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TheDaysOf 04 11-28-2012 07:33 PM

Forbes ranks Lightning 23rd on NHL franchise value list
 
http://www2.tbo.com/sports/lightning...medium=twitter
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The Tampa Bay Lightning are once again in the bottom third of the 30-team National Hockey League in Forbes Magazine's annual ranking of franchise values.

The Lightning are worth an estimated $174 million, which ranks 23rd on the magazine's list, which was released Wednesday.
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The report also includes the estimated top-15 players – including salaries and endorsements – with Tampa Bay centers Steven Stamkos and Vinny Lecavalier landing in the top 10.

The franchise value for Tampa Bay is unchanged from the same report a year ago. The magazine estimates the Lightning brought in $88 in revenue but ended with an operating loss of $13.1 million.

Team spokesman Bill Wickett "respectfully declined'' to comment on the Forbes report.
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In the estimated annual player worth, Stamkos – who led the league last year with 60 goals – ranked fifth overall with $8.3 million. That includes his average salary of $7.5 million – though he made $8 million last season – and $800,000 in endorsements with Nike, Bauer and Tissot watches. It did not include his deal with hair care product Garnier-Fructis.

Lecavalier was eighth on the list at $7.9 million, which takes into account his average salary of $7.7 million – though he earned $10 million in salary last season – and an estimated $150,000 in endorsement deals.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozan...rth-1-billion/

http://www.forbes.com/pictures/mlm45...bay-lightning/
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And don't worry they also ranked the best and worst fans too :rolleyes:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/christin...nd-worst-fans/

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The NHL's Worst Fans

Whether you call them casual fans or fail to find any to call them at all, we found the NHL’s worst fans. Our ranking is based on the following criteria: ticket prices, concession, parking, and memorabilia prices, home attendance, merchandise sales, TV ratings, and social media followers.
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No. 3: Tampa Bay Lightning

The Lightning were one of only 3 teams that had a decrease in its average ticket price last season, one year after an announced price decrease as part of a "Bring It Back" fan initiative.

IdealisticSniper 11-28-2012 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDaysOf 04 (Post 56101223)

Two things. It is my understanding that the Forbes estimates include the debt of any arena costs as well. Including renovations. Vinik just dumped nearly 50M into that. If thats true then they really made quite a bit of profit from actual hockey.

As for the fans, the things they rate them on are ridiculous. Prices of things? Like the fans have control over that. And since when are cheap things (read: not ridiculously price gouged things, Im looking at you Toronto), a bad thing? Attendance we were 96% full and in the middle of the pack last year, on a team that didnt make the playoffs. And TV ratings? That would completely depend on the TV market available. Its just very arbitrary uncontrollable things for them to rank the actual fans on.

InjuredChoker 11-29-2012 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by IdealisticSniper (Post 56102269)
Two things. It is my understanding that the Forbes estimates include the debt of any arena costs as well. Including renovations. Vinik just dumped nearly 50M into that. If thats true then they really made quite a bit of profit from actual hockey.

Yeah but other interests, taxes, depreciation and amortization are not counted.

Lighting did make 1 mil more in revenue this year, without any playoff games.

ThunderAlleyNomad 11-29-2012 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by IdealisticSniper (Post 56102269)
Two things. It is my understanding that the Forbes estimates include the debt of any arena costs as well. Including renovations. Vinik just dumped nearly 50M into that. If thats true then they really made quite a bit of profit from actual hockey.

As for the fans, the things they rate them on are ridiculous. Prices of things? Like the fans have control over that. And since when are cheap things (read: not ridiculously price gouged things, Im looking at you Toronto), a bad thing? Attendance we were 96% full and in the middle of the pack last year, on a team that didnt make the playoffs. And TV ratings? That would completely depend on the TV market available. Its just very arbitrary uncontrollable things for them to rank the actual fans on.

I read this yesterday. Other than providing grist for the BOH relocate mill, it really doesn't say anything pertinent to or about the Lightning fan base. As we are all aware down here, ST prices went up after last season, and sales were still good. Well, at least before lockout chatter really started penetrating. And TV ratings last season were up 60 % last season. Very little mention of how things are improving and total failure to take into account the dark years of OK Hockey. As for social media and merchandising, meh. We're a small market in a transplant state with people who come down here with their lifetime sports allegiances in tow.

stryfe604 11-29-2012 03:25 PM

This report is just propaganda to help Fill in the side you're not on (NHLPA/NHL) here. :sarcasm:

Felonious Python 11-29-2012 06:44 PM

We did it!

We came in 3rd on Forbes' worst NHL fans list!

http://www.forbes.com/pictures/mlh45...bay-lightning/

but 1 million more in revenues.

http://i.imgur.com/zaGde.gif


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