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LEAFANFORLIFE23 11-11-2012 12:01 PM

assuming there is no season where do the top ufa's go?
 
IF this season gets wiped out the 2013 NHL free agent class will be the deepest it's been since 2002 when belfour cjuo geruin holik amonte and ritcher headlined free agencey. Names like getzlaf perry zajac clarkson weiss iginla rebeiro backstrom howard simth thomas regehr and edler lupul all set to hit free agency.

with that in mind where do you think the top names end up?

for us I see us resigning lupul and going HARD after the likes of clarkson howard getzlaf perry obiviously not ending up with all 4 but I think those would be the 4 targets and I do think that if he hits free agency clarkson will end up in Toronto.

who will your team target? who goes where?

Vankiller Whale 11-11-2012 12:14 PM

Edler re-signs with us, and I would like to go hard after Perry, to heck with the rest.

I think this will simply end up as: "My team re-signs their own free agents and gets all the best ones off the market."

But who knows.

fedfed 11-11-2012 12:43 PM

I think Caps lose Ribeiro and go after a younger C.

punk_o_holic 11-11-2012 01:06 PM

For my fav teams, I would love to see the Oilers pick up Edler from their divisional rivals to solidify their D. But they must sign Smid first. If they sign Edler and lose Smid, the defense only improves slightly. If they retain Smid and add Edler, they improve significantly.

For the Blue Jackets, would like to see them let go of Mason(not qualifying him and making him a UFA). I would want Howard but it won't happen as I see him staying in Detroit. A more realistic option I think would be if they went after Backstrom or Thomas on a short term deal. Both are getting up in age so a 2 year deal for Backstrom or a 1 year deal for Thomas would be my preference. Either can help out Bobrovsky and Columbus wouldn't need to rush Bobrovsky as a starter. I also would like to see the Jackets go after Lupul or Zajac. I can't see teh Devils letting Zajac leave though after losing Parise.
*Thomas might not get many offers and if he wants to keep his olympic drive alive, he might settle for Columbus.

Realistically, I actually see the Oilers going after UFA's. Not so much with the Jackets though.

tsujimoto74 11-11-2012 01:09 PM

If Edler doesn't re-up with Van, I think Buffalo could make a push to get him to play with Ehrhoff.
I also suspect we'll re-sign Regehr for another year or 2, since he's a much better fit in the "steady vet" role than Leopold, and let Leo walk.

Dellstrom 11-11-2012 01:12 PM

Provided we have the cap space and that he even hits the market, (both of which are unlikely,) I can't see the Bruins not going after Iginla.

Community 11-11-2012 01:17 PM

Every free agent (according to cap-geek) that makes over 3 million for reference:

Iginla, Jarome R CGY 35 $7,000,000 2013 (UFA)

Semin, Alexander R CAR 28 $7,000,000 2013 (UFA)

Timonen, Kimmo D PHI 37 $6,333,333 2013 (UFA)

Elias, Patrik C NJD 36 $6,000,000 2013 (UFA)

Backstrom, Niklas G MIN 34 $6,000,000 2013 (UFA)

Visnovsky, Lubomir D NYI 36 $5,600,000 2013 (UFA)

Gonchar, Sergei D OTT 38 $5,500,000 2013 (UFA)

Getzlaf, Ryan C ANA 27 $5,325,000 2013 (UFA)

Perry, Corey R ANA 27 $5,325,000 2013 (UFA)

Thomas, Tim G BOS 38 $5,000,000 2013 (UFA)

Ribeiro, Mike C WAS 32 $5,000,000 2013 (UFA)

Alfredsson, Daniel R OTT 39 $4,875,000 2013 (UFA)

Connolly, Tim C TOR 31 $4,750,000 2013 (UFA)

McDonald, Andy C STL 35 $4,700,000 2013 (UFA)

Jagr, Jaromir R DAL 40 $4,550,000 2013 (UFA)

Selanne, Teemu R ANA 42 $4,500,000 2013 (UFA)

Hainsey, Ron D WIN 31 $4,500,000 2013 (UFA)

