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Rheged 12-02-2012 10:18 PM

Winnipeg Jets Prospect Thread 2012-13 (Part II)
 
Winnipeg Jets Player Stats Update
Last Updated 2/28/2013


NHL Skaters
PlayerPos.GPGoalsAssistsPointsPIMTeam/LeagueDOBCountryDrafted
Paul PostmaD181562Winnipeg Jets2/22/1989CanadaRound 7, #205 Overall
Zach RedmondD813412Winnipeg Jets7/26/1988USARound 7, #184 Overall

CHL Skaters
PlayerPos.GPGoalsAssistsPointsPIMTeam/LeagueDOBCountryDrafted
Mark Scheifele $C3932346626Barrie Colts, OHL3/15/1993CanadaRound 1, #7 Overall
Adam LowryLW6440408091Swift Current Broncos, WHL3/29/1993CanadaRound 3, #67 Overall
Lukas SutterC64131023158Saskatoon Blades, WHL10/4/1993CanadaRound 2, #39 Overall
Austen BrassardC5313173086Belleville Bulls, OHL1/14/1993CanadaRound 5, #149 Overall
Scott KosmachukRW5931265795Guelph Storm, OHL1/24/1994CanadaRound 3, #70 Overall
Ryan OlsenC6031235483Kelowna Rockets, WHL3/25/1994CanadaRound 6, #160 Overall
Zach YuenD617313848Tri-City Americans, WHL3/3/1993CanadaRound 4, #119 Overall
Yasin CisseRW25851327Blainville Armada, QMJHL3/11/1992CanadaRound 5, #150 Overall

NCAA Skaters
PlayerPos.GPGoalsAssistsPointsPIMTeam/LeagueDOBCountryDrafted
Jordan Samuels-T.LW321171836Quinnipac, CCHA5/28/1990USARound 7, #203 Overall
Vinny SaponariRW306192524Northeastern, H-East2/15/1990USARound 4, #94 Overall
Tanner LaneC252468Nebraska-Omaha, WCHA8/13/1992USARound 6, #160 Overall
Jacob TroubaD299142370Michigan, CCHA2/26/1994USARound 1, #9 Overall
Brennan ServilleD2210114Michigan, CCHA6/2/1993CanadaRound 3, #78 Overall
Peter StoykewychD3217814Colorado, WCHA7/14/1992CanadaRound 7, #199 Overall
Aaron HarstadD211346Colorado, WCHA4/27/1992USARound 7, #187 Overall

NCAA Goalies
PlayerPos.GPWLSOGAASV%Team/LeagueDOBCountryDrafted
Jason KasdorfG1811321.630.938RPI, ECAC5/18/1992CanadaRound 6, #157 Overall
Connor HellebuyckG1311131.570.940UMass Lowell, H-East5/19/1993USARound 5, #130 Overall
Jamie PhillipsG60102.870.877Michigan Tech, WCHA3/24/1993CanadaRound 7, #190 Overall

International Skaters
PlayerPos.GPGoalsAssistsPointsPIMTeam/LeagueDOBCountryDrafted
Arturs KuldaD50961555Novosibirsk Siber, KHL7/25/1988LatviaRound 7, #200 Overall

ECHL Skaters
PlayerPos.GPGoalsAssistsPointsPIMTeam/LeagueDOBCountryDrafted
Daultan LeveilleC120222Wheeling Nailers8/10/1990CanadaRound 1, #29 Overall

ECHL Goalies
PlayerPos.GPWLSOGAASV%Team/LeagueDOBCountryDrafted

AHL Skaters
PlayerPos.GPGoalsAssistsPointsPIMTeam/LeagueDOBCountryDrafted
Ivan TeleginC3437108St. John's IceCaps2/28/1992RussiaRound 4, #101 Overall
Jason GregoireLW4695144St. John's IceCaps2/24/1989CanadaRound 3, #76 Overall
Carl KlingbergLW529122134St. John's IceCaps1/28/1991SwedenRound 2, #34 Overall
Patrice CormierC2852760St. John's IceCaps6/14/1990CanadaRound 2, #54 Overall
Ben MaxwellC545152026St. John's IceCaps3/30/1988CanadaRound 2, 49 Overall
Eric O'DellC3916122820St. John's IceCaps6/21/1990CanadaRound 2, #39 Overall
John AlbertC2332510St. John's IceCaps1/19/1989USARound 6, #175 Overall
Spencer MachacekRW5311132443St. John's IceCaps10/14/1988CanadaRound 3, #67 Overall
Maxime MacenauerRW529101944St. John's IceCaps1/4/1989CanadaRound 3, #63 Overall
Ben ChiarotD4617867St. John's IceCaps5/9/1991CanadaRound 4, #120 Overall
Julian MelchioriD3304429St. John's IceCaps12/6/1991CanadaRound 3, #87 Overall
Will O'NeillD401141517St. John's IceCaps4/28/1988USARound 7, #210 Overall
Cody SolD1302216St. John's IceCaps2/11/1991CanadaRound 5, #125 Overall

