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Systemfel 12-04-2012 06:16 AM

Roster Talk '13 — Germany
 
Germany Sked
DateYEKTCETESTMatchup
Dec. 2615:3010:304:30 AMGermany vs. Canada
Dec. 2720:0015:009:00 AMUnited States vs. Germany
Dec. 2920:0015:009:00 AMGermany vs. Russia
Dec. 3020:0015:009:00 AMSlovakia vs. Germany

Possible returnees from 2012
F Nickolas Latta
F Andreas Pauli
F Leo Pföderl
F Tobias Rieder
F Sebastian Uvira
D Henry Haase
D Kilian Keller
D Stephan Krothaler

#57 12-04-2012 09:18 AM

Marvin Cupper has been very good this season for Shawinigan... I guess he will be your starter?

Maverick41 12-04-2012 09:39 AM

I think these are the players that have played for this team so far this year:

Marvin Cüpper (G)
Philip Lehr (G)
Elmar Trautmann (G)

Steven Bär (D/F)
Maximilian Faber (D)
Dominik Fuchs (D)
Henry Haase (D)
Lukas Jentsch (D)
Kilian Keller (D)
Manuel Kindl (D)
Stephan Kronthaler (D)
Oliver Mebus (D)
Max Meirandres (D)
Eric Stephan (D/F)
Alexander Winkler (D)

Alexander Ackermann (F)
Feodor Boiarchinov (F)
Dominik Daxlberger (F)
Hans Detsch (F)
Daniel Fischbuch (RW)
Lars Grözinger (LW)
Raphael Kaefer (F)
Dominik Kahun (LW)
Florin Ketterer (F)
John Koslowski (F)
Christian Kretschmann (C)
Marcel Kurth (F)
Nickolas Latta (C/RW)
Andreas Pauli (C)
Leo Pföderl (LW)
Dennis Reimer (F)
Ralf Rinke (F)
Huba Sekesi (F)
Frederik Tiffels (LW)
Sebastian Uvira (RW)
Thomas Zuravlev (F)

It is very likely that the roster will be made up by these players plus maybe Orendorz and Draisaitl, though I would not be that surprised if they don't select Draisaitl, because he is "too young".

I like the overall depth at forward and defense so they should be able to select a decent roster, but as I said in the thread on the Germany board, I don't like our goalies too much. I expect Lehr und Cüpper to be the ones playing. Lehr is doing ok in Berlin after he was cut from his USHL team, so maybe he can step up.
Cüpper really worries me. Not that he is horrible, but his confidence level could be an issue. At least he is used to playing behind the inferior team every night.

#57 12-04-2012 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Maverick41 (Post 56232395)
Cüpper really worries me. Not that he is horrible, but his confidence level could be an issue. At least he is used to playing behind the inferior team every night.

I'm not sure why you'd be worried, he's had an excellent attitude so far this season and has been the Cataractes' best player. He is rock solid back there despite backstopping an awful team with a very young defense.

As you said, he is used to seeing many shots a night so he should be good to go for the germans in this tourney.

Maverick41 12-04-2012 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by #57 (Post 56232853)
I'm not sure why you'd be worried, he's had an excellent attitude so far this season and has been the Cataractes' best player. He is rock solid back there despite backstopping an awful team with a very young defense.

As you said, he is used to seeing many shots a night so he should be good to go for the germans in this tourney.

It's just the last time I have seen him play, before he went to Shawinigan, he was very inconsistent, and seemed to struggle once he conceded a goal. I have seen some games of him where he was great up to point when he let in the first goal, and then the floodgates opened.
I am glad to hear, that he is doing well, despite the not so good numbers, and I would be thrilled if he got his game back, because two years ago I was pretty high on him myself.

Still I would feel better if Niederberger was eligible to play, but your posts give me a little more hope regarding our goaltending in the tournament. Thanks for that. :D

Daneurism 12-04-2012 12:05 PM

I don't think a nation like Germany can afford to leave off a talent like Draisatl on the basis of "too young". There's so few impact talents on this roster, they need Leon every year until he's ineligible.

smitty10 12-04-2012 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daneurism (Post 56235221)
I don't think a nation like Germany can afford to leave off a talent like Draisatl on the basis of "too young". There's so few impact talents on this roster, they need Leon every year until he's ineligible.

Very true. Germany is going to have a tough time staying in the top group this year. Latvia has a lot of high end talent like Girgensons, Blugers, Lipsbergs, Jevpalovs and Bukarts. Germany's depth and goaltending will have to be very good if they want to stay alive.

ktf 12-04-2012 02:17 PM

I am really happy with the new format of only one team being relegated. This year especially it is nice, because Germany and Latvia are clearly above the rest. I think a lot of people are talking about Latvia, but this German team could do some damage as well. They have some talent you do not normally see. I really hope they stay up, because I think next years team would be seriously dangerous.
The way I see their roster panning out.

