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LadyStanley 11-26-2012 05:42 PM

COG to vote on revised lease 11/27 (UPD: approved)
 
http://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/n...-new-308m.html

New deal is $308m

Quote:

The council voted 4-2 last week to move forward with the arena plan.
The new deal replaces a previous $300 million arena deal between Glendale and Jamison. That deal was never finalized by the city. Interim city manager Horatio Skeete worked out the new deal with Jamison but then said at last week’s preliminary vote that he did not endorse the deal because of its costs to the city, including prompting the need for worker layoffs.
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They worry that if a deal isn’t done the Coyotes will end up leaving the Phoenix market, hurting the city-owned arena and Westgate Entertainment District.

JMROWE 11-27-2012 09:28 PM

If the election earlier this month is any indication the coyotes are road kill in Arizona & will relocate to ethier to Quebec City or Hamilton in time for next season & this whole fiasco will be finally over with & the league can finally move on . :yo:

Puckschmuck* 11-27-2012 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMROWE (Post 56080437)
If the election earlier this month is any indication the coyotes are road kill in Arizona & will relocate to ethier to Quebec City or Hamilton in time for next season & this whole fiasco will be finally over with & the league can finally move on . :yo:

LOL dude, Hamilton ain't happening for at least a decade. It's Quebec City, Seattle or bust.

JMROWE 11-27-2012 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puckschmuck (Post 56080549)
LOL dude, Hamilton ain't happening for at least a decade. It's Quebec City, Seattle or bust.

I diagree for couple reasons 1. Seattle is still a long way off from putting shovel in the ground for there new arena so in my opinion seattle is not even an option right now & that is why Hamilton & Quebec City are the only options right now to move the coyotes too . 2. With Global Spectrum\Live nation taken over running Copps Coliseum in the spring & with there main goal being bringing an NHL. team to Hamilton & with global spectrum being in the NHL. inner circle I say there will be an NHL. team in Hamilton within the next 5 years .

DyerMaker66 11-27-2012 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puckschmuck (Post 56080549)
LOL dude, Hamilton ain't happening for at least a decade. It's Quebec City, Seattle or bust.

While I agree with what you say I think your timeline is off. It'll be 5-10 years, imo.

DyerMaker66 11-27-2012 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMROWE (Post 56081335)
I diagree for couple reasons 1. Seattle is still a long way off from putting shovel in the ground for there new arena so in my opinion seattle is not even an option right now & that is why Hamilton & Quebec City are the only options right now to move the coyotes too . 2. With Global Spectrum\Live nation taken over running Copps Coliseum in the spring & with there main goal being bringing an NHL. team to Hamilton & with global spectrum being in the NHL. inner circle I say there will be an NHL. team in Hamilton within the next 5 years .

I agree and I think it's why the Bulldogs are being pushed out of Copps: GS will have an OHL team and an NHL play in "their" arena, but the city won't support the AHL, too.

LadyStanley 11-28-2012 12:31 AM

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=410428

COG passes arena deal 4-2.


Next stop, NHL BOG meeting (next week) to finalize purchase?

veganhunter 11-28-2012 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LadyStanley (Post 56084827)
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=410428

COG passes arena deal 4-2.


Next stop, NHL BOG meeting (next week) to finalize purchase?

If I recall correctly he said during the meeting he wouldn't be finalizing the purchase for another 30-60 days

powerstuck 11-28-2012 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by veganhunter (Post 56085639)
If I recall correctly he said during the meeting he wouldn't be finalizing the purchase for another 30-60 days

Didn't Shruggs (mayor) wanted to impose a deadline somewhere in January for the purchase for the deal to hold ?

Fidel Astro 11-28-2012 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by veganhunter (Post 56085639)
If I recall correctly he said during the meeting he wouldn't be finalizing the purchase for another 30-60 days

It'll be at least two weeks, for sure. :sarcasm:

IU Hawks fan 11-28-2012 08:10 AM

Glad they are getting this done.

Shawa666 11-28-2012 08:27 AM

Hello GWI, Referendum petitions and co.

LadyStanley 11-28-2012 10:44 AM

BTW, quoted article has 1/31/13 deadline from COG to Jamison on purchase.