AHL Goalies
PlayerPos.GPWLSOGAASV%Team/LeagueDOBCountryDrafted
Edward PasqualeG36141942.630.912St. John's IceCaps11/20/1990CanadaRound 4, #117 Overall
Chris CarrozziG31102.800.879St. John's IceCaps3/2/1990CanadaRound 6, #154 Overall


Hammer Slammer 12-02-2012 10:31 PM

Highlights from the past week from the last thread.


Holden Caulfield 12-02-2012 10:56 PM

Nice work Rheged! Sorry to say I did not see that you were updating this in the previous thread in post 6 until a couple of days ago :facepalm:

Just a note, I am 99% sure we no longer retain rights to Nicklas Lasu and Andrey Zubarev. Lasu is an 08 pick that was never signed, his rights lapsed after two seasons. And Andrey Zubarev was 23 years old when he signed his ELC...which means that by the 05 CBA he signed a 2 year ELC, which expired last season. He was not on the list on the Jets that were qualified, IIRC.

Paradise 12-03-2012 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holden Caulfield (Post 56199671)
Nice work Rheged! Sorry to say I did not see that you were updating this in the previous thread in post 6 until a couple of days ago :facepalm:

Just a note, I am 99% sure we no longer retain rights to Nicklas Lasu and Andrey Zubarev. Lasu is an 08 pick that was never signed, his rights lapsed after two seasons. And Andrey Zubarev was 23 years old when he signed his ELC...which means that by the 05 CBA he signed a 2 year ELC, which expired last season. He was not on the list on the Jets that were qualified, IIRC.



I'm not sure if that's completely right Holden. The Jets are allowed to hold onto 80 players rights and 50 signed contracts (not including ELC players returned to junior). I'm not sure where the list is, but I can provide a similar situation where it relates to a player in Europe that is unsigned, but the club has retained his rights.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=26377

Quote:

Reserve Lists
The list of players "belonging" to an NHL team is comprised of the following, the total of which may not exceed 80:
Pro players (maximum of 50)
Signed junior players (who have played less than 11 professional games)
Unsigned draft choices
Defected players (unsigned draft choices who are playing in Europe)
From the 2005 NHL CBA it lists 90 players available...Not sure which is correct.

http://www.nhlfa.com/CBA/cba_agreement1.asp

Quote:

"Reserve List" means the list of all players to whom a
Club has rights including all unsigned draft selections, all
players signed to Player Contracts (whether or not currently
playing in the NHL), and all players who have signed Player
Contracts but who have subsequently been returned to Canadian
Major Junior Hockey clubs. A Member Club may have on its Reserve
List, at any one time, not more than 90 players, which shall
include the following:

(a) Not more than 50 players signed to Standard Player's
Contracts and not less than 24 players and 3 goalkeepers under
contract. Age 18 and age 19 players who were returned to
Canadian Major Junior Hockey clubs, and who have not played 11
games in the NHL in one season, shall be exempt from
inclusion in the 50 player limit.
Any club violating this provision shall
be liable to loss of draft choices as
determined by the Commissioner.

http://prospects.dobbersports.com/in...ins&Itemid=102

Quote:

Söderberg’s rights are currently held by the Boston Bruins, however he has previously made it public that he only intends to play in the NHL if he was signed to a one-way contract.
Bruins fans refer to him as the Yeti:laugh:

Holden Caulfield 12-03-2012 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paradise (Post 56201867)
[/B]
I'm not sure if that's completely right Holden. The Jets are allowed to hold onto 80 players rights and 50 signed contracts (not including ELC players returned to junior). I'm not sure where the list is, but I can provide a similar situation where it relates to a player in Europe that is unsigned, but the club has retained his rights.

http://prospects.dobbersports.com/in...ins&Itemid=102

Bruins fans refer to him as the Yeti:laugh:

I know about those lists. There is no where to find the official lists. It is easy enough to find the signed players, that is common knowledge. But the 30 (+ if they have less than 30 contracts) reserve list is not published. It SHOULD be readily available on team websites, in the In The System area, but that list is updated sporadically and full of obvious errors (for example, the Jets site still lists John Albert and Daultan Leveille, neither of which are protected property at this time).

