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UsernameWasTaken 11-28-2012 11:33 AM

Haggerty: Jacobs should be held responsible
 
I feel that this guy really deserves his own thread.

I have to admit, I was only vaguely familiar with him before the lockout - and only really knew about him in terms of NHL labour relations.

Reading some of the posts on this board, it seems like over the years he's screwed his own team on a number of occasions - although, I assume he's not as bad as Ballard - or even Wirtz were.

Today, Joe Haggerty discusses his role in the lockout (as well as the one in 04/05):

Haggerty: Jacobs should be held responsible

http://www.csnne.com/hockey-boston-b...91&feedID=3352

I thought this was charming:

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Here’s a story illustrating the self-interested, tyrannical leadership at play on the NHL’s side:

Winnipeg Jets representation at a recent NHL Board of Governors meeting piped up to say it was opposed to engaging in a long, bloody lockout sure to stymie their franchise’s momentum and hurt the game of hockey.

It wasn’t Winnipeg owner Mark Chipman, but rather one of the alternate governors representing the Jets.

Bruins Principal Owner and Chairman of the Board of Governors Jeremy Jacobs answered by reprimanding the Winnipeg representative as one of the “new kids on the block” and informed him that he would know when he was allowed to speak in the NHL board room.

mikelvl 11-28-2012 11:35 AM

Just read this on the Boston board. He is the cause. Why doesn't anyone see that?! So long as he is in charge, this will never end.

Killion 11-28-2012 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by UsernameWasTaken (Post 56090787)
I thought this was charming:

Pretty typical behaviour Im afraid. Alpha Male dynamic going on
there. And ya, most deserving of his own thread is Jeremy Jacobs.

Beef Invictus 11-28-2012 11:50 AM

The more I learn of Jacobs the less I like him.

Killion 11-28-2012 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Cheesesteak Invictus (Post 56091167)
The more I learn of Jacobs the less I like him.

Then avert thine eyes Cheesesteak.
This is going to get ugly. JJInvictus. :naughty:

Seedling 11-28-2012 11:56 AM

Guy has always been disliked by fans. He has always been a hard liner on salaries. No surprises here for me.

Blue And Orange 11-28-2012 12:04 PM

As an Oilers fan, I respect the Bruins and like this team (cheered for them I the 2011 Finals against the Nucks! :)), but man, the owner is the biggest piece of **** ever.

PJ StockBB 11-28-2012 12:13 PM

I'm actually glad people outside of Boston are starting to see how big of a piece of **** this guy is. he is a ******* who doesn't care at all about hockey.

the guy has turned so many people in Boston off to the NHL it is disheartening. so many old Bruins fans still wont pay attention to the Bruins because of this guy and the way he has handled the team in the past. i gave him a little respect for spending money since the cap was put in place and finally bringing a championship team to Boston. but after reading more and more about his role in this lockout he can go **** himself again

Fugu 11-28-2012 12:37 PM

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Bruins Principal Owner and Chairman of the Board of Governors Jeremy Jacobs answered by reprimanding the Winnipeg representative as one of the “new kids on the block” and informed him that he would know when he was allowed to speak in the NHL board room.

That’s the kind of hawkish, dismissive, bully mentality that's driving the bus for the NHL lockout that's now cancelled games through the middle of December.
Here I thought that they just couldn't speak publicly or risk $1 million in fines. Maybe it's time they all spoke up.

You know, I've heard about Jacobs attitude for years now, but it still doesn't make sense that a majority of owners would just sit there and follow along like sheep. They each have a vote. Now getting on the BOG agenda is another thing. The Exec Committee meets with Gary and Gary sets up what they will discuss. From another report, we learned that Bettman basically does a Powerpoint presentation and that there is no 'discussion.' Odd.

GoneFullHextall 11-28-2012 12:41 PM

the guy is bad for hockey. hell he is bad for sports period. guys like this should never own sports franchises.

Erik Estrada 11-28-2012 12:47 PM

Nothing new under the sun. In 1995, after 100+ days of lockout the owners forced the PA to capitulate. Press universal in saying it was a KO on the Players. Trevor Linden said "we're getting *****"... Boston had voted against the deal with 6 other teams...

Fishhead 11-28-2012 12:49 PM

It just shows what kind of individual he is as a person.

Winnipeg is new to the game and obviously won't have the kind of experience dealing with this kind of thing that most of the owners do, sure. Their stance as a franchise, though, still holds weight as they are as much a part of this mess as any other owner.

But even if his statement has a bit of merit, vocalizing it in such a demeaning, jerkface way has no place among professionals. These are the kinds of people I don't take seriously. If you can't keep your emotions in check and feel the need to demean others when you speak, I could really care less what you have to say.

Number8 11-28-2012 12:50 PM

Fortunately and unfortunately Boston/New England has the very best and the very worst when it comes to ownership.

Bob Kraft is the epitome of class and understands what an important piece of the community a professional team represents. He's a smart businessman but somehow doesn't feel the need to squeeze every last nickel out of the equation. When labor disputes arise in the NFL, expect Bob Kraft to be a part of the solution not the problem. Kraft appears to be universally liked and respected by the Patriot players. The fans certainly like him.

