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CL SMOOTH 12-08-2012 12:04 AM

Montreal-philly blockbuster
 
1 Attachment(s)

Montreal

Carey Price
Dalton Thrower
David Desharnais
3rd Round pick



Philadelphia

Ilya bryzgalov
Brayden Schenn
Scott Hartnell
2013 First Round Pick
2014 First Round Pick

Dylonus 12-08-2012 12:07 AM

Why does this say rumor? Is this your proposal, or something you're claiming is a rumor without giving a proper source?

The Podium 12-08-2012 12:07 AM

Is it a proposal or a rumour:huh:

Anyway Habs fans will hate this....

joshcateyes 12-08-2012 12:08 AM

Price is not going anywhere. Thats also a terrible trade Bryzgalov, Schenn, Hartnell AND 2 first round picks? Hell thats probably what it would take to get price out of Montreal. Yeah this is a bad trade for the Flyers plus Price is not going ANYWHERE.

spiny norman 12-08-2012 12:10 AM

Changed prefix to Proposal.

The Podium 12-08-2012 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joshcateyes (Post 56359775)
Price is not going anywhere. Thats also a terrible trade Bryzgalov, Schenn, Hartnell AND 2 first round picks? Hell thats probably what it would take to get price out of Montreal. Yeah this is a bad trade for the Flyers plus Price is not going ANYWHERE.

Its an incredible deal for Philly..... It takes 2 players off their team and 1 goalie that they want to give away, Hartnell is a good 1st line fill in, great 2nd liner, while Schenns role can easily be replaced by Couturier. The 1st will likely be late and this would be the first time in Flyer's history that theyd have a true franchise goalie.

Dylonus 12-08-2012 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Podium (Post 56359831)
Its an incredible deal for Philly..... It takes 2 players off their team and 1 goalie that they want to give away, Hartnell is a good 1st line fill in, great 2nd liner, while Schenns role can easily be replaced by Couturier. The 1st will likely be late and this would be the first time in Flyer's history that theyd have a true franchise goalie.

What in the world? :laugh:

Why would Philly want to GIVE AWAY Hartnell? He just put up 37 goals and has incredible chemistry with their star center. Not to mention Schenn has been great defensively... He did great in the playoffs as well...

Not sure if your comments were serious, or you just pulled them out of a hat :huh:

The Podium 12-08-2012 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dylonus (Post 56359895)
What in the world? :laugh:

Why would Philly want to GIVE AWAY Hartnell? He just put up 37 goals and has incredible chemistry with their star center. Not to mention Schenn has been great defensively... He did great in the playoffs as well...

Not sure if your comments were serious, or you just pulled them out of a hat :huh:

Where did i say they would give him away?

The deal breaks down to

blue-chip prospect
1b/2a W
cap dump
2 late 1sts

for

franchise goalie
2a/2b C
B level prospect

If im Philly, i take the package, their goaltending woes will be a lot harder to fill then the loss of Hartnell, while the loss of Schenn will be negligible with Couturier already on the team.

EDIT: I see our confusion. I worded it wrong, the giveaway part was meant specifically for Bryzgalov.

LetsGoFlyers1825 12-08-2012 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Podium (Post 56359831)
Its an incredible deal for Philly..... It takes 2 players off their team and 1 goalie that they want to give away, Hartnell is a good 1st line fill in, great 2nd liner, while Schenns role can easily be replaced by Couturier. The 1st will likely be late and this would be the first time in Flyer's history that theyd have a true franchise goalie.

What is this I dont even...

The upgrade from Price to Bryzgalov is not worth this price. Would much rather hold on to the two firsts, Schenn, and Hartnell and then just count on a Bryzgalov bounce back. I understand why Montreal would want to do this trade, however.

The Podium 12-08-2012 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LetsGoFlyers1825 (Post 56359995)
What is this I dont even...

The upgrade from Price to Bryzgalov is not worth this price. Would much rather hold on to the two firsts, Schenn, and Hartnell and then just count on a Bryzgalov bounce back. I understand why Montreal would want to do this trade, however.

The upgrade is definitely worth it.

A Leaf equivalent would be Lupul + Gardiner + Komisarek + 2 1st and i take that and run.

BigBenSF* 12-08-2012 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dylonus (Post 56359895)
What in the world? :laugh:

Why would Philly want to GIVE AWAY Hartnell? He just put up 37 goals and has incredible chemistry with their star center. Not to mention Schenn has been great defensively... He did great in the playoffs as well...

Not sure if your comments were serious, or you just pulled them out of a hat :huh:

I think you may have misread the comment. He was only talking about Bryz, obviously they have high hopes for Schenn and love Hartnell.

Montreal does not do the deal, Price means too much to MTL, the only way he would leave is if a true superstar comes the other way. Philly may pull the trigger as they get a franchise goalie plus a young center in Desharnais.