Players under the 05 CBA teams only held on to European drafted players rights for 2 years. Unless signed all players drafted out of Europe had their rights lapse after two years. Fredrik Petterson-Wenztel was in the exact same situation last june.

Quote:

8.6 Reserve List-Exclusive Rights.
(a) Commencing with the 2005 Entry Draft, a Player selected by a Club in the
Entry Draft shall be registered on the Reserve List of the selecting Club as an "Unsigned
Draft Choice."
(i) Subject to the provisions of Sections (b), (c) and (d) below, such
registration shall establish for such selecting Club the exclusive
right of negotiation for the services of each Player selected and
registered as against all other Clubs up to and including June 1 of
the next calendar year following the date of his selection.
(ii) Subject to the provisions of subsection (iii) below and Sections (b)
and (c) below, if, on or before June 1 of the calendar year next
succeeding the Entry Draft, the claiming Club makes a Bona Fide
Offer (as defined below) to its claimed Player of an SPC, the Club
shall retain the exclusive right of negotiation for the services of
such Player up to and including the second June 1 following the
date of his selection.
None of the subsequent CBA considerations apply to Lasu since he has never played Major Junior or College.

There was briefly an issue with European players (other than Russians, I'll explain a little later) due to a lack of transfer agreement during 07-08 I believe (my dates might be wrong, I'll talk about it later). During that time all European players once again had their rights protected indefinitely. Since then all the European countries have once again signed a transfer agreement, except Russians. It's why the Jets were unable to retain FPW as a prospect.

Russia continues to not have a transfer agreement with the NHL. Although I have nothing solid, it stands to reason that for players drafted out of Russia teams hold their rights indefinitely. This appears to be the case with Kings Maxim Kitsyn, who they continue to hold the rights to due to the lack of transfer agreement with Russia, and Russia only. It is why most young Russians drafted are now drafted out of the CHL or sign and come over immediately, this lack of transfer agreement means that teams try to bring them over immediately to avoid them getting caught in longterm deals out there.

The lapsed transfer agreements from the 07-08 era is a bit of an issue. I am not 100% on those dates. However I am quite certain that although for a brief period European players draft 05+ did have their rights retained indefinitely, this has since been rescinded for non-Russians. I will try to find an example for around Lasu's timeline, but all Europeans (again other than Russians) now only have a two year window.


Now Soderberg
As for Soderberg was drafted under the 1995 CBA. Under the 1995 CBA, teams held onto players drafted out of Europe indefinitely. That may play some part of it with Soderberg. However, as far as I know, the 2 year window applied retroactively in the first two years of the CBA. The Kings relinquished the rights to all of their unsigned Europeans back in 2007 (I think, again I'll touch on it in a second), as did most other teams.

It could be that the pre-05 draft date has allowed Boston to retain his rights indefinitely. It's possible that I am not remembering correctly and pre-05 draft picks did not have the two year window applied on them retroactively. And that teams like LA simply were clearing there 80 man protected list from unwanted guys who were never going to cross the atlantic. That seems the most logical.

But in any case, I see no possible way for an 08 draft that has not been signed to have remained a member of the Jets organization. Not of the possible special exemptions that have allowed Boston to retain Soderberg would apply to him.

EDIT: Ok, so there is only one way. If Lasu was drafted during a time when the league did not have a transfer agreement (possible, even likely) and the league decided to make all European prospects protected/drafted during this time permanent property of the teams (ie not going back to the 2 year window after the transfer agreement was signed), then could still be Jets property. I do not see this as very likely, and why I put this as 99% sure, not 100%.

Hopefully this tl;dr post made sense. Let me know if any questions.

Paradise 12-03-2012 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holden Caulfield (Post 56202333)
I know about those lists. There is no where to find the official lists. It is easy enough to find the signed players, that is common knowledge. But the 30 (+ if they have less than 30 contracts) reserve list is not published. It SHOULD be readily available on team websites, in the In The System area, but that list is updated sporadically and full of obvious errors (for example, the Jets site still lists John Albert and Daultan Leveille, neither of which are protected property at this time).

Players under the 05 CBA teams only held on to European drafted players rights for 2 years. Unless signed all players drafted out of Europe had their rights lapse after two years. Fredrik Petterson-Wenztel was in the exact same situation last june.