Lupul, Joffrey L TOR 29 $4,250,000 2013 (UFA)

Morrow, Brenden L DAL 33 $4,100,000 2013 (UFA)

Streit, Mark D NYI 34 $4,100,000 2013 (UFA)

Bouchard, Pierre-Marc R MIN 28 $4,080,000 2013 (UFA)

Antropov, Nik C WIN 32 $4,062,500 2013 (UFA)

Regehr, Robyn D BUF 32 $4,020,000 2013 (UFA)

Horton, Nathan R BOS 27 $4,000,000 2013 (UFA)

Roy, Derek C DAL 29 $4,000,000 2013 (UFA)

Whitney, Ryan D EDM 29 $4,000,000 2013 (UFA)

Zidlicky, Marek D NJD 35 $4,000,000 2013 (UFA)

Zajac, Travis C NJD 27 $3,887,500 2013 (UFA)

Koivu, Saku C ANA 37 $3,800,000 2013 (UFA)

Cervenka, Roman C CGY 26 $3,775,000 2013 (UFA)

Khabibulin, Nikolai G EDM 39 $3,750,000 2013 (UFA)

Clowe, Ryane L SAN 30 $3,625,000 2013 (UFA)

Cullen, Matt C MIN 36 $3,500,000 2013 (UFA)

Gagne, Simon L LAK 32 $3,500,000 2013 (UFA)

Hamrlik, Roman D WAS 38 $3,500,000 2013 (UFA)

Ryder, Michael R DAL 32 $3,500,000 2013 (UFA)

Lombardi, Matthew C TOR 30 $3,500,000 2013 (UFA)

Zubrus, Dainius C NJD 34 $3,400,000 2013 (UFA)

Scuderi, Rob D LAK 33 $3,400,000 2013 (UFA)

Edler, Alexander D VAN 26 $3,250,000 2013 (UFA)

MacArthur, Clarke L TOR 27 $3,250,000 2013 (UFA)

Penner, Dustin L LAK 30 $3,250,000 2013 (UFA)

Weiss, Stephen C FLA 29 $3,100,000 2013 (UFA)

Armstrong, Colby R MTL 29 $3,000,000 2013 (UFA)

Filppula, Valtteri L DET 28 $3,000,000 2013 (UFA)

Leopold, Jordan D BUF 32 $3,000,000 2013 (UFA)

Lydman, Toni D ANA 35 $3,000,000 2013 (UFA)

For the leafs I'd like to see Lupul resigned and besides going after the obvious (Perry, Getzlaf, etc.) I'd like to try for Zajac, Weiss, Clowe in that order.

Wingsfan2965* 11-11-2012 01:21 PM

Just saying, don't expect Howard to leave Detroit.

Leafs For Life* 11-11-2012 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LEAFANFORLIFE23 (Post 55687399)
getzlaf perry zajac clarkson weiss iginla rebeiro backstrom howard simth thomas regehr and edler lupul all set to hit free agency.

I see us signing Lupul, if there is no season, to a 2 year/10M contract. And Bozak for 2/4M. I see us going hard after the top 2 from Anaheim, but coming out with none. I would like to sign Zajac for maybe 6 years/36M, and Clarkson for 3/12M. Go hard after all of the goalies, coming out with 1 with 5M cap hit, and signing Regher for 2 years/8M. We'll probably trade Liles and Grabovski also.

Viqsi 11-11-2012 01:29 PM

Only UFAs in Columbus are Prospal (who's committed to stay here, one year at a time as a player and then in the front office), Letestu (who I imagine we'd keep unless one of our other Cs looks NHL-ready), and Aucoin (dunno; he was going to mentor the kids but the kids look all right so far).

If we pursue anybody at all, it'd be a forward or two. Throwing away Mason is a popular sentiment but I don't think it likely, unless he insists on more than one year.

