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pdd 12-06-2012 11:29 AM

Central Division All-Stars, F #1
 
Pick the #1 forward for the Central Division All-Star team!

After all team are picked, we'll have ourselves a short round-robin tournament and then playoffs with the top two from each conference!

The Red Line 12-06-2012 11:42 AM

Datsyuk.

New Sabres Captain 12-06-2012 11:47 AM

Datsyuk, add Kane. 2 from each team to start seems reasonable...but Kane is better than both Blue Jackets.

CoachBadkitten 12-06-2012 12:06 PM

Cool idea for sure. Datsyuk.

InjuredChoker 12-06-2012 12:11 PM

Dats.

Izzy 12-06-2012 12:39 PM

Datsyuk should take thsi

HockeyBuddha 12-06-2012 12:41 PM

Datsyuk! AINEC.

Benny FTW 12-06-2012 12:41 PM

Datsyuk

MastuhNinks 12-06-2012 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HockeyBuddha (Post 56300675)
Datsyuk! AINEC.

Except it's really close between him and Toews...

The Red Line 12-06-2012 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MastuhNinks (Post 56301653)
Except it's really close between him and Toews...

No, no its not.

Chris Hansen 12-06-2012 02:03 PM

These days? Yes, Toews and Datsyuk are fairly close. Datsyuk has been hovering just under a PPG ever since Detroit's last run to the Finals. I'd say Datsyuk has a very slight edge over Toews in defensive play.

Ridiculously good player and gets the nod by a bit over Toews.

tony d 12-06-2012 02:58 PM

Datsyuk

Hawkey Town 18 12-06-2012 03:09 PM

Is this going to be a full team of 4 lines and 3 D pairs? If so, you should think about setting up the polls so we can vote multiple times and do 3 F and 2 D at a time. It will make things go a lot quicker.

TrillMike 12-06-2012 03:28 PM

Datsyuk, but hasn't he skipped the last couple he was selected to?

Schalkenullvier* 12-06-2012 03:29 PM

Would have voted Kane...

Dolph Ziggler 12-06-2012 04:06 PM

People are lying to themselves if they pick someone other than Datsyuk.

silkyjohnson50 12-06-2012 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Trillmike (Post 56307001)
Datsyuk, but hasn't he skipped the last couple he was selected to?

Lol he learned his lesson after getting suspended a couple seasons back.

Remember, he was the #1 pick for Chara last season.

MastuhNinks 12-06-2012 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Red Line (Post 56303345)
No, no its not.

Their points per game this past season was nearly identical (Toews 0.97 Datsyuk 0.96), and they're both elite defensively and on faceoffs. It's very close, I don't really see how you can disagree unless you're a homer.

newfy 12-06-2012 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MastuhNinks (Post 56310529)
Their points per game this past season was nearly identical (Toews 0.97 Datsyuk 0.96), and they're both elite defensively and on faceoffs. It's very close, I don't really see how you can disagree unless you're a homer.

Problem with Toews is he has never put up a point per game season while Datsyuk has had some killer 97 point seasons and 87 point seasons and is still putting up a point per game. Hes also acked up a bunch of selkes.

Toews is closing the gap but theres a clear edge for Datsyuk still at this point

MastuhNinks 12-06-2012 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newfy (Post 56310911)
Problem with Toews is he has never put up a point per game season while Datsyuk has had some killer 97 point seasons and 87 point seasons and is still putting up a point per game. Hes also acked up a bunch of selkes.

Toews is closing the gap but theres a clear edge for Datsyuk still at this point

I'll take a Conn Smythe over a couple Selke trophies personally, so that's a moot point. Datsyuk hasn't had a season well over a point per game in a couple years, it seems kinda odd to use that when determining a present All-Star. Datsyuk is still one of the best players in the league but he's clearly not scoring like he was from 2005-2006 to 2008-2009, whereas Toews is only 23 and consistently improving his game, he very well could outscore Datsyuk next season. Looking at the past 3 seasons (which, keep in mind, dates back to when Toews was only 21), Datsyuk has 0.95 points per game and Toews has 0.93 points per game. I'm not saying you shouldn't pick Datsyuk, but it's definitely close either way. I don't see how you can disagree with that, both players are producing at pretty similar rates, with Toews being one of the very few forwards in the NHL who can rival Datsyuk defensively.

bp spec 12-06-2012 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MastuhNinks (Post 56311715)
I'll take a Conn Smythe over a couple Selke trophies personally, so that's a moot point. Datsyuk hasn't had a season well over a point per game in a couple years, it seems kinda odd to use that when determining a present All-Star. Datsyuk is still one of the best players in the league but he's clearly not scoring like he was from 2005-2006 to 2008-2009, whereas Toews is only 23 and consistently improving his game, he very well could outscore Datsyuk next season. Looking at the past 3 seasons (which, keep in mind, dates back to when Toews was only 21), Datsyuk has 0.95 points per game and Toews has 0.93 points per game. I'm not saying you shouldn't pick Datsyuk, but it's definitely close either way. I don't see how you can disagree with that, both players are producing at pretty similar rates, with Toews being one of the very few forwards in the NHL who can rival Datsyuk defensively.

Toews wasn't worth the Conn Smythe.

It's close, but Datsyuk is still the better player.

pdd 12-06-2012 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MastuhNinks (Post 56311715)
I'll take a Conn Smythe over a couple Selke trophies personally, so that's a moot point. Datsyuk hasn't had a season well over a point per game in a couple years, it seems kinda odd to use that when determining a present All-Star. Datsyuk is still one of the best players in the league but he's clearly not scoring like he was from 2005-2006 to 2008-2009, whereas Toews is only 23 and consistently improving his game, he very well could outscore Datsyuk next season. Looking at the past 3 seasons (which, keep in mind, dates back to when Toews was only 21), Datsyuk has 0.95 points per game and Toews has 0.93 points per game. I'm not saying you shouldn't pick Datsyuk, but it's definitely close either way. I don't see how you can disagree with that, both players are producing at pretty similar rates, with Toews being one of the very few forwards in the NHL who can rival Datsyuk defensively.

So you voted for Zetterberg, then? Same 0.93 PPG as Toews in the past three years (Toews does edge him out slightly once you get to the next decimal) and he's the best defensive forward of the three.

zytz 12-06-2012 11:46 PM

Kane and Sharp need to be included.

pdd 12-07-2012 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zytz (Post 56329701)
Kane and Sharp need to be included.

I wanted to keep the list to two forwards per team to start, or they'd both be up there.

Sky04 12-07-2012 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newfy (Post 56310911)
Problem with Toews is he has never put up a point per game season while Datsyuk has had some killer 97 point seasons and 87 point seasons and is still putting up a point per game. Hes also acked up a bunch of selkes.

Toews is closing the gap but theres a clear edge for Datsyuk still at this point

that was 4 years ago, that's like saying Ovechkin is still the best player in the world.

Datsyuk needs to step up his game to that elite level once again. My answer is Datsyuk but it's cutting fairly close as the years go on.


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