None of the subsequent CBA considerations apply to Lasu since he has never played Major Junior or College.

There was briefly an issue with European players (other than Russians, I'll explain a little later) due to a lack of transfer agreement during 07-08 I believe (my dates might be wrong, I'll talk about it later). During that time all European players once again had their rights protected indefinitely. Since then all the European countries have once again signed a transfer agreement, except Russians. It's why the Jets were unable to retain FPW as a prospect.

Russia continues to not have a transfer agreement with the NHL. Although I have nothing solid, it stands to reason that for players drafted out of Russia teams hold their rights indefinitely. This appears to be the case with Kings Maxim Kitsyn, who they continue to hold the rights to due to the lack of transfer agreement with Russia, and Russia only. It is why most young Russians drafted are now drafted out of the CHL or sign and come over immediately, this lack of transfer agreement means that teams try to bring them over immediately to avoid them getting caught in longterm deals out there.

The lapsed transfer agreements from the 07-08 era is a bit of an issue. I am not 100% on those dates. However I am quite certain that although for a brief period European players draft 05+ did have their rights retained indefinitely, this has since been rescinded for non-Russians. I will try to find an example for around Lasu's timeline, but all Europeans (again other than Russians) now only have a two year window.

As for Soderberg was drafted under the 1995 CBA. Under the 1995 CBA, teams held onto players drafted out of Europe indefinitely. That may play some part of it with Soderberg. However, as far as I know, the 2 year window applied retroactively in the first two years of the CBA. The Kings relinquished the rights to all of their unsigned Europeans back in 2007 (I think, again I'll touch on it in a second), as did most other teams.

It could be that the pre-05 draft date has allowed Boston to retain his rights indefinitely. It's possible that I am not remembering correctly and pre-05 draft picks did not have the two year window applied on them retroactively. And that teams like LA simply were clearing there 80 man protected list from unwanted guys who were never going to cross the atlantic. That seems the most logical.

But in any case, I see no possible way for an 08 draft that has not been signed to have remained a member of the Jets organization. Not of the possible special exemptions that have allowed Boston to retain Soderberg would apply to him.

Thanks. Wasn't completely sure of some of the CBA rules as regarding pre and post 2005. It would be nice to get a hold of an actual reserve list of the 80 or 90 (both links I provided show different limits, not sure which to believe, I always thought it was 90?) players. I guess we could make a list?

Holden Caulfield 12-03-2012 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paradise (Post 56202501)
Thanks. Wasn't completely sure of some of the CBA rules as regarding pre and post 2005. It would be nice to get a hold of an actual reserve list of the 80 or 90 (both links I provided show different limits, not sure which to believe, I always thought it was 90?) players. I guess we could make a list?

Your wish is my command.

http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh....php?t=1055193

You know, I cannot remember if it's 80 or 90. I'll check.

Paradise 12-03-2012 01:20 AM

Between the 2005 CBA manuel and the NHL operations manuel, it makes for some confusion. Specifically the reserve limits I mentioned (80 and 90) and the definition of "Defected players" (unsigned draft choices who are playing in Europe).

Holden Caulfield 12-03-2012 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paradise (Post 56202609)
Between the 2005 CBA manuel and the NHL operations manuel, it makes for some confusion. Specifically the reserve limits I mentioned (80 and 90) and the definition of "Defected players" (unsigned draft choices who are playing in Europe).

EDIT: I may be wrong on this. It is really hard to read sometimes. Here is the defected player definition straight from the CBA

Quote:

(b) Group 4 Free Agents.
(i) Definition of "Defected Player." For purposes of this
Agreement, "Defected Player" means any Player not
unconditionally released:
(A) who, having had an SPC with a Club, the provisions of
which, including the option clauses in a 1995 SPC, have
not been completely fulfilled, contracts for a period
including any part of the unfulfilled portion of his SPC,
with a club in a league not affiliated with the NHL or with
any such league (both of which are hereinafter referred to
as an "unaffiliated club") or with any other professional32
hockey club to the exclusion of the said Club or its
assignee; or
(B) who, never having been under contract to any Club, but as
to who the NHL negotiation rights now or at any time
hereafter shall reside in any Club, has contracted or shall
contract with such an unaffiliated club.
(C) A Player who plays out his final season, or option season
pursuant to a 1995 SPC, as the case may be, and enters into
a contract for a period including the following season with
an unaffiliated club or with any other professional hockey
club shall not be deemed to be a "Defected Player";
provided, however, that nothing contained in this Section
shall be construed to affect the rights of said Club to
compensation, if applicable, pursuant to this Article 10 in
the event that said Player should subsequently enter into an
SPC for his services as a professional hockey player with
another Club of the NHL.
A) is easy enough to decifer. It means just like I mentioned before, the Radulov situation (bailing on an existing contract to sign elsewhere)
B)sounds like it means all draft picks, no?
C)sounds like RFA's to me?

