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Woodhouse 11-27-2012 11:00 PM

AHL Amerks vs Rampage Wed Nov 28 7:05PM ET
 
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AHL GDT: AMERKS (9-6-1) vs RAMPAGE (4-10-3) – WED NOV 28 – 7:05PM ET – AHL Live, WHTK-AM

11.22 – Rochester Amerks want to ramp up goal production (D&C – Kevin Oklobzija)

11.23 – Brian Flynn's hat trick propels Amerks past Albany (D&C – Kevin Oklobzija)

11.23 – Brennan on pace to shatter 40-year-old Amerk record (D&C – Kevin Oklobzija)

11.24 – Rampage Fall in 11 Round Shootout (San Antonio Rampage – Media Relations)

11.25 – Rampage Clipped by Texas Stars, 5-3 (San Antonio Rampage – Media Relations)

11.25 – Rampage Skein at 8 — Road Beckons — Changes Too? (San Antonio Express-News – Tony Uminski)

11.27 – Shore on right path (AHL – Kristian Limas)

11.27 – Rochester Amerks' T.J. Brennan working on his defense (D&C – Kevin Oklobzija)

11.27 – Rochester Amerks game moved to Buffalo (D&C – Kevin Oklobzija)
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ROCHESTER AMERICANS (Beat Coverage)

Tonight's Lineup


71 Marcus Foligno - 22 Phil Varone - 15 Evan Rankin
91 Frederick Roy - 12 Kevin Porter (C) - 10 Brian Flynn
74 Nick Tarnasky - 32 Rick Schofield - 25 Mark Mancari (A)
44 Drew Schiestel - 24 Jonathan Parker - 29 Maxime Legault

7 Brayden McNabb - 13 Mark Pysyk
2 Joe Finley - 20 Nick Crawford
3 TJ Brennan (A) - 4 Alex Biega

33 David Leggio
49 Connor Knapp

Roster Notes

Luke Adam (LBI), Zemgus Girgensons (UBI), Cody Hodgson (hand; weeks), Matt MacKenzie (UBI), Kevin Sundher (UBI)
and Corey Tropp (knee; season-ending) are sidelined with injuries. Jerome Gauthier-Leduc is tonight's lone healthy
scratch for Rochester.


SAN ANTONIO RAMPAGE (Beat Coverage)

NHL Affiliate & Notables


Florida Panthers: 3 Alex Petrovic, 24 Quinton Howden, 25 Colby Robak, 30 Jacob Markstrom, 36 Drew Shore.

Tonight's Lineup

14 Jean-Francois Jacques - 36 Drew Shore - 26 Jon Rheault
28 James Wright - 27 Greg Rallo (A) - 9 Jonathan Hazen
32 Scott Timmins - 24 Quinton Howden - 15 Eric Selleck
39 Justin Vaive - 12 Jared Gomes - 8 David Pacan

25 Colby Robak - 5 Tyson Strachan (A)
2 Michael Caruso - 3 Alex Petrovic
43 Nolan Yonkman (C) - 7 John Lee

30 Jacob Markstrom
1 Dov Grumet-Morris

Roster Notes

Jason DeSantis, Andre Deveaux, Michael Houser and Casey Wellman are the scratches for San Antonio tonight.

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A/V CLUB

11.23 – Highlights of Rochester's 5-2 win over Albany on Friday. <3:34>

11.24 – Highlights of San Antonio's 3-2 SOL to Abbotsford on Saturday. <4:16>

11.25 – Highlights of San Antonio's 5-3 loss to Texas on Sunday. <3:31>


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DJN21 11-28-2012 12:01 AM

44 Drew Schiestel playing offense? are we that hard pressed?

Woodhouse 11-28-2012 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by DJN21 (Post 56084307)
44 Drew Schiestel playing offense? are we that hard pressed?

There's only eleven healthy forwards on the current roster, so there's no option but to dress the seven defense. Without any recalls or signings, I'd say they're just playing through the injuries tonight hoping someone gets healthy for the weekend games. Adam's the closest and is hopeful for a weekend return, so it could be seven defense for just one game; plus, it's against a team that has been putrid, losing eight straight, and has zero locked-out NHLers.

...or maybe Lagace's in-transit from Bakersfield or wherever and the practice lines were simply that, practice lines. :dunno:

DJN21 11-28-2012 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Woodhouse (Post 56084957)
There's only eleven healthy forwards on the current roster, so there's no option but to dress the seven defense. Without any recalls or signings, I'd say they're just playing through the injuries tonight hoping someone gets healthy for the weekend games. Adam's the closest and is hopeful for a weekend return, so it could be seven defense for just one game; plus, it's against a team that has been putrid, losing eight straight, and has zero locked-out NHLers.

