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ROBERTSMITH 11-21-2012 04:45 PM

Edm-mtl
 
To Edmonton:
Carey Price
Alex Galchenyuk


To Montreal:
RNH
Devan Dubnyk
Oscar Kelfbom
2nd 2014

Tell me what you think

PeterForsberg 11-21-2012 04:49 PM

Hell no from MTL.

theboss 11-21-2012 04:52 PM

LOL try again

NGARV 11-21-2012 05:01 PM

No quite easily from Edmonton. Don't really see Price as elite, not worth the downgrade at C and a blue chip prospect for an upgrade on Doobie.

ROBERTSMITH 11-21-2012 05:05 PM

Yakupov and Gally get united you can see chemistry right away

Phion Keneuf 11-21-2012 05:06 PM

Habs laugh at this

CHill Seeker 11-21-2012 05:06 PM

montreal says no

Phion Keneuf 11-21-2012 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NGARV (Post 55945677)
No quite easily from Edmonton. Don't really see Price as elite, not worth the downgrade at C and a blue chip prospect for an upgrade on Doobie.

How is Price not elite lol?

He's a top 5 goalie in skill set and a top 2/3 goalie in trade value.

Uncle Howie 11-21-2012 05:07 PM

dont think value is far off myself but both teams say no

NGARV 11-21-2012 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phion Keneuf (Post 55945823)
How is Price not elite lol?

He's a top 5 goalie in skill set and a top 2/3 goalie in trade value.

Just don't see it, I think he is a tad overrated. Good defensive team in front of him with good but not great stats. Obviously he is solid and without a doubt a number 1 but at this point not worth a major center degrade and a great prospect. If you think he is tell me why not your arbitrary opinions.

LeHabsMan 11-21-2012 05:16 PM

Hell no from montreal. Price is a 5th overall, 25 year old, 3 time all-star goaltender and Galchenyuk is currently tearing it up in the OHL and was a 3rd overall pick.

RNH would be a great addition to Montreal but I do think that if Galchenyuk reaches his 75-85 point potential, he is more the type of player montreal needs. Galchenyuk is about 6"2, 205 pounds while RNH is about 6"1, 175 pounds.

Dubnyk would be a huge downgrade in net, Klefbom is a good prospect but Beaulieu, Tinordi and Ellis can fill that need and Montreal has 3 2nds already.

The way I see it, Montreal will get worse from this trade. Losing a starting goaltender and top prospect for a 1st line center that we will get in Galchenyuk, mediocre starting goaler and prospects.

jmdubois585 11-21-2012 05:23 PM

Montreal passes without thinking twice.

tempest2i 11-21-2012 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Habs4TheCup (Post 55946047)
Hell no from montreal. Price is a 5th overall, 25 year old, 3 time all-star goaltender and Galchenyuk is currently tearing it up in the OHL and was a 3rd overall pick.

RNH would be a great addition to Montreal but I do think that if Galchenyuk reaches his 75-85 point potential, he is more the type of player montreal needs. Galchenyuk is about 6"2, 205 pounds while RNH is about 6"1, 175 pounds.

Dubnyk would be a huge downgrade in net, Klefbom is a good prospect but Beaulieu, Tinordi and Ellis can fill that need and Montreal has 3 2nds already.

The way I see it, Montreal will get worse from this trade. Losing a starting goaltender and top prospect for a 1st line center that we will get in Galchenyuk, mediocre starting goaler and prospects.

Ha! All that means is he's a) young enough that he's willing to waste a weekend off during the season and b) popular.

All-star selections don't have the luster or importance that they once had.

The Nuge 11-21-2012 05:48 PM

No. RNH is not going anywhere. These proposals for Edmonton's big 4 really need to stop.

theboss 11-21-2012 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NGARV (Post 55945993)
Just don't see it, I think he is a tad overrated. Good defensive team in front of him with good but not great stats. Obviously he is solid and without a doubt a number 1 but at this point not worth a major center degrade and a great prospect. If you think he is tell me why not your arbitrary opinions.