Paladin2799 11-11-2012 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TMLKesselftw (Post 55689333)
Every free agent (according to cap-geek) that makes over 3 million for reference:

Iginla, Jarome R CGY 35 $7,000,000 2013 (UFA)

Semin, Alexander R CAR 28 $7,000,000 2013 (UFA)

Timonen, Kimmo D PHI 37 $6,333,333 2013 (UFA)

Elias, Patrik C NJD 36 $6,000,000 2013 (UFA)

Backstrom, Niklas G MIN 34 $6,000,000 2013 (UFA)

Visnovsky, Lubomir D NYI 36 $5,600,000 2013 (UFA)

Gonchar, Sergei D OTT 38 $5,500,000 2013 (UFA)

Getzlaf, Ryan C ANA 27 $5,325,000 2013 (UFA)

Perry, Corey R ANA 27 $5,325,000 2013 (UFA)

Thomas, Tim G BOS 38 $5,000,000 2013 (UFA)

Ribeiro, Mike C WAS 32 $5,000,000 2013 (UFA)

Alfredsson, Daniel R OTT 39 $4,875,000 2013 (UFA)

Connolly, Tim C TOR 31 $4,750,000 2013 (UFA)

McDonald, Andy C STL 35 $4,700,000 2013 (UFA)

Jagr, Jaromir R DAL 40 $4,550,000 2013 (UFA)

Selanne, Teemu R ANA 42 $4,500,000 2013 (UFA)

Hainsey, Ron D WIN 31 $4,500,000 2013 (UFA)

Lupul, Joffrey L TOR 29 $4,250,000 2013 (UFA)

Morrow, Brenden L DAL 33 $4,100,000 2013 (UFA)

Streit, Mark D NYI 34 $4,100,000 2013 (UFA)

Bouchard, Pierre-Marc R MIN 28 $4,080,000 2013 (UFA)

Antropov, Nik C WIN 32 $4,062,500 2013 (UFA)

Regehr, Robyn D BUF 32 $4,020,000 2013 (UFA)

Horton, Nathan R BOS 27 $4,000,000 2013 (UFA)

Roy, Derek C DAL 29 $4,000,000 2013 (UFA)

Whitney, Ryan D EDM 29 $4,000,000 2013 (UFA)

Zidlicky, Marek D NJD 35 $4,000,000 2013 (UFA)

Zajac, Travis C NJD 27 $3,887,500 2013 (UFA)

Koivu, Saku C ANA 37 $3,800,000 2013 (UFA)

Cervenka, Roman C CGY 26 $3,775,000 2013 (UFA)

Khabibulin, Nikolai G EDM 39 $3,750,000 2013 (UFA)

Clowe, Ryane L SAN 30 $3,625,000 2013 (UFA)

Cullen, Matt C MIN 36 $3,500,000 2013 (UFA)

Gagne, Simon L LAK 32 $3,500,000 2013 (UFA)

Hamrlik, Roman D WAS 38 $3,500,000 2013 (UFA)

Ryder, Michael R DAL 32 $3,500,000 2013 (UFA)

Lombardi, Matthew C TOR 30 $3,500,000 2013 (UFA)

Zubrus, Dainius C NJD 34 $3,400,000 2013 (UFA)

Scuderi, Rob D LAK 33 $3,400,000 2013 (UFA)

Edler, Alexander D VAN 26 $3,250,000 2013 (UFA)

MacArthur, Clarke L TOR 27 $3,250,000 2013 (UFA)

Penner, Dustin L LAK 30 $3,250,000 2013 (UFA)

Weiss, Stephen C FLA 29 $3,100,000 2013 (UFA)

Armstrong, Colby R MTL 29 $3,000,000 2013 (UFA)

Filppula, Valtteri L DET 28 $3,000,000 2013 (UFA)

Leopold, Jordan D BUF 32 $3,000,000 2013 (UFA)

Lydman, Toni D ANA 35 $3,000,000 2013 (UFA)

For the leafs I'd like to see Lupul resigned and besides going after the obvious (Perry, Getzlaf, etc.) I'd like to try for Zajac, Weiss, Clowe in that order.

Weiss and Clowe are perfect UFA targets I would think for our team.

