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Numbers 12-06-2012 09:05 PM

Kadri
 
Just curious what teams value Kadri at?

Not including Canucks or Leafs fans.

FanHabtic 12-06-2012 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Numbers (Post 56324099)
Just curious what teams value Kadri at?

Not including Canucks or Leafs fans.

Late first round pick. For a team devoid of high-upside (but underachieving) prospect talent he could be interesting.

TurdFerguson 12-06-2012 09:51 PM

I can only see him involved in a trade for another underachieving prospect. Kyle Beach comes to mind.

TheHudlinator 12-06-2012 09:52 PM

I have offered Kipper straight up or a slight addition from TO.

Liferleafer 12-06-2012 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Numbers (Post 56324099)
Just curious what teams value Kadri at?

Not including Canucks or Leafs fans.

Lol i totally understand why...but it seems ironic that in a thread created by a Canucks fan about a Leafs player it's odd that the fans of those two aren't allowed.

TheFactor 12-06-2012 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGleninator (Post 56326167)
I have offered Kipper straight up or a slight addition from TO.

Are you serious?

Jax Teller 12-06-2012 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by FanHabtic (Post 56326017)
Late first round pick. For a team devoid of high-upside (but underachieving) prospect talent he could be interesting.

A late first doesn't accomplish much, the Leafs have 3 prospects picked from 20-30 in the draft(Biggs-22, Percy-25, Ashton-29). You think it is smart to move a former 7th overall pick and near PPG player in the AHL for a prospect of that calibre? Never.

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Originally Posted by TurdFerguson (Post 56326105)
I can only see him involved in a trade for another underachieving prospect. Kyle Beach comes to mind.

Maybe for Colborne. Kadri is of much higher value.

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Originally Posted by TheGleninator (Post 56326167)
I have offered Kipper straight up or a slight addition from TO.

Interesting. The rumoured offer for Luongo is Bozak and Kadri. I wonder if Kipper was made available, if a straight up package of Kadri for Kipper would be preferable to Burke.

EDIT - Disregard this... I didn't read the first post well enough.

kthsn 12-06-2012 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by vinnybaby (Post 56326579)
The rumoured offer for Luongo is Bozak and Kadri.

SamJam (that highschool kid) made it up...it's not a legit rumour.

Jax Teller 12-06-2012 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by kthsn (Post 56326779)
SamJam (that highschool kid) made it up...it's not a legit rumour.

Huh..

I thought Millard and McGuire discussed it on tv or radio.

kthsn 12-06-2012 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by vinnybaby (Post 56326997)
Huh..

I thought Millard and McGuire discussed it on tv or radio.

That's the part he made up.

Numbers 12-06-2012 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Liferleafer (Post 56326453)
Lol i totally understand why...but it seems ironic that in a thread created by a Canucks fan about a Leafs player it's odd that the fans of those two aren't allowed.

Want outside opinions, because we know he is being offered for Luongo left, right, and center. No bias.

Jax Teller 12-06-2012 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by kthsn (Post 56327021)
That's the part he made up.

Ah, thanks for the clarification.

Liferleafer 12-06-2012 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Numbers (Post 56327155)
Want outside opinions, because we know he is being offered for Luongo left, right, and center. No bias.

Well i'll tell you this, i'd do that Kipper deal in a heartbeat.

Oilin Toronto 12-06-2012 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by vinnybaby (Post 56326579)
A late first doesn't accomplish much, the Leafs have 3 prospects picked from 20-30 in the draft(Biggs-22, Percy-25, Ashton-29). You think it is smart to move a former 7th overall pick and near PPG player in the AHL for a prospect of that calibre? Never.



Maybe for Colborne. Kadri is of much higher value.



Interesting. The rumoured offer for Luongo is Bozak and Kadri. I wonder if Kipper was made available, if a straight up package of Kadri for Kipper would be preferable to Burke.

EDIT - Disregard this... I didn't read the first post well enough.

Toronto is offering up too much for an overpriced, over the hill, and an underachieving goalie like Luongo.

Numbers 12-06-2012 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Oilin Toronto (Post 56327381)
Toronto is offering up too much for an overpriced, over the hill, and an underachieving goalie like Luongo.

Please this is not Luongo thread. Keep comments like this where they belong.

Numbers 12-06-2012 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Liferleafer (Post 56327281)
Well i'll tell you this, i'd do that Kipper deal in a heartbeat.

Ya it sounds like a pretty nice deal for Toronto. If we get enough responses we can make a proposal thread

Kadri for Kipper

capitalsrock 12-06-2012 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Oilin Toronto (Post 56327381)
Toronto is offering up too much for an overpriced, over the hill, and an underachieving goalie like Luongo.