JMROWE 11-28-2012 11:47 AM

This whole coyotes fiasco is going to continue to drag on because The goldwater institute is going to be all over this do to the fact that taxpayers are going to be the ones flipping the bill to prop up a team that no one wants & you can bet your bottom dollar that if there is a referendum on this if won't go in the coyotes favour & they will move to ethier Quebec City or Hamilton in time for the 2013\2014 season .

LadyStanley 11-29-2012 10:18 AM

http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2...coyotes-lease/

Mayor-elect not happy new lease approved: “I’m not overly happy with the decision made, but we’ll take that decision and run with it the best we can.”

LadyStanley 11-29-2012 11:04 AM

http://coyotes.nhl.tv/team/console.j...d=rss-whatsnew

Coyotes video of meeting/vote

JMROWE 11-29-2012 01:12 PM

Even if this deal with jamison gose through I don't see the coyotes staying in Arizona for no more than 3 years & I am being generous because I don't think the coyotes will survive the lockout & will move after next season . Also I see GWI. turnning its ugly head again & will try to force an injunction on the city of Glendale to stop this lease agreement that Jamison made with glendale so they can petition for a referendum on this lease agreement . Because this new lease agreement is going to use taxpayer dollars to help prop up the coyotes which means taxes will go up & in a republican state it just won't fly so if there is referendum it is likely not to go in the coyotes favour .

LadyStanley 11-30-2012 06:39 PM

http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blo...cLellan/174181

Player reaction

Confucius 12-01-2012 05:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LadyStanley (Post 56089721)
BTW, quoted article has 1/31/13 deadline from COG to Jamison on purchase.

Deadline?:laugh:

LadyStanley 12-07-2012 11:09 AM

http://www.azcentral.com/community/g...s-success.html

Jamison set to make Phoenix Coyotes a success.

cheswick 12-07-2012 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LadyStanley (Post 56338887)
http://www.azcentral.com/community/g...s-success.html

Jamison set to make Phoenix Coyotes a success.

From the article:
Quote:

Some question whether the Coyotes can ever be profitable.

“With some hard work and some luck, that’s where we want to be,” he said.
Seriously? His business plan is to make the team profitable with luck? How did he get investors?

htpwn 12-07-2012 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LadyStanley (Post 56338887)
http://www.azcentral.com/community/g...s-success.html

Jamison set to make Phoenix Coyotes a success.

From the article:
Quote:

Purchasing the arena, which the city spent $180 million to open in 2003, could rid Glendale of that debt payment.

It’s unclear whether it would end the arena-management fee the city pledged, averaging $15 million annually the next 20 years.

Interim City Manager Horatio Skeete said that would have to be negotiated.
:laugh: What?

OthmarAmmann 12-07-2012 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htpwn (Post 56340521)
From the article:


:laugh: What?

I was just going to quote the same thing!!!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Puckschmuck* 12-07-2012 12:27 PM

Okay. In all seriousness, how can anyone possibly believe this deal is remotely positive based on all the knowledge (or lack thereof) we have up to this point? I know that most pro-Coyotes people refuse to take their rose-colored glasses off, but even still, shades of reality must filter through occasionally, even to the biggest homers out there.

This deal is such a gigantic fail and waste of Glendale's money. If this is the best deal people can come up with the prop up NHL hockey in the desert, then it's pretty apparent that there is no real market for professional hockey in Arizona. And after 16 years of mega-money losses, there never will be.

GuelphStormer 12-07-2012 01:33 PM

interesting video of jamison and perhaps indicative of deceit ...

looking up and to the left (from the viewer's perspective, the subject's right) is the standard microexpression indicator of deeply accessing the creative side of the brain and thus 'lying'. looking up to the other side (our right, their left) is indicative of accessing memory, or 'recalling' the truth.

look at 1:17 and again at 1:19, just prior to him stating "and now I think we have the opportunity to cut the deal with the NHL and try to finish this". he seems to be accessing the creative side of his brain, not the factual side, and thus making things up .. lying.

if i were a betting man, i'd say he does NOT think he has an opportunity to cut the deal with the NHL and finish this.

i'd bet he's either lying, or he is so uncertain of his investors that he is not at all confident that he will finish this deal and does not consider it a fact.


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