G- Marvin Cüpper (94)
G- Philip Lehr (93)

Haase(93)- Keller(93)
Kronthaler(93)- Faber(93)
Mebus(93)- Mierandres(93)
Bar(93)...Kindl(93) next in line

These are not actual lines... just an idea of the order

Reider(93)- Draisaitl(95)- Pföderl(93)
Pauli (93)- Uvira(93)- Kahun(95)
Latta(93)- Kretschmann(93)- Kurth(94)
Fischbuch(93)-Grözinger(93)-Sekesi(93)

At this point I would then consider... Zuravlev(93), Tiffels(95) as wildcards. I am sure one or two of the other 93 born players would fill the extra role and possibly replace Draisaitl or Kahun if they are deemed too young. Personally I think that would be a tragedy givne how they are playing!

ficohok* 12-04-2012 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daneurism (Post 56235221)
I don't think a nation like Germany can afford to leave off a talent like Draisatl on the basis of "too young". There's so few impact talents on this roster, they need Leon every year until he's ineligible.

I agree. If someone is not "too young" to get points in WHL, then he certainly isn't too young to play against same age groups of players from Swiss, Latvia, Czechs and others...

Giguere27 12-05-2012 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ktf (Post 56238423)
I am really happy with the new format of only one team being relegated. This year especially it is nice, because Germany and Latvia are clearly above the rest. I think a lot of people are talking about Latvia, but this German team could do some damage as well. They have some talent you do not normally see. I really hope they stay up, because I think next years team would be seriously dangerous.
The way I see their roster panning out.

G- Marvin Cüpper (94)
G- Philip Lehr (93)

Haase(93)- Keller(93)
Kronthaler(93)- Faber(93)
Mebus(93)- Mierandres(93)
Bar(93)...Kindl(93) next in line

These are not actual lines... just an idea of the order

Reider(93)- Draisaitl(95)- Pföderl(93)
Pauli (93)- Uvira(93)- Kahun(95)
Latta(93)- Kretschmann(93)- Kurth(94)
Fischbuch(93)-Grözinger(93)-Sekesi(93)

At this point I would then consider... Zuravlev(93), Tiffels(95) as wildcards. I am sure one or two of the other 93 born players would fill the extra role and possibly replace Draisaitl or Kahun if they are deemed too young. Personally I think that would be a tragedy givne how they are playing!

Good roster,the guys should be able to compete with most of the other teams.As for the forwards,I could see Detsch and Rinke making the team.Detsch is playing really good for Kaufbeuern in the 2nd leauge and played mainly in the top-6.Rinke had a good start in Bremerhaven and should bring some physical elements to the team.

ktf 12-05-2012 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Giguere27 (Post 56256527)
Good roster,the guys should be able to compete with most of the other teams.As for the forwards,I could see Detsch and Rinke making the team.Detsch is playing really good for Kaufbeuern in the 2nd leauge and played mainly in the top-6.Rinke had a good start in Bremerhaven and should bring some physical elements to the team.

That is good to know. I have little information on either player. By the sounds of it, Rinke would make the perfect 12th/13th forward to add to my roster projection.

Crimson Skorpion 12-05-2012 11:04 AM

Any guesses on who Latta will be paired with on the PK?

Maverick41 12-05-2012 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonSkorpion (Post 56260879)
Any guesses on who Latta will be paired with on the PK?

Not really, but Rieder was very dangerous last year on the PK for the Kitchener Rangers, so he could be a candidate for one of the PK units. But I don't know how serious his injury is, and if he will even be at 100% for the tournament.

Does anyone have any knowledge about that? It would really suck if wasn't available or not at full strength.

StormSurge9 12-05-2012 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick41 (Post 56263733)
Not really, but Rieder was very dangerous last year on the PK for the Kitchener Rangers, so he could be a candidate for one of the PK units. But I don't know how serious his injury is, and if he will even be at 100% for the tournament.

Does anyone have any knowledge about that? It would really suck if wasn't available or not at full strength.

Coach Steve Spott said a Bone Scan revealed a fracture. Out indefinitely.

CharlieGirl 12-05-2012 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maverick41 (Post 56263733)
Not really, but Rieder was very dangerous last year on the PK for the Kitchener Rangers, so he could be a candidate for one of the PK units. But I don't know how serious his injury is, and if he will even be at 100% for the tournament.

Does anyone have any knowledge about that? It would really suck if wasn't available or not at full strength.

From Twitter: Kitchener Rangers ‏@OHLRangers

Quote:

Injury update from Coach Spott: bone scan on F Tobias Rieder's foot revealed a fracture. Timeline for return is indefinite.