Lupul-Weiss-Kessel
Kulemin-grabo-Clowe
Kadri-Colborne-Frattin
Brown-McClement-D'Amigo
Steckle

Thats a pretty ****ing solid top 12. Some good youth on that team in the 3rd line that could be one hell of a 3rd scoring line. Lots of grit and defensive play in the 4th line. Steckle for uber important faceoffs and depth.

hlaverty06 11-11-2012 01:38 PM

Zajac either goes to WPG or resigns.

Clarkson stays in NJ. He'd take a discount to stay

Patty stays in NJ. He's been a devil his whole career.

Devils could possible pursue another top 6 winger

LEAFANFORLIFE23 11-11-2012 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paladin2799 (Post 55689845)
Weiss and Clowe are perfect UFA targets I would think for our team.

Lupul-Weiss-Kessel
Kulemin-grabo-Clowe
Kadri-Colborne-Frattin
Brown-McClement-D'Amigo
Steckle

Thats a pretty ****ing solid top 12. Some good youth on that team in the 3rd line that could be one hell of a 3rd scoring line. Lots of grit and defensive play in the 4th line. Steckle for uber important faceoffs and depth.

Weiss is more of #2 and we have that in grabo


that 3rd line is WAY to young do like clowe

gdsmack267 11-11-2012 01:41 PM

Wouldnt mind the pens going after clowe

Ceremony 11-11-2012 01:41 PM

Only COL UFAs off the top of my head are Hejduk and Kobasew. Kobasew's definitely gone, and if Hejduk misses a full season I don't see him coming back either.

Of the UFAs available then... a winger or a D is what we'd be going for. Clowe seems like he'd be a good fit, an outside shot on Perry too though I imagine he'd get more elsewhere. On D, Streit would be a great fit. Though I don't expect him to leave NYI (and I don't expect Perry to leave ANA either, Clowe may leave but isn't likely either).

Ed - :facepalm: I forgot Edler. Yeah go for him.

Nyquist 11-11-2012 01:42 PM

For Detroit Edler is the obvious target. We have so much cap space, I wouldn't mind Holland overpaying for him at all. If not Edler, Scuderi would be a nice addition as well. For offense I would like Clowe, but if young guys like Brunner and Nyquist do well our top six won't need him.

As for our own free agents, I don't see Filppula or Howard leaving. Cleary might just be forced out because of all of our forwards and his injury history. I'd like to see Brunner resign as well. With Eaves still not being healthy, I wouldn't mind having Miller resign.

Gentle Jake Virtanen 11-11-2012 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paladin2799 (Post 55689845)
Weiss and Clowe are perfect UFA targets I would think for our team.

Lupul-Weiss-Kessel
Kulemin-grabo-Clowe
Kadri-Colborne-Frattin
Brown-McClement-D'Amigo
Steckle

Thats a pretty ****ing solid top 12. Some good youth on that team in the 3rd line that could be one hell of a 3rd scoring line. Lots of grit and defensive play in the 4th line. Steckle for uber important faceoffs and depth.

don't expect a ton of success with Stephen Weiss as your 1C. He's a great 2C, but probably not a top-30 centre in the league.

Paladin2799 11-11-2012 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LEAFANFORLIFE23 (Post 55689971)
Weiss is more of #2 and we have that in grabo


that 3rd line is WAY to young do like clowe

Weiss is a solid #2 centerman, I would rather run two #2's for now and then when I get a #1 have extremely solid center depth.

The 3rd line has a chance to develop great chemistry, but also depth throughout the top6 while getting nhl experience. All 3 of them are able to cover adequately in a 2nd line capacity if someone goes down. Let them get NHL minutes and a chance to score. Its the only way to really see if they are any good. There is a lot of talent on that line, if they click it could explode.

LEAFANFORLIFE23 11-11-2012 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tangerine (Post 55690095)
don't expect a ton of success with Stephen Weiss as your 1C. He's a great 2C, but probably not a top-30 centre in the league.

having 2 guys that can put up close to 60 points down the middle wouldn't be horrible

LEAFANFORLIFE23 11-11-2012 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Datsyuk Dangles (Post 55690035)
For Detroit Edler is the obvious target. We have so much cap space, I wouldn't mind Holland overpaying for him at all. If not Edler, Scuderi would be a nice addition as well. For offense I would like Clowe, but if young guys like Brunner and Nyquist do well our top six won't need him.