Damn lawyer speak

Also, it's 90.
Quote:

"Reserve List" means the list of all Players to whom a Club has rights
including all Unsigned Draft Choices, all Players signed to an SPC (whether or not8
currently playing in the NHL), and all Players who have signed an SPC but who have
subsequently been returned to Juniors. A Club may have on its Reserve List, at any one
time, not more than 90 Players, which shall include the following:
(a) Not more than 50 Players signed to an SPC and not less than 24 Players
and 3 goalkeepers under an SPC. Age 18 and age 19 Players who were returned to
Juniors, and who have not played 11 NHL Games in one season, shall be exempt from
inclusion in the 50 Player limit.
Any Club violating this provision shall be liable to loss of draft choices as
determined by the Commissioner.

Paradise 12-03-2012 01:33 AM

In the end I don't really care if we retain(ed) Lasu's rights, he's preforming terrible in the SEL :laugh:. The lack of an agreement with the KHL is another story. We still retain Kulda's rights, but is Zubarev also retained due to the lack of an agreement between the KHL and NHL?

Holden Caulfield 12-03-2012 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paradise (Post 56202793)
In the end I don't really care if we retain(ed) Lasu's rights, he's preforming terrible in the SEL :laugh:. The lack of an agreement with the KHL is another story. We still retain Kulda's rights, but is Zubarev also retained due to the lack of an agreement between the KHL and NHL?

I agree, no matter Lasu is not in the plans. Just an interesting point.

I do not believe we retain Zubarev's rights since we did not qualify him. He was a signed player with us, meaning that at the expiration of the agreement, regardless of his other contracts, we would have had to extend a QO to him to retain his rights. I do not believe we did.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=399200
Quote:

Cheveldayoff also extended qualifying offers to restricted free agents Evander Kane, Ondrej Pavelec, Spencer Machacek, Arturs Kulda, Paul Postma, Ben Maxwell, Brett Festerling and Kenndal McArdle.
It later turned out we did not qualify McArdle.

So we have retained the rights of Brett Festerling (signed in Germany right now) and Arturs Kulda (signed in Sibir) as RFA's, despite them playing elsewhere. We will hold onto those rights until the qualify for UFA (I believe that 2013 for Festerling and 2015 for Kulda).

Paradise 12-03-2012 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holden Caulfield (Post 56202671)
EDIT: I may be wrong on this. It is really hard to read sometimes. Here is the defected player definition straight from the CBA



A) is easy enough to decifer. It means just like I mentioned before, the Radulov situation (bailing on an existing contract to sign elsewhere)
B)sounds like it means all draft picks, no?
C)sounds like RFA's to me?

Damn lawyer speak

Also, it's 90.

The language leaves a lot to interpretation. B) and C) are the most difficult to decipher, but I think you are right. B) seems to read that the NHL club that drafted them is the only NHL club that can sign them? C) sounds like compensation is needed in someway (if RFA rights apply), if another club wishes to sign them. Again I'm not sure if I'm reading them correctly, but I tried:laugh:

truck 12-03-2012 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammer Slammer (Post 56199027)
Highlights from the past week from the last thread.


Wow! Sutter's assist at 1:14ish... He was not involved in that play at all. If he is getting gimmie assists like that and still putting up nothing point wise. :s

Hammer Slammer 12-03-2012 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truck (Post 56206533)
Wow! Sutter's assist at 1:14ish... He was not involved in that play at all. If he is getting gimmie assists like that and still putting up nothing point wise. :s

Haha, I was laughing because the commentator was adamant it was Sutter with the first assist. I think he might've dumped it in and they gave him the 2nd assist for that.

Also, I think Brassard might've gotten a few games for his fight in that video. He hasn't played the last 2.

truck 12-03-2012 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammer Slammer (Post 56206905)
Haha, I was laughing because the commentator was adamant it was Sutter with the first assist. I think he might've dumped it in and they gave him the 2nd assist for that.