...or maybe Lagace's in-transit from Bakersfield or wherever and the practice lines were simply that, practice lines. :dunno:

oh I hear u Bro, more frustrated confusion than anything...

AmerksPuck 11-28-2012 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Woodhouse (Post 56084957)
There's only eleven healthy forwards on the current roster, so there's no option but to dress the seven defense. Without any recalls or signings, I'd say they're just playing through the injuries tonight hoping someone gets healthy for the weekend games. Adam's the closest and is hopeful for a weekend return, so it could be seven defense for just one game; plus, it's against a team that has been putrid, losing eight straight, and has zero locked-out NHLers.
...or maybe Lagace's in-transit from Bakersfield or wherever and the practice lines were simply that, practice lines. :dunno:

This may be true but our line-up looks awful tonight. Looks to me like we have a first line, 2/3's of a second line and 2 fourth lines- we need to hope for a special teams battle tonight and have some success on the PP.

Zip15 11-28-2012 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Woodhouse (Post 56084957)
There's only eleven healthy forwards on the current roster, so there's no option but to dress the seven defense. Without any recalls or signings, I'd say they're just playing through the injuries tonight hoping someone gets healthy for the weekend games. Adam's the closest and is hopeful for a weekend return, so it could be seven defense for just one game; plus, it's against a team that has been putrid, losing eight straight, and has zero locked-out NHLers.

...or maybe Lagace's in-transit from Bakersfield or wherever and the practice lines were simply that, practice lines. :dunno:

Maybe so, but with a goaltender of Markstrom's calibre they'll always have a chance. Besides, we probably only have one locked-out NHL'er in our lineup right now: Foligno. (McNabb is not yet a full-time NHL'er, especially with eight one-way contracts currently on Buffalo's books.)

BalticWarrior 11-28-2012 10:21 AM

Did i miss something, is Girgensons injured?

Jacob582 11-28-2012 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Woodhouse (Post 56084957)
There's only eleven healthy forwards on the current roster, so there's no option but to dress the seven defense. Without any recalls or signings, I'd say they're just playing through the injuries tonight hoping someone gets healthy for the weekend games. Adam's the closest and is hopeful for a weekend return, so it could be seven defense for just one game; plus, it's against a team that has been putrid, losing eight straight, and has zero locked-out NHLers.

...or maybe Lagace's in-transit from Bakersfield or wherever and the practice lines were simply that, practice lines. :dunno:

There were options. They decided to recall Shiestel over Lagace, Boychuk and Szyd.

I feel they made the right call.

Zip15 11-28-2012 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Helo (Post 56089265)
Did i miss something, is Girgensons injured?

Yes, upper-body injury sustained in Friday's game. I guess he took a couple big hits in that one.

tsujimoto74 11-28-2012 11:35 AM

That is so many injuries. Anyone hear any updates on when we can expect Hodgson back in the line-up?

SublimeNightmare 11-28-2012 11:56 AM

Sabres last year and now Rochester this season. The amount of injuries that the teams have had in recent memory is staggering. Injuries are unavoidable but it is the sheer number of them causing the teams to play musical chairs with the lines is frustrating.

Jacob582 11-28-2012 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zip15 (Post 56089625)
Yes, upper-body injury sustained in Friday's game. I guess he took a couple big hits in that one.

The hit Girgensons took behind the net looked nasty.

Jacob582 11-28-2012 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SublimeNightmare (Post 56091315)
Sabres last year and now Rochester this season. The amount of injuries that the teams have had in recent memory is staggering. Injuries are unavoidable but it is the sheer number of them causing the teams to play musical chairs with the lines is frustrating.

And just think- the Amerks haven't had to worry about call ups.

Jacob582 11-28-2012 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by tsujimoto74 (Post 56090825)
That is so many injuries. Anyone hear any updates on when we can expect Hodgson back in the line-up?

Kevin O mentioned Hodgson was going to get looked at by the doctor this week. He's cleared to skate. Today's tweet:
Buffalo Sabres‏@BuffaloSabres: "Hodgson and Adam skating in practice but still wearing red for no contact"

I'm no doctor, but if he broke his thumb, I would think it would take 6-7 weeks to heal. That would land him coming back Christmas time.

UncleBenny 11-28-2012 12:11 PM

Good thing we didn't sign any of those guys from last year that are playing in Europe now in case we had injuries. No room in this lineup for Turnbull, Whitmore, etc.

