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ZARTONK 11-23-2012 09:55 AM

Longest career shutout streak (to start an NHL career)
 
I was thinking about this this morning for i dont know what reason, I tried to find the answer online but didnt really know where to look.

whats the longest shutout streak for a goalie, as in whats the longest it took for a goalie to get scored on for the first time in his career...

im sure there have been goalies that had a shutout on their first games, but how long were they able to keep the shutout going for?

Vikke 11-23-2012 10:06 AM

Let's ping pnep about this. He might know.

missingmika 11-23-2012 10:08 AM

Looks like it is Matt Hackett at 102:48, set in 2011 with the Wild.

Propane Nightmares 11-23-2012 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Nizzle (Post 55978833)

He's asking who started off their career with the longest shutout streak, it's pretty difficult to find.

If you're looking for the normal longest shutout streak, I'm pretty sure it's Brian Boucher

sharks9 11-23-2012 10:56 AM

It's Alec Connell, at 461 minutes, 29 seconds.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...l)#Goaltending

Shredator 11-23-2012 11:18 AM

Brian Boucher for the Phoenix Coyotes had 5 straight games with a shutout.
I know thats not the answer youre waiting for but thats pretty incredible

bruinsfan46 11-23-2012 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by missingmika (Post 55978839)
Looks like it is Matt Hackett at 102:48, set in 2011 with the Wild.

Yep: http://m.startribune.com/sports/?id=135345073&c=y

Confirmed by Elias Sports Bureau.

Doctor No 11-23-2012 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by bruinsfan46 (Post 55980369)
Yep: http://m.startribune.com/sports/?id=135345073&c=y

Confirmed by Elias Sports Bureau.

Wow - I had no idea that my site was mentioned there! :amazed:

Anyhow, it's definitely Hackett, at 102:48:
http://hockeygoalies.org/bio/hackettm.html

Breaking the record set by Dave Gatherum (100:21) in October of 1953:
http://www.hockeygoalies.org/bio/gatherum.html

I'm not sure who held the record prior to Gatherum. It's interesting that Hackett still doesn't have an NHL shutout to his name (his shutout streak started in relief). He also didn't allow a goal in his next three appearances (all in relief).

Doctor No 11-24-2012 02:33 PM

Here's my current list of NHL/WHA goaltenders who began their big league careers with shutouts.

NHL:
Hal Winkler (November 16, 1926)
Tiny Thompson (November 15, 1928)
Alfie Moore (January 30, 1937)
Bob Perreault (December 17, 1955)
Marcel Paille (November 2, 1957)
Dave Gatherum (October 11, 1953)
Andre Gill (December 23, 1967)
Wayne Thomas (January 14, 1973)
Gary Simmons (October 11, 1974)
Mario Lessard (October 26, 1978)
Robbie Moore (March 6, 1979)
Mario Gosselin (February 26, 1984)
Daren Puppa (November 1, 1985)
Mike Fountain (November 14, 1986)
Jussi Markkanen (November 28, 2001)
Michael Leighton (January 8, 2003)
Yann Danis (October 12, 2005)
Mike Smith (October 21, 2006)
Al Montoya (April 1, 2009)

WHA:
Peter Donnelly (October 15, 1972)
Ron Grahame (December 29, 1973)
Bob Blanchet (December 14, 1974)

Note that I think that the list is incomplete (perhaps pnep has the details that I'm missing). Notable omissions include Evgeni Nabokov (it was his first start, but not NHL debut) and Matt Hackett (similar).

Canadiens1958 11-24-2012 05:38 PM

Claude Pronovost
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Taco MacArthur (Post 56000213)
Here's my current list of NHL/WHA goaltenders who began their big league careers with shutouts.

NHL:
Hal Winkler (November 16, 1926)
Tiny Thompson (November 15, 1928)
Alfie Moore (January 30, 1937)
Bob Perreault (December 17, 1955)
Marcel Paille (November 2, 1957)
Dave Gatherum (October 11, 1953)
Andre Gill (December 23, 1967)
Wayne Thomas (January 14, 1973)
Gary Simmons (October 11, 1974)
Mario Lessard (October 26, 1978)
Robbie Moore (March 6, 1979)
Mario Gosselin (February 26, 1984)
Daren Puppa (November 1, 1985)
Mike Fountain (November 14, 1986)
Jussi Markkanen (November 28, 2001)
Michael Leighton (January 8, 2003)
Yann Danis (October 12, 2005)
Mike Smith (October 21, 2006)
Al Montoya (April 1, 2009)

WHA:
Peter Donnelly (October 15, 1972)
Ron Grahame (December 29, 1973)
Bob Blanchet (December 14, 1974)

Note that I think that the list is incomplete (perhaps pnep has the details that I'm missing). Notable omissions include Evgeni Nabokov (it was his first start, but not NHL debut) and Matt Hackett (similar).

