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bluesfan94 11-13-2012 03:55 AM

St. Louis Blues Top Prospect #27
 
Defenseman Nick Walters waltzes into the 26 spot with 30.00% of the vote.

Top Prospect
#1 Vladimir Tarasenko, RW, 6'0, 191, 12/13/1991 (92.16%)
#2 Jaden Schwartz, LW, 5'9, 179, 6/25/1992 (92.50%)
#3 Ty Rattie, RW, 6'0, 167, 2/5/1993 (57.38%)
#4 Ian Cole, D, 6'1, 225, 2/21/1989 (75.61%)
#5 Jake Allen, G, 6'2, 195, 8/7/1990 (73.33%)
#6 Jordan Schmaltz, D, 6'2, 170, 10/8/1993 (38.1%)
#7 Jani Hakanpaa, D, 6'5, 218, 3/31/1992 (64.71%)
#8 Cade Fairchild, D, 5'11, 175, 1/15/1989 (61.7%)
#9 Philip McRae, C, 6'2, 200, 3/15/1990 (57.89%)
#10 Sebastian Wannstrom, RW, 6'1, 183, 3/3/1991 (30.95%)
#11 Evgeny Grachev, C/LW, 6'4, 225, 2/21/1990 (38.10%)
(tie) #12 Sam Kurker, RW, 6'2, 198, 4/8/94 (30.00%)
(tie) #12 Jori Lehtera, C, 6'1, 201, 12/23/87 (30.00%)
#14 Joel Edmundson, D, 6'4, 192, 6/28/93 (51.85%)
#15 Dmitrij Jaskin, RW, 6'2, 198, 3/23/93 (40.54%)
#16 Brett Ponich, D, 6'7, 220, 2/22/91 (42.11%)
#17 Yannick Veilleux, LW, 6'2, 190, 2/22/93 (48.48%)
#18 MacKenzie MacEachern, LW, 6'2, 174, 3/9/94 (35.39%)
#19 Ryan Tesink, C/LW, 6'0, 165, 5/21/93 (44.83%)
#20 Teemu Eronen, D, 5'10, 181, 11/22/91 (50.00%)
#21 Sergei Andronov, RW, 6'0, 183, 7/19/89 (44.00%)
#22 Colton Parayko, D, 6'5, 191, 5/12/93 (40.00%)
#23 Jordan Binnington, G, 6'1, 154, 7/11/93 (59.38%)
#24 Cody Beach, RW, 6'5, 184, 8/8/1992 (38.46%)
#25 Anthony Peluso, RW, 6'3, 235, 4/18/1989 (25.00%)
#26 Nick Walters, D, 6'2, 187, 4/11/1994 (30.00%)

Crumblin Erb Brooks 11-13-2012 12:58 PM

Cundari, no one left has much of a ceiling, and Cundari is likely the closest to the NHL.

PocketNines 11-13-2012 01:03 PM

Went with Nigro. There are diminishing returns to diferentiating between prospects at this point.

STL fan in IA 11-13-2012 08:01 PM

Going with Nigro. He's a solid 3rd/4th line center for the Rivs and while he has a ways to go, he does have the potential to serve that same role in the NHL someday. He hasn't shown much yet this season due to his concussion but he made a big stride last season IMO.

Cundari has fallen quite a bit for me. Right now, he's the #7/8 d-man in Peoria. That's just not going to cut it, especially as a 3rd year pro. If I had to guess, I doubt the Blues the-sign him at the end of the season.

I also considered Lundstrom, Della Rovere (who is still out with injury but has similar potential to Nigro) and Karpowich.

Robb_K 11-14-2012 12:07 AM

It's REALLY tough to decide now. The goalies are the best bets to hit AND to miss (highest ceilings AND highest possibility of busting). The skaters have low high-end potential. The closest and best bet is probably Nigro (as a 4th line NHL forward). Cundari probably has almost no chance of being a regular NHLer. Sonne has only a very outside chance. Tardy, Gardiner and most of the others are extreme longshots.

I went with Nigro. But, I have the feeling that one of Tremblay or Lundström will become more valuable in the end.

Travelling Blue 11-14-2012 06:55 AM

Cundari played last 3 games as a D-man. He and Cole were top D's on the ice

STL fan in IA 11-14-2012 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robb_K (Post 55755447)
I went with Nigro. But, I have the feeling that one of Tremblay or Lundström will become more valuable in the end.

I see it the exact same way. Lundstrom and/or Tremblay will very likely either become valuable pro assets or completely useless prospects. Teenage goalies are nearly impossible to project, especially ones who are still quite rough around the edges like these two are.