I dont see anything special in RNH aswell. Overall the big 4 is overrated and very meh

Hitchslap 11-21-2012 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theboss (Post 55946935)
I dont see anything special in RNH aswell. Overall the big 4 is overrated and very meh

You clearly don't watch RNH much then. As someone who tries to judge guys as unbiased as possible and has been watching RNH since junior, the guy is unbelievable. If anyone on the oilers will impress you, he's the guy. I'm not denying I'm an oilers fan, but I never bought any of the Cogliano, Gagner and especially Nilsson hype.

Stupid trade, neither side would do it.

5RingsAndABeer 11-21-2012 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theboss (Post 55946935)
I dont see anything special in RNH aswell. Overall the big 4 is overrated and very meh

That's cute. Many professional hockey people (such as the WHL scout who posts here) think he's something special. I'll take their opinion over yours

The only one of the big 4 who might be overrated is Eberle. RNH is correctly rated, Yakupov is slightly underrated, and Hall is grossly underrated.

poetryinmotion 11-21-2012 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NGARV (Post 55945677)
No quite easily from Edmonton. Don't really see Price as elite, not worth the downgrade at C and a blue chip prospect for an upgrade on Doobie.

Montreal downgrades from Price to Dubynk while we have Gally who has elite potential like RNH. No quite easily from us too.

Analyzer 11-21-2012 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NGARV (Post 55945993)
Just don't see it, I think he is a tad overrated. Good defensive team in front of him with good but not great stats. Obviously he is solid and without a doubt a number 1 but at this point not worth a major center degrade and a great prospect. If you think he is tell me why not your arbitrary opinions.

Let me guess, you see Yakupov as top value, right ?

Revelation 11-21-2012 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5RingsAndABeer (Post 55947103)
That's cute. Many professional hockey people (such as the WHL scout who posts here) think he's something special. I'll take their opinion over yours

The only one of the big 4 who might be overrated is Eberle. RNH is correctly rated, Yakupov is slightly underrated, and Hall is grossly underrated.

I think your sarcasm detector is off.

NGARV 11-21-2012 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theboss (Post 55946935)
I dont see anything special in RNH aswell. Overall the big 4 is overrated and very meh

53 points in 62 as a sub 180 pound 18 year old. Amazing top end speed, with a ridiculous on ice vision with a quick accurate wrist shot. The number one overall pick has a chance to become one of the top point scorers in the world, he transformed the 27th PP to the 2nd with his ability to find seams on the ice and weave the puck through them onto the eventual goal scorer's stick. RNH has the ability to control the puck under pressure and can win battles in tight, when his size catches up to his peers watch out cuz "hiss hiss that's nuge's puck".

NGARV 11-21-2012 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Analyzer (Post 55947173)
Let me guess, you see Yakupov as top value, right ?

Top value from his draft? Yes. I have never seen Yakupov play besides highlights so I refrain from putting a judge on his value.

poetryinmotion 11-21-2012 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NGARV (Post 55947215)
53 points in 62 as a sub 180 pound 18 year old. Amazing top end speed, with a ridiculous on ice vision with a quick accurate wrist shot. The number one overall pick has a chance to become one of the top point scorers in the world, he transformed the 27th PP to the 2nd with his ability to find seams on the ice and weave the puck through them onto the eventual goal scorer's stick. RNH has the ability to control the puck under pressure and can win battles in tight, when his size catches up to his peers watch out cuz "hiss hiss that's nuge's puck".

I wonder who that reminds me of, only with the size to go with it and a year younger.

sharks9 11-21-2012 06:12 PM

Not a chance from MTL. A severe downgrade in net for a slight upgrade in center, no thanks. We'd rather just wait for Galchenyuk to develop so we can have our #1C, #1D and #1G.

NGARV 11-21-2012 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by poetryinmotion (Post 55947311)
I wonder who that reminds me of, only with the size to go with it and a year younger.

You can't compare what someone is doing against kids to what the other is doing against men. Right now the value between Gally and RNH isn't close. Nuge put up an 0.84 ppg in the NHL at age 18 while being the smallest guy on the ice most nights. He was the consensus first overall pick who has progressed well.


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