Jacob582 11-28-2012 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by UncleBenny (Post 56091685)
Good thing we didn't sign any of those guys from last year that are playing in Europe now in case we had injuries. No room in this lineup for Turnbull, Whitmore, etc.

We had 20 forward in training camp. So no room in the lineup.

sabrefan27 11-28-2012 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jacob582 (Post 56091903)
We had 20 forward in training camp. So no room in the lineup.

But you're including guys like Lagace, Parker, Szydlowski and Boychuk who have no business on the Amerks or in the AHL. Plus Tropp was lost for the year on opening night. There was room and an opportunity. But we're talking about Regier.

AmerksPuck 11-28-2012 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sabrefan27 (Post 56092773)
But you're including guys like Lagace, Parker, Szydlowski and Boychuk who have no business on the Amerks or in the AHL. Plus Tropp was lost for the year on opening night. There was room and an opportunity. But we're talking about Regier.

Would you have included Flynn in that group at the start of the season? Without injuries and a chance to play, would you still be saying the same about him?

pigpen65 11-28-2012 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmerksPuck (Post 56093581)
Would you have included Flynn in that group at the start of the season? Without injuries and a chance to play, would you still be saying the same about him?

Just about to post the exact same thing. Last year Rankin would have been included. Just how it is.

sabrefan27 11-28-2012 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmerksPuck (Post 56093581)
Would you have included Flynn in that group at the start of the season? Without injuries and a chance to play, would you still be saying the same about him?

No I wouldn't. Flynn only played a couple games last season. Szydlowski had all year and was worthless. Same for Parker and Lagace. Rankin was also a different case because he got called up and was excellent right away.

Jacob582 11-28-2012 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sabrefan27 (Post 56092773)
But you're including guys like Lagace, Parker, Szydlowski and Boychuk who have no business on the Amerks or in the AHL. Plus Tropp was lost for the year on opening night. There was room and an opportunity. But we're talking about Regier.

There was room for Flynn to enter the lineup.

And we're talking about Regier, whose team scouted and signed Flynn as an UFA.

You win some, you lose some. Good UFA prospect finds by the Sabres: Varone, Finley, Flynn, Roy. The other players are questionable calls. But your 15th forward depth player for any team has no business being in that league. Doesn't mean they aren't the option to fill in short term if things get that bad.

sabrefan27 11-28-2012 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jacob582 (Post 56094455)
There was room for Flynn to enter the lineup.

And we're talking about Regier, whose team scouted and signed Flynn as an UFA.

You win some, you lose some. Good UFA prospect finds by the Sabres: Varone, Finley, Flynn, Roy. The other players are questionable calls. But your 15th forward depth player for any team has no business being in that league. Doesn't mean they aren't the option to fill in short term if things get that bad.

Sorry we just disagree. Flynn was going to get time and prove himself even if Tropp didn't get hurt. But he did. You lose your 1st line winger on game 1, go out and find a replacement. That's my opinion.

Jacob582 11-28-2012 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sabrefan27 (Post 56094923)
Sorry we just disagree. Flynn was going to get time and prove himself even if Tropp didn't get hurt. But he did. You lose your 1st line winger on game 1, go out and find a replacement. That's my opinion.

Just wasn't going to happen through trade (with the lockout) or free agency.

They already had his replacement (next RW on the depth chart needs to step up. Then enter 13th forward). It just so happens that their 13th forward was able to step up and be a top winger on this team. Kudos to Regier and his team.

sabrefan27 11-28-2012 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jacob582 (Post 56096945)
Just wasn't going to happen through trade (with the lockout) or free agency.

They already had his replacement (next RW on the depth chart needs to step up. Then enter 13th forward). It just so happens that their 13th forward was able to step up and be a top winger on this team. Kudos to Regier and his team.

No, they didn't find a replacement. Flynn? No, he was going to play anyway. And Whitmore was toiling away in St. John's on a PTO.

You can try baiting me with your "kudos to Regier" and your lame link earlier, but it's not going to work.

tsujimoto74 11-28-2012 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sabrefan27 (Post 56094923)
Sorry we just disagree. Flynn was going to get time and prove himself even if Tropp didn't get hurt. But he did. You lose your 1st line winger on game 1, go out and find a replacement. That's my opinion.

How would Regier "find a replacement" with the lockout going on? We had 2 (should be) top line AHL RWs in Tropp and Mancari. Mancari obviously hasn't lived up to expectations so far, and Tropp got an unfortunate injury, but it's not like we didn't have enough depth/talent there going into the season.


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