PocketNines 11-14-2012 04:06 PM

If we wanna break out goalies from skaters:

Skaters Only
#1 Vladimir Tarasenko, RW, 6'0, 191, 12/13/1991
#2 Jaden Schwartz, LW, 5'9, 179, 6/25/1992
#3 Ty Rattie, RW, 6'0, 167, 2/5/1993
#4 Ian Cole, D, 6'1, 225, 2/21/1989
#5 Jordan Schmaltz, D, 6'2, 170, 10/8/1993
#6 Jani Hakanpaa, D, 6'5, 218, 3/31/1992
#7 Cade Fairchild, D, 5'11, 175, 1/15/1989
#8 Philip McRae, C, 6'2, 200, 3/15/1990
#9 Sebastian Wannstrom, RW, 6'1, 183, 3/3/199
#10 Evgeny Grachev, C/LW, 6'4, 225, 2/21/1990
(tie) #11 Sam Kurker, RW, 6'2, 198, 4/8/94
(tie) #11 Jori Lehtera, C, 6'1, 201, 12/23/87
#13 Joel Edmundson, D, 6'4, 192, 6/28/93
#14 Dmitrij Jaskin, RW, 6'2, 198, 3/23/93
#15 Brett Ponich, D, 6'7, 220, 2/22/91
#16 Yannick Veilleux, LW, 6'2, 190, 2/22/93
#17 MacKenzie MacEachern, LW, 6'2, 174, 3/9/94
#18 Ryan Tesink, C/LW, 6'0, 165, 5/21/93
#19 Teemu Eronen, D, 5'10, 181, 11/22/91
#20 Sergei Andronov, RW, 6'0, 183, 7/19/89
#21 Colton Parayko, D, 6'5, 191, 5/12/93
#22 Cody Beach, RW, 6'5, 184, 8/8/1992
#23 Anthony Peluso, RW, 6'3, 235, 4/18/1989
#24 Nick Walters, D, 6'2, 187, 4/11/1994

Goalies
#1 Jake Allen, 6'2, 195, 8/7/1990
#2 Jordan Binnington, 6'1, 154, 7/11/93

bluemandan 11-14-2012 08:39 PM

Della Rovere, again.

PerryTurnbullfan 11-15-2012 05:29 AM

I only see 3 players on here that I even view as border line prospects. Gardiner, Lundbohm, and Lundstrom. The others are suspects and roster fillers. Gardiner is still young and is at least making a turn in the right direction. Lundbohm is very young playing much like Jaskin did in the Czech league. To be getting a regular shift on a pro Finn team says alot. Numbers remind me of Hellstrom...ha ha. No offense. Lundstrom is playing up and well too. The question is as it always has been...can you get either one of them over here?

No offense to Shattuck, Sonne, Nigro, Karpowich, Tremblay, Barriball, Shields or Cundari just being suspects...hopefully, they have some Pete Kozma in them???

BlueSinceBirth 11-15-2012 05:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PerryTurnbullfan (Post 55781201)
No offense to Shattuck, Sonne, Nigro, Karpowich, Tremblay, Barriball, Shields or Cundari just being suspects...hopefully, they have some Pete Kozma in them???

I agree with most of them being suspects except maybe the two goalies. I am pretty disappointed in how Karpowich has played this year though. I was really hoping he was a diamond in the rough considering how he carried a college program.

STL fan in IA 11-15-2012 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PerryTurnbullfan (Post 55781201)
No offense to Shattuck, Sonne, Nigro, Karpowich, Tremblay, Barriball, Shields or Cundari just being suspects...hopefully, they have some Pete Kozma in them???

I think you're underrating Nigro here. He's established himself as a much better bottom-6 forward than either Sonne or Shattock IMO. He still only has an outside shot of making it in the NHL but its still a much better shot than either Shattock or Sonne IMO.

I also don't think it makes any sense to write off a goalie like Tremblay. He's only 18!! He could easily develop into a player way more valuable than a whole host of players that have already been voted for.

Robb_K 11-15-2012 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STL fan in IA (Post 55784077)
I think you're underrating Nigro here. He's established himself as a much better bottom-6 forward than either Sonne or Shattock IMO. He still only has an outside shot of making it in the NHL but its still a much better shot than either Shattock or Sonne IMO.

I also don't think it makes any sense to write off a goalie like Tremblay. He's only 18!! He could easily develop into a player way more valuable than a whole host of players that have already been voted for.

I agree 100% here. Tremblay has very good reflexes and sees the play well. Positioning is learned. He has 9 years before he is 27, when the late goalies finally come into their own. Writing him (or ANY goalie) off at age 18 is irrational.

Lundstrom is another example of this.

PerryTurnbullfan 11-15-2012 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STL fan in IA (Post 55784077)
I think you're underrating Nigro here. He's established himself as a much better bottom-6 forward than either Sonne or Shattock IMO. He still only has an outside shot of making it in the NHL but its still a much better shot than either Shattock or Sonne IMO.

I also don't think it makes any sense to write off a goalie like Tremblay. He's only 18!! He could easily develop into a player way more valuable than a whole host of players that have already been voted for.

I debated saying 4 guys. You both are right. Tremblay should have been included. I just look at his save pctg., then remember the Q and defense don't go together.


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