As for our own free agents, I don't see Filppula or Howard leaving. Cleary might just be forced out because of all of our forwards and his injury history. I'd like to see Brunner resign as well. With Eaves still not being healthy, I wouldn't mind having Miller resign.

suprised you didnt mention regehr seems to perfect replacement for stuart

Wingsfan2965* 11-11-2012 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gdsmack267 (Post 55689999)
Wouldnt mind the pens going after clowe

Not happening if the cap goes down.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Datsyuk Dangles (Post 55690035)
For Detroit Edler is the obvious target. We have so much cap space, I wouldn't mind Holland overpaying for him at all. If not Edler, Scuderi would be a nice addition as well. For offense I would like Clowe, but if young guys like Brunner and Nyquist do well our top six won't need him.

As for our own free agents, I don't see Filppula or Howard leaving. Cleary might just be forced out because of all of our forwards and his injury history. I'd like to see Brunner resign as well. With Eaves still not being healthy, I wouldn't mind having Miller resign.

Edler to Detroit is almost impossible as well if the cap drops.

As for our forwards, we'll have 10:

Datsyuk/Zetterberg/Franzen/Helm/Abdelkader/Eaves/Samuelsson/Bertuzzi/Tootoo/Emmerton

FAs are Filppula/Brunner/Nyquist/Cleary/Miller/Mursak.

So you can almost guarantee Cleary is gone. Mursak probably gone. Miller will depend a lot on if Eaves ever comes back. Filppula and Nyquist are essentially locks to come back, and Brunner might be back as well.

That's 12-14 spots (depending on Brunner being signed as well as Eaves' health) and that doesn't even include the fact that Tatar really should be called up by then.

Community 11-11-2012 02:11 PM

I expect this season for the Leafs to be going after some of the top UFA's considering they will have lots of cap space after Connolly, MacA, Lombardi, and a few other contracts end.

Nyquist 11-11-2012 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LEAFANFORLIFE23 (Post 55690347)
suprised you didnt mention regehr seems to perfect replacement for stuart

I wouldn't mind him either. It really depends on how the team does this year. There's obviously a ton of question marks with Lidstrom and Stuart leaving. If Kronwall can play in that #1 spot well and if Ericsson keeps improving and Smith plays like he did last year it should be a solid defense. There's a lot of ifs but they're all very realistic ifs.

InjuredChoker 11-11-2012 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LEAFANFORLIFE23 (Post 55690347)
suprised you didnt mention regehr seems to perfect replacement for stuart

Regehr, Edler, Lydman, Hainsey, Timonen.. all possibilities.

Edler would be the best, but I think he's re-signed by Canucks. And if he's not, I don't see why he would choose us over them (or other teams pushing money towards him).

Regehr would be ok.

Lydman.. if the price is right.. He may not have much left on him. Same with Hainsey.

I think Timonen re-signs with Flyers or retires.

InjuredChoker 11-11-2012 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wingsfan2965 (Post 55690423)
Not happening if the cap goes down.



Edler to Detroit is almost impossible as well if the cap drops.

As for our forwards, we'll have 10:

Datsyuk/Zetterberg/Franzen/Helm/Abdelkader/Eaves/Samuelsson/Bertuzzi/Tootoo/Emmerton

FAs are Filppula/Brunner/Nyquist/Cleary/Miller/Mursak.

So you can almost guarantee Cleary is gone. Mursak probably gone. Miller will depend a lot on if Eaves ever comes back. Filppula and Nyquist are essentially locks to come back, and Brunner might be back as well.

That's 12-14 spots (depending on Brunner being signed as well as Eaves' health) and that doesn't even include the fact that Tatar really should be called up by then.

I'd hate to lose Mursak, esp. for nothing. I think he has solid 3rd line potential. Some team will pick him up and then we can watch him score 20 goals when he gets a chance to do that.

I like Cleary but with current situation, I don't think we can keep him. Possibly the same with Eaves. Miller could test UFA. Can pk, scores close to 15 goals..


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