Haha underachieving? Internationally, Luongo has competed for Team Canada in numerous tournaments. As a junior, he won a silver medal at the 1999 World Junior Championships, while being named Best Goaltender in his second tournament appearance. Luongo has won two gold medals at the 2003 and 2004 World Championships and a silver in the 2005 World Championships. He also won the 2004 World Cup championship and appeared in the 2006 Winter Olympics in Turin as a backup to Martin Brodeur in both instances. He succeeded Brodeur as Canada's starting goaltender during the 2010 Winter Olympics in Vancouver, winning a gold medal. On top of that, Luongo has won two consecutive President's Trophies as the starting goaltender for the past 2 seasons. It seems like you are only thinking he is underachieving because he has never won a stanley cup which is not the only possible award someone can be given


Copied most of this from Wikipedia, already knew most of it but didn't feel like typing it all up.

Numbers 12-06-2012 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by capitalsrock (Post 56327933)
Haha underachieving? Internationally, Luongo has competed for Team Canada in numerous tournaments. As a junior, he won a silver medal at the 1999 World Junior Championships, while being named Best Goaltender in his second tournament appearance. Luongo has won two gold medals at the 2003 and 2004 World Championships and a silver in the 2005 World Championships. He also won the 2004 World Cup championship and appeared in the 2006 Winter Olympics in Turin as a backup to Martin Brodeur in both instances. He succeeded Brodeur as Canada's starting goaltender during the 2010 Winter Olympics in Vancouver, winning a gold medal. On top of that, Luongo has won two consecutive President's Trophies as the starting goaltender for the past 2 seasons. It seems like you are only thinking he is underachieving because he has never won a stanley cup which is not the only possible award someone can be given


Copied most of this from Wikipedia, already knew most of it but didn't feel like typing it all up.

Not Luongo thread please.

KingCanadain1976 12-06-2012 10:54 PM

I would trade the rights to oscar moller and a 3rd for kadi I know this doesn't sound like alot but in my opinion Kadri s stock in toronto is sliding and I don't see him making the toronto roster Many prospect have imo passed him on the leafs ( biggs ashton ross etc ) With that said i'd still take a chance on him. A change of scenery in a less pressured hockey market i think would turn him around.

Leafs87 12-06-2012 10:56 PM

Not worth giving up IMO. He can really be a good player and alot of leafs fans have no given up on him, and his value is at its lowest. For arguement sake though, I would say a deal around Jon Bernier and Nazem Kadri would entice me (although Im not sure who would be adding and how much, tbh I have watch Bernier but not so much to make a fair evaluation). Another deal that might make sense is trading him for another prospect who is struggling, like mentioned before but I feel like Kadri is worth more then Beach.....

Again that is for argument sake since I believe most leafs fans, self included still see potential and would rather keep him. He isnt too far away from the NHL, very skilled just needs to work on his defensive game and decision making.

Leafs87 12-06-2012 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by KingCanadain1976 (Post 56328209)
I would trade the rights to oscar moller and a 3rd for kadi I know this doesn't sound like alot but in my opinion Kadri s stock in toronto is sliding and I don't see him making the toronto roster Many prospect have imo passed him on the leafs ( biggs ashton ross etc ) With that said i'd still take a chance on him. A change of scenery in a less pressured hockey market i think would turn him around.

Not one of those players make him expandable as they are more energy bottom six guys and he has top six potential. Aside from that, I don't know what you are basing your opinion on when you say they passed him, because IMO the only two more NHL ready bodies on the Marlies right now are Gardiner and Frattin, and a case can be made that Ranger is an NHL player playing in the AHL.


As for Moller and a 3rd... No way

ottawa* 12-06-2012 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by KingCanadain1976 (Post 56328209)
I would trade the rights to oscar moller and a 3rd for kadi I know this doesn't sound like alot but in my opinion Kadri s stock in toronto is sliding and I don't see him making the toronto roster Many prospect have imo passed him on the leafs ( biggs ashton ross etc ) With that said i'd still take a chance on him. A change of scenery in a less pressured hockey market i think would turn him around.

Lol what? Care to expand on that??



Anyways, to answer the OPs question, as a habs fan I'd offer a 2014 mid 1st or later. His development certainly hasn't been the quickest but the way people always make him out to be a bust its so dumb :shakehead. I enjoy ragging on the leafs as much as the next person but there's no way Kadri can be called a bust based on 50 games (half of them with sheltered minutes). I'm not saying he won't bust but I would certainly give him at least 1-3 seasons before calling him one.

Tuomaz 12-06-2012 11:04 PM

Paajarvi

Predsrule 12-06-2012 11:06 PM

I think they would be crazy to take a late first for him...
kid is only 22 putting up good numbers in the ahl, There are lots of players that didnt make the nhl at 21... but because this one plays for Tor hes make nhl at 18 or bust.. even by tor fans..
Id love to have him on the preds and think he is worth more then a late first.

Leafs87 12-06-2012 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Predsrule (Post 56328567)
I think they would be crazy to take a late first for him...
kid is only 22 putting up good numbers in the ahl, There are lots of players that didnt make the nhl at 21... but because this one plays for Tor hes make nhl at 18 or bust.. even by tor fans..
Id love to have him on the preds and think he is worth more then a late first.

Colin Wilson ? :naughty:


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