Jeremy Jacobs? The polar opposite of Bob Kraft in just about every imaginable way.

cbcwpg 11-28-2012 12:53 PM

JMO, but this is all about revenue sharing and the Bruins bottom line.

Sometime in the recent past Bettman told the owners that the revenue sharing pool was going to be enlarged. So Jacobs said fine, you want me to contribute more money to revenue sharing, then I'm talking that amount out of the players hides.

moosehead81 11-28-2012 01:18 PM

If the story's true, he wouldn't talk that way to either Mark Chipman or David Thompson. Thompson could buy everything Jacobs owns and still have about $15 billion left over.

MayDay 11-28-2012 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by moosehead81 (Post 56093521)
If the story's true, he wouldn't talk that way to either Mark Chipman or David Thompson. Thompson could buy everything Jacobs owns and still have about $15 billion left over.

A number of NHL owners have a greater net worth than Jacobs.

Thomson, Anschutz, Pegula, and Kroenke to name a few.

I doubt anyone that rich would allow themselves to be pushed around and disrespected by Jacobs in that way.

Tkachuk4MVP 11-28-2012 01:30 PM

Help me out here guys and girls. Regardless of how big of a ****** Jacobs is, how can one owner hold up this entire process?

Kloparren 11-28-2012 01:37 PM

If this is true then Bettman is to blame more for being unable to give power to a majority and letting a smaller number have greater influence.

WinterEmpire 11-28-2012 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Tkachuk4MVP (Post 56093835)
Help me out here guys and girls. Regardless of how big of a ****** Jacobs is, how can one owner hold up this entire process?

He's the chairman of the Board of Governors

ItsAllPartOfThePlan 11-28-2012 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Tkachuk4MVP (Post 56093835)
Help me out here guys and girls. Regardless of how big of a ****** Jacobs is, how can one owner hold up this entire process?

When that owner is the CEO of the Board of Govenors

Killion 11-28-2012 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by moosehead81 (Post 56093521)
If the story's true, he wouldn't talk that way to either Mark Chipman or David Thompson.

Yet according to anecdotal reports thats exactly what he did do moose, and Im not in the least bit surprised. The size of your bank account though important enough doesnt trump Length of Tenure, years of building a powerbase, influence. A guy like Jacobs' would tell any new kid on the block to zip it, this is how it works, Im in charge around here, be it Thompson or whomever else. He appears to be engaged a game of playing guys like Snider, Lieweke, Karmanos, Dolan, Tennebaum & Burke out of Toronto, Chicago & Detroit etc against the middle and bottom, ignoring altogether the Vancouvers', Montreal's & San Jose's of the world. Owners & Governor designates afraid to rock the boat for fear of being left off of special committee's, and then when appointed told to take a back seat, keep quiet, enjoy the scenery. Heres a colouring book. Your just here for window dressing. Very strange dynamic going on.

Kaoz 11-28-2012 01:48 PM

Jacobs often refused to spend the big money other clubs would on player contracts pre-2004 lockout because he thought them outlandish which contributed to the Bruins mediocrity in the 80's and 90's, and because of that many Bruins fans had issue with him (myself included). He wanted a hard cap, it was no secret. It got to the point where Bruins fans responded in kind and stopped dropping all their money on the Bruins and instead watching teams like the Sox, Celtics and Pats.

The funny part however is that during that time when he built up all that hatred he personified exactly the quality many who choose to blame the owners suggested they should have. He was frugal, and he was stubborn about it to the point where it likely cost the Bruins many competitive seasons.

How often have we seen someone comment during this lockout that if the owners didn't like how much money the players were making they never should have signed them to those high contracts in the first place. Here's Exhibit A.

mouser 11-28-2012 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by WinterEmpire (Post 56094001)
He's the chairman of the Board of Governors

It does beg the question if he's such a jerk then why do the owners vote Jacobs in as Chairman? The position is voted on by the owners every 2 years. If I understand it right he was first elected in 2007, then re-elected in 2009 and 2011.

Fugu 11-28-2012 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Tkachuk4MVP (Post 56093835)
Help me out here guys and girls. Regardless of how big of a ****** Jacobs is, how can one owner hold up this entire process?

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Originally Posted by WinterEmpire (Post 56094001)
He's the chairman of the Board of Governors

He sits on the Executive Committee and is the Chairman of the BOG and that committee. He's also on the committee that approves future owners and franchise sales. It may really be that too much power is concentrated in the hands of the same group of owners.

As I mentioned above, whenever there is any issue that will be put before the full BOG for a vote, the Exec Committee reviews it with Bettman in a morning session, then the full BOG meets in the afternoon and gets to vote Y/N for the question as presented.

Stern apparently also runs a very tight control over the agenda put in front of the BOG in the NBA. If it's not the agenda, it's not discussed.


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Originally Posted by QuietCompany (Post 56093995)
If this is true then Bettman is to blame more for being unable to give power to a majority and letting a smaller number have greater influence.

It's easier for him though. He only has to get the smaller group that controls things on his side, not cater to all 30 of his constituents.

Fugu 11-28-2012 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by mouser (Post 56094345)
It does beg the question if he's such a jerk then why do the owners vote Jacobs in as Chairman? The position is voted on by the owners every 2 years.


Do you know how that vote is handled, and if anyone can run or if that group is also vetted somehow?


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