Also, I think Brassard might've gotten a few games for his fight in that video. He hasn't played the last 2.

Yeah, my only guess is that Sutter dumped it in, but even then he shouldn't get an assist.

I assumed that Brassard got suspended, but I hadn't heard anything official.

Rheged 12-03-2012 12:16 PM

Regarding who is/isn't Jets property, since it always seems to be a somewhat contentious issue and there's no defining way of finding out, my plan was just to go with the list on the Jets site here.

Looking more closely at that though I see that Zubarev and Lasu were both removed so I've taken them out of the tables. I've also re-added Daultan Leveille since even though I'm sure everyone's in agreement that he isn't/won't be Jets property, he is currently still listed on the aforementioned site. :)

garret9 12-03-2012 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammer Slammer (Post 56206905)
Haha, I was laughing because the commentator was adamant it was Sutter with the first assist. I think he might've dumped it in and they gave him the 2nd assist for that.

Also, I think Brassard might've gotten a few games for his fight in that video. He hasn't played the last 2.

He got 4 because of this:

3 - BELV A. Brassard, 19:36 - Cross Checking, 2 min (PP)
3 - BELV A. Brassard, 19:36 - Instigator, 2 min (PP)
3 - BELV A. Brassard, 19:36 - Fighting, 5 min
3 - BELV A. Brassard, 19:36 - Misc-Instigating, (46.10) 0 min
3 - BELV A. Brassard, 19:36 - Game Misc-Inst. (last 5:00), (46.11) 0 min
3 - BELV A. Brassard, 19:36 - Game Misc-Fight off Surface, (46.7) 0 min

Mossy Oak 12-03-2012 12:25 PM

Brassard did indeed get suspended 4 games.

Mathil8 12-03-2012 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by garret9 (Post 56208221)
3 - BELV A. Brassard, 19:36 - Game Misc-Fight off Surface, (46.7) 0 min

Best penalty ever :laugh:

truck 12-03-2012 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mathil8 (Post 56212711)
Quote:

3 - BELV A. Brassard, 19:36 - Game Misc-Fight off Surface, (46.7) 0 min
Best penalty ever :laugh:

...but Brassard was on the ice. Not his fault his opponent wasn't.

Mathil8 12-03-2012 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truck (Post 56212901)
...but Brassard was on the ice. Not his fault his opponent wasn't.

Actually it was... considering the fact Brassard was the one who upended him off the ice surface :sarcasm:

truck 12-03-2012 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mathil8 (Post 56213541)
Actually it was... considering the fact Brassard was the one who upended him off the ice surface :sarcasm:

hahah true.

Paradise 12-03-2012 08:40 PM

http://www.hockeysfuture.com/article...usy-off-season

Quote:

29. Winnipeg Jets
Strengths: The Jets have been methodically rebuilding their organization after years of having either lottery draft picks that ascended quickly to the NHL ranks or other picks that never panned out. Center Mark Scheifele, the first pick taken by the team after moving to Winnipeg, gives the system a surefire NHL forward, and Jacob Trouba adds top-end talent to the blue line. The Jets have some gritty, two-way types in Carl Klingberg and Spencer Machacek, as well as a bit of tough-nosed scoring in Ivan Telegin.

Weaknesses: The system lacks goaltending talent and depth. Ed Pasquale shows potential to become a solid NHL backup who could help carry the load. Behind him, however, are several projects who show the spark of talent, but all have holes in their games which will need filling before they will have a legitimate shot at an NHL job. The system as a whole lacks depth, and beyond Scheifele and Trouba, there are no real standouts in the group.

Top 5 Prospects: 1. Mark Scheifele, C; 2. Jacob Trouba, D; 3. Ivan Telegin, LW; 4. Paul Postma, D; 5. Carl Klingberg, LW.

Hammer Slammer 12-04-2012 08:45 PM

OHL



Guelph Storm 3 - Kitchener Rangers 2
Last Updated: Final SO

Kosmachuk: 0-2-2 +1 0PIM
2. GUE Z. Mitchell, (11) (A. Pedan, S. Kosmachuk), 1:26
3. GUE T. Richard, (3) (Z. Mitchell, S. Kosmachuk), 19:03





WHL



Swift Current Broncos 1 - Kamloops Blazers 2
Last Updated: Final

Lowry: 0-1-1 -2 0PIM
2. S.C C. Gordon, (7) (A. Lowry, R. Scarlett), 2:46 (PP)

truck 12-04-2012 10:14 PM

Two As for Kossy!


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