Leaf Rocket 12-05-2012 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CharlieGirl (Post 56264249)
From Twitter: Kitchener Rangers ‏@OHLRangers

ouch. that's just brutal. hope he recovers.

Snippit 12-05-2012 05:38 PM

Hearing Rieder is out for the WJC. That's tough. They're the second bottom team (Lativa) to lose their best player.

I always like watching upsets, but that's hard to do if your only elite player is injured.

john g 12-05-2012 05:59 PM

Tiffels confirmed:

http://ushl.com/news.php?action=detail&news_id=1402

ficohok* 12-05-2012 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snippit (Post 56274237)
Hearing Rieder is out for the WJC. That's tough. They're the second bottom team (Lativa) to lose their best player.

I always like watching upsets, but that's hard to do if your only elite player is injured.

In upset(s) goalie(s) plays main role. :)

bruinsfan46 12-05-2012 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snippit (Post 56274237)
Hearing Rieder is out for the WJC. That's tough. They're the second bottom team (Lativa) to lose their best player.

I always like watching upsets, but that's hard to do if your only elite player is injured.

Has Girgensons been decided one way or another?

Sucks about Rieder.

BalticWarrior 12-05-2012 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bruinsfan46 (Post 56278367)
Has Girgensons been decided one way or another?

Sucks about Rieder.

There is no official info,just one tweet.

Chapin Landvogt 12-06-2012 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daneurism (Post 56235221)
I don't think a nation like Germany can afford to leave off a talent like Draisatl on the basis of "too young". There's so few impact talents on this roster, they need Leon every year until he's ineligible.

It's fair to say that Draisaitl's chances of making the team are currently pretty doggone good. It's not just his WHL production that has earned him attention and notiriety - he was also a topscorer in the DNL and then one of the U-18 tourney's top producers last spring.

I'd even go so far as to say that a kid like Parker Tuomie (Mannheim Junior Adler), who first turned 17 on the last day of October, has an outside shot as well.

In general though, coach Hoefner has a lot of kids to pick from who are currently playing in the DEL, 2nd German Bundesliga or Canadian juniors.

What the team can make of that is yet to be known, but just about the entire team is used to playing against faster, stronger players and there is going to be some good size on this squad.

Losing Rieder would NOT be a good start though. Arguably the best offensive player available for this year's entry.

Chapin Landvogt 12-06-2012 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maverick41 (Post 56232395)
Marvin Cüpper (G)
Philip Lehr (G)
Elmar Trautmann (G)

Steven Bär (D/F)
Maximilian Faber (D)
Dominik Fuchs (D)
Henry Haase (D)
Lukas Jentsch (D)
Kilian Keller (D)
Manuel Kindl (D)
Stephan Kronthaler (D)
Oliver Mebus (D)
Max Meirandres (D)
Eric Stephan (D/F)
Alexander Winkler (D)

Alexander Ackermann (F)
Feodor Boiarchinov (F)
Dominik Daxlberger (F)
Hans Detsch (F)
Daniel Fischbuch (RW)
Lars Grözinger (LW)

Raphael Kaefer (F)
Dominik Kahun (LW)
Florin Ketterer (F)
John Koslowski (F)
Christian Kretschmann (C)
Marcel Kurth (F)
Nickolas Latta (C/RW)
Andreas Pauli (C)
Leo Pföderl (LW)

Dennis Reimer (F)
Ralf Rinke (F)
Huba Sekesi (F)
Frederik Tiffels (LW)
Sebastian Uvira (RW)

Thomas Zuravlev (F)

In addition to the very likely Draisaitl, Rieder and Orendorz, who I think will all be there if healthy, I've bolded the names of players who - also if healthy - should at least be in Ufa with the team.

Some others who may have a decent shot are forwards Sven Ziegler (EBB), Denis Shevyrin (KEV), Eric Gollenbeck (MJA), and defenseman Dominik Tiffels (MJA).

Kaufbeuren's Markus Eisenschmid was thought of as a strong possibility heading into the season, but his start was modest (not bad) and now he's injured, I believe.

I'm also going to go out on a limb and say that Dman Tim Bender (MJA) is at least brought along for the ride as one of the 8 or 9 Dmen.

Unfortunately for Germany, Yasin Ehliz just barely misses the cut agewise. He's been very good taking a fairly regular shift in the DEL this season, well on his way to a 25 point season.

IHaveNoCreativity 12-06-2012 08:44 PM

Looks like a solid team, shouldn't be too overmatched.

smitty10 12-06-2012 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by IHaveNoCreativity (Post 56323075)
Looks like a solid team, shouldn't be too overmatched.

This isn't as good as 2011 when they had Kuhnhackl, Rieder, Abeltshauser, Treutle, Grubauer, Hofflin and Noebels on the squad. That team was relegated, but because of the rule changes I think they have a shot to stay up. Especially if Latvia is without Girgensons.


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