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Lucbourdon 11-13-2012 06:52 PM

MLB Off-Season Thread | Jays Acquire Dickey From Mets
 
Bluejays just made one of the most ridiculous trades I have ever seen.

Toronto Blue Jays Receive:
Jose Reyes, SS
Josh Johnson, RHP
Mark Buehrle, LHP
Emilio Bonifacio, INF/OF
John Buck, C
4 million dollars

Miami Marlins Receive:
Henderson Alvarez, RHP
Yunel Escobar, SS
Adeiny Hechavarria, 2B/SS
Justin Nicolino, LHP
Jake Marisnick, OF
Jeff Mathis, C
Anthony DeScalfani, RHP

http://images.tsn.ca/images/stories/...36-218x150.jpg

John Swartzwelder 11-13-2012 06:55 PM

I don't know any of those players
are they better than Barry Bonds?

Scurr 11-13-2012 06:55 PM

I really like Alvarez and the little I've seen of Hechavarria but this is obviously huge for the Jays. The Yankees and Redsox are ripe for the picking, it's the perfect time to put this together.

Reverend Mayhem 11-13-2012 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scurr (Post 55747665)
I really like Alvarez and the little I've seen of Hechavarria but this is obviously huge for the Jays. The Yankees and Redsox are ripe for the picking, it's the perfect time to put this together.

That's why they are doing this now I think. Should be fun to watch Jays baseball again. This makes them exponentially better.

Royal Canuck 11-13-2012 07:13 PM

Jose Reyes should be a key part of our team, both offensively and defensively. Plus we address our need of pitchers by aqquiring Josh Johnson and more notably Mark Buehrle. Really, REALLY, Like this trade.

PoolChamp 11-13-2012 10:15 PM

Blue Jays huge trade!
 
This deserves its own thread.

The Blue Jays just acquired Jose Reyes, Mark Buehrle, and Josh Motherfckn Johnson. AA is the MAN!!!

http://www.tsn.ca/mlb/story/?id=409433

Discuss!

Durr 11-13-2012 10:21 PM

I am freakin' stoked. Screw the whole Toronto hate thing, but I love the Jays and I am so happy. Obviously there's some considerable risks, but damnit, this team needed to make a statement after several disappointing years that began with a lot of promise and hope.

StringerBell 11-13-2012 10:24 PM

Coincidentally happen to be two of my favourite pitchers in the majors. Couldn't be more excited for next season, although I'm not a big Reyes fan.

Royal Canuck 11-13-2012 10:31 PM

Merged the two threads, only makes sense.

PoolChamp 11-13-2012 10:34 PM

This will go down as one of the best trades in Blue Jays history. Truly amazing! WTF is Florida thinking? who cares!

Royal Canuck 11-13-2012 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by PoolChamp (Post 55753711)
This will go down as one of the best trades in Blue Jays history. Truly amazing! WTF is Florida thinking? who cares!

Literally. Even with a decked out stadium they only draw 10,000-12,000 to a game, on a good day. Reyes, Buehrle and Johnson will all have the chance to play in a baseball atmosphere and play with fans in the crowd.

PoolChamp 11-13-2012 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LuckyLager (Post 55753435)
Coincidentally happen to be two of my favourite pitchers in the majors. Couldn't be more excited for next season, although I'm not a big Reyes fan.

seriously? He's an amazing lead off guy. exactly what the Jays need.

Mason10 11-13-2012 10:53 PM

Love it so much.

Baseball season can't come sooner.

StringerBell 11-13-2012 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PoolChamp (Post 55754103)
seriously? He's an amazing lead off guy. exactly what the Jays need.

Not saying he's not a talented player, I've just never personally been a fan. I also think paying a guy who brings on average 4 WAR a season 20 million is a bit excessive. He's better than Escobar, no doubt, but not by as large a margin as the name recognition/player status would indicate.

This is a really good article on the trade that touches on my feelings concerning Reyes http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...rle/index.html

Hollywood Burrows 11-13-2012 11:08 PM

Huh, well if you're going to fail, best to fail spectacularly.

the sickness that makes all toronto sports team unwatchable crap will take these Jays. they may hold out longer, but they will suffer, same as the rest.

MeatTornado 11-13-2012 11:13 PM

Monster deal. Takes a lot of pressure off the other Jays starters, especially Romero, probably exactly what he needs. They'll still need to stay healthy if they want to get anywhere, but this can only help.

arsmaster 11-13-2012 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LuckyLager (Post 55754423)
Not saying he's not a talented player, I've just never personally been a fan. I also think paying a guy who brings on average 4 WAR a season 20 million is a bit excessive. He's better than Escobar, no doubt, but not by as large a margin as the name recognition/player status would indicate.

