

This thread helps explains the Panthers situation better than I can
http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...light=panthers

BK201 11-11-2012 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IU Hawks fan (Post 55682463)
3000?

Their average attendance has been over 15,000 since 01-02...

This thread helps explains the Panthers situation better than I can
http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...light=panthers

Thanks :) I'll read through that. Makes sense though as they are still in Florida.

Up here it's rumored that the panthers have trouble giving tickets away let alone having more than a couple thousand fans pay to get it in. Sounds really ignorant especially from a hockey enthusiast but that's what the word is up here.

CanadianHockey 11-11-2012 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BK201 (Post 55676419)
One thing I never got was why doesn't an owner like the guy who owns the panthers move to a place like QC and make monies while these better markets are still available.

The Panthers owners also own a ton of real estate (shopping centres) around the BB&T (formerly BankAtlantic) Center. Make a ton of money off those properties that kind of subsidize the costs of the team.

koreaboy 11-11-2012 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IU Hawks fan (Post 55682463)
3000?

Their average attendance has been over 15,000 since 01-02...

This thread helps explains the Panthers situation better than I can
http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...light=panthers

"announced" attendance is often very different from "real" attendance. there are nowhere near 15,000 a game in that building.

TeamRenzo 11-11-2012 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by koreaboy (Post 55684455)
"announced" attendance is often very different from "real" attendance. there are nowhere near 15,000 a game in that building.

A lot of the people in attendance receive tickets at either a discounted rate or given away as part of a local promotion.


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