Claude Pronovost, January 14, 1956:

http://www.flyershistory.com/cgi-bin....cgi?H19550122

Hal Winkler was a western veteran before consolidation and had numerous western shutouts and had played in SC Final for a western representative:

http://www.hockey-reference.com/play...winklha01.html

He had a shutout in his first NHL appearance big not begin his big league career with a shutout.

Killion 11-24-2012 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Canadiens1958 (Post 56003771)

...unfortunately, that link doesnt work. Ominously, says its "under attack". Ack!...
as stated above, I thought it was Alec Connell at 461mins, 29 seconds with Ottawa in 1927.

Canadiens1958 11-24-2012 06:51 PM

Explorer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Killion (Post 56004931)
...unfortunately, that link doesnt work. Ominously, says its "under attack". Ack!...
as stated above, I thought it was Alec Connell at 461mins, 29 seconds with Ottawa in 1927.

Works with explorer. Explained last few posts of the sticky.

Mike Farkas 11-24-2012 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Killion (Post 56004931)
...unfortunately, that link doesnt work. Ominously, says its "under attack". Ack!...
as stated above, I thought it was Alec Connell at 461mins, 29 seconds with Ottawa in 1927.

This is just to start a career, Killion. Connell has the longest shutout streak in general though, yes. 8 shutouts in 9 games in that streak, I do believe as well. Gave up zip for six games, then let up 2, and then followed it up with back-to-back shutouts...ho-hum...

Doctor No 11-24-2012 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Canadiens1958 (Post 56003771)
Claude Pronovost, January 14, 1956:

Good call with Pronovost - I even had it on Pronovost's page, but missed it when I was tallying:

http://hockeygoalies.org/bio/pronovost.html

Preisst 11-25-2012 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taco MacArthur (Post 55980971)
Wow - I had no idea that my site was mentioned there! :amazed:

Anyhow, it's definitely Hackett, at 102:48:
http://hockeygoalies.org/bio/hackettm.html

Breaking the record set by Dave Gatherum (100:21) in October of 1953:
http://www.hockeygoalies.org/bio/gatherum.html

I'm not sure who held the record prior to Gatherum. It's interesting that Hackett still doesn't have an NHL shutout to his name (his shutout streak started in relief). He also didn't allow a goal in his next three appearances (all in relief).

In my mind getting the shutout minutes in relief diminishes the accomplishment in respect to the thread subject title. Thats just me though. I'd give it to the guy who actually started and played a complete game(s).

Victorious Secret 11-28-2012 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Preisst (Post 56026565)
In my mind getting the shutout minutes in relief diminishes the accomplishment in respect to the thread subject title. Thats just me though. I'd give it to the guy who actually started and played a complete game(s).

Really? I'd say its harder depending on what happened. Hackett played 59 minutes and didn't allow a goal in his NHL debut. Harding gave up a goal and got hurt. Pretty sure Hackett deserves every part in this record.

Preisst 12-10-2012 10:14 PM

Yea really. But I probably should have gotten more facts like how much he actually played in relief. 59 minutes is fine, basically a full game, but how many minutes did he play in the next 3 games in which he came in in a relief effort?

Doctor No 12-10-2012 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Preisst (Post 56438929)
Yea really. But I probably should have gotten more facts like how much he actually played in relief. 59 minutes is fine, basically a full game, but how many minutes did he play in the next 3 games in which he came in in a relief effort?

That's irrelevant to the discussion, isn't it, since the shutout streak was over at that point?

Hackett's first two NHL games were both (essentially) of full game length.

Doctor No 12-10-2012 11:31 PM

Speaking of this thread, I put this FAQ entry together the other day:
http://hockeygoalies.org/faq/debut-shutout.html

Preisst 12-12-2012 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taco MacArthur (Post 56441049)
That's irrelevant to the discussion, isn't it, since the shutout streak was over at that point?

Hackett's first two NHL games were both (essentially) of full game length.

I understood it that his shutout streak started in relief and carried forward in the next three games he played which were also all in relief. Guess I misunderstood.

Doctor No 12-12-2012 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Preisst (Post 56471035)
I understood it that his shutout streak started in relief and carried forward in the next three games he played which were also all in relief. Guess I misunderstood.

No worries - and that's right; his first game was 58:49 in length (he replaced Josh Harding 1:11 into the game), and he went 43:59 in his second game before Dustin Penner scored.


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