This is a really good article on the trade that touches on my feelings concerning Reyes http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...rle/index.html

Reyes is a HUGE upgrade on Escobar...he won the batting title 2 seasons ago, steals 40 bags in his sleep and gets on base....the blue jays have a great clubhouse full of Latin Americans...I think this is a tremendous move.

The pitchers acquired will also take pressure off Romero And Morrow, and should also help hem develop their stuff learning from these type of veterans.

Seatoo 11-14-2012 12:04 AM

I have no problem with anything we gave up, I need to research the contracts (duration not $) before I petition the Queen to knight AA. Wow, if the jays can replace Lind and Davis and if Santos stays healthy, I would put money down in Vegas on the jays making the playoffs.


Shhhh though don't tell me wife, she's from SF so cheering for an AL team is blasphemy!

PG Canuck 11-14-2012 12:04 AM

Good deal for the Jays, but I'm not getting excited until I see them in the playoffs. I remember at the start of this baseball season, people were expecting them to make the playoffs, and look what happened. I know health was a fairly big factor, but still.

I'm excited about the deal, but until the Jays can do something with it and become a threat, then I'll be pleased. I think the people that I've seen on Twitter, on the TSN comments etc calling them contenders all of a sudden is getting ahead of ourselves here. Doesn't matter how good you look on paper.

StringerBell 11-14-2012 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arsmaster (Post 55755249)
Reyes is a HUGE upgrade on Escobar...

I hope so, but I think I'll need to see it to believe it. Looking at their career averages they have remarkably similar per-game numbers outside of steals, with most of the differences in Reyes' favour, except Reyes makes triple what Escobar earns. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for the deal, I'm just saying the upgrade we're getting is coming predominantly in the rotation, not at shortstop. Agree to disagree if you want.

ProstheticConscience 11-14-2012 01:48 AM

This is how far we've fallen. A Blue Jays trade merits not only one but two threads here.

Please hockey gods, bring the NHL back. Please.

Hammer79 11-14-2012 01:59 AM

Pitching was already a weak spot for the Blue Jays, and when the injury bug hit, they went from a slightly above .500 team with an outside wild card chance to a team that badly tanked during a 25+ game span and never recovered. This team has a couple of good sluggers in Jose Bautista and Enwin Encarbacion to build around, and now they also have a base-stealing potential all star shortstop. They also pick up two starters that will slot in at #2 and #3 in the rotation. Boston is in the tank, NY is old, Baltimore and Tampa can be caught. Now is the time to load up. This will push their payroll above $100M, so this will make or break AA.

blueschooler 11-14-2012 02:20 AM

I'm still an M's fan first, but I really hope the Blue Jays do well. Maybe its the lack of hockey, but I can't wait for baseball to come back.

kevinsane 11-14-2012 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ProstheticConscience (Post 55756215)
This is how far we've fallen. A Blue Jays trade merits not only one but two threads here.

Please hockey gods, bring the NHL back. Please.

I don't mind baseball, but loathe all things Toronto, and all this "we" stuff in reference to Toronto's team is nausea inducing. How exactly did they become "we"? Because they play a mere 3000 miles away? Whoop de doo. I'll cheer for Canadian players, but it'll be a cold day in hell before I care what the Blew **** or the Crapturds accomplish.

Immature? Definitely. Subject to change? Hell, no.

Hammer79 11-14-2012 05:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevinsane (Post 55756377)
I don't mind baseball, but loathe all things Toronto, and all this "we" stuff in reference to Toronto's team is nausea inducing. How exactly did they become "we"? Because they play a mere 3000 miles away? Whoop de doo. I'll cheer for Canadian players, but it'll be a cold day in hell before I care what the Blew **** or the Crapturds accomplish.

Immature? Definitely. Subject to change? Hell, no.

Are you old enough to remember the '92 and '93 world series? If so, do you remember how crazy it drove the Americans that the championship team for their national pastime resided outside of the USA? Remember when the US Marines Corps flew our flag upside down during the national anthem?

http://www.bluejayhunter.com/2012/06...-canadian.html

I'm anti-Maple Leafs, not anti-Toronto... I don't mind seeing the Raptors do well, and I've always put the Jays above the Mariners. The Blue Jays home market includes the entire country, which is why their games are on sportsnet coast-to-coast. The Seattle Mariners management might appreciate Canadian fans filling their stands, but if they win, they won't likely recognize their Vancouver fan base.


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