LetsGoFlyers1825 12-08-2012 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Podium (Post 56360027)
The upgrade is definitely worth it.

A Leaf equivalent would be Lupul + Gardiner + Komisarek + 2 1st and i take that and run.

Well I will just have to disagree. I am a fan of Bryz, and want to give him one more year before we attempt (Because it will be nearly impossible) to move his contract.

And I really hope you forgot the sarcastic smiley we the whole "Price being the Flyers' first ever franchise goalie" thing

Avs44 12-08-2012 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dylonus (Post 56359895)
What in the world? :laugh:

Why would Philly want to GIVE AWAY Hartnell? He just put up 37 goals and has incredible chemistry with their star center. Not to mention Schenn has been great defensively... He did great in the playoffs as well...

Not sure if your comments were serious, or you just pulled them out of a hat :huh:

He meant Bryz. Read more carefully next time.

ottawa 12-08-2012 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CL SMOOTH (Post 56359707)

Montreal

Carey Price
Dalton Thrower
David Desharnais
3rd Round pick



Philadelphia

Ilya bryzgalov
Brayden Schenn
Scott Hartnell
2013 First Round Pick
2014 First Round Pick

So basically the habs give:
Our elite goalie
Our 2nd line C
Mid-level prospect

and the habs get:
A goalie coming off a down season (and post season)
A 30 year old winger, as good as he is now he is still signed to a 4.75m cap until he's 36
A promising and young 3rd line center (that is fair but he is not a replacement for DD)
And two probably late firsts


No way from the habs fanbase. If we're giving up Price (which we're not) and Desharnais I want to see Couturier + Bryz coming back

The Podium 12-08-2012 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LetsGoFlyers1825 (Post 56360095)
Well I will just have to disagree. I am a fan of Bryz, and want to give him one more year before we attempt (Because it will be nearly impossible) to move his contract.

And I really hope you forgot the sarcastic smiley we the whole "Price being the Flyers' first ever franchise goalie" thing

I didnt think it was necessary, but its been a while:laugh:

LetsGoFlyers1825 12-08-2012 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Podium (Post 56360127)
I didnt think it was necessary, but its been a while:laugh:

Oh I know it has (:cry:), but I thought that maybe the Philadelphia Goalie Stereotype had gotten that bad :laugh:

Jray42 12-08-2012 12:37 AM

No thanks from Philly POV

flyershockey 12-08-2012 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jray42 (Post 56360271)
No thanks from Philly POV

Yup. The homer is strong in this thread. Schenn wouldn't replace Desharnais? Please...

LyricalLyricist 12-08-2012 01:00 AM

That's a big offer for Price. I see at least you didn't hold back but still don't think it will work.

Habs never give big contracts like that so they probably wouldn't take another off getting burned first time.

ProstheticConscience 12-08-2012 02:59 AM

Wouldn't do it from the Habs pov. No way.

palindrom 12-08-2012 05:48 AM

You know, People incorrectly call me a Price hater, because as a Montreal fan, i constantly offer Price bellow what they think is his expected value in different proposal.

And even me would not make this deal.

Take out Bryzgalov
Dalton Thrower
David Desharnais
3rd Round pick

i could give you the option to protect your first

and we can talk.

LEAFANFORLIFE23 12-08-2012 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by palindrom (Post 56363485)
You know, People incorrectly call me a Price hater, because as a Montreal fan, i constantly offer Price bellow what they think is his expected value in different proposal.

And even me would not make this deal.

Take out Bryzgalov
Dalton Thrower
David Desharnais
3rd Round pick

i could give you the option to protect your first


and we can talk.

and your goalie would be? if bryz is taken out

palindrom 12-08-2012 05:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LEAFANFORLIFE23 (Post 56363511)
and your goalie would be? if bryz is taken out

Any NHL caliber goalie other than Bryzgalov would be a better option than Bryzgalov.

Edit : a new CBA could change my opinion on this. (an amnesty clause could greatly diminish the risk to have Bryzgalov contract and therefore increase his value.)

LEAFANFORLIFE23 12-08-2012 06:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by palindrom (Post 56363523)
Anyone else than Bryzgalov would be a better option than Bryzgalov.

based on what? a bad playoff? cause his season looking at his numbers wasn't that bad.

goalies are hard to find we have been looking for 6 years

nmbr_24 12-08-2012 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Podium (Post 56359831)
Its an incredible deal for Philly..... It takes 2 players off their team and 1 goalie that they want to give away, Hartnell is a good 1st line fill in, great 2nd liner, while Schenns role can easily be replaced by Couturier. The 1st will likely be late and this would be the first time in Flyer's history that theyd have a true franchise goalie.

I don't think you know anything about the Flyers history.


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