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daver 12-08-2012 08:43 AM

Crosby: What could have been
 
Looks like we are heading for a third straight year that's a writeoff for Crosby. What do you think his numbers would have looked like over the past three years if no concussion or lockout.

Lim Ran 12-08-2012 09:21 AM

A lot of points and a big shiny cup. I suppose nobody remembers how dominant the Penguins and Crosby were the year he got hurt, but it was pretty scary.

Edit: I wonder how many years it'll be before Steckel admits that wasn't entirely unintentional.

Benny FTW 12-08-2012 10:52 AM

Average below 120 points

Fire Dumboer 12-08-2012 12:08 PM

You can't keep up the play he was having the whole entire year so average under 120

1972 12-08-2012 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by iiTzLaMia (Post 56368143)
You can't keep up the play he was having the whole entire year so average under 120

Crosby can

Jp20 12-08-2012 12:50 PM

he could still reach any of those options if he stays healthy

Fred Taylor 12-08-2012 01:06 PM

50 goals and 120+ points

BLASPHEMOUS 12-08-2012 01:08 PM

I think he could've averaged 130 points. He got 66 points in 41 games in 2010-11, then 37 in 22 in a shortened season where he was obviously still rusty. He raised his game, and at his best he dominates the entire ice like it's no one's business. :yo:

nowhereman 12-08-2012 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by iiTzLaMia (Post 56368143)
You can't keep up the play he was having the whole entire year so average under 120

He's done it before. And, over the last 82 games, he's scored 130+ points.

The guy averages 110 points a year and now he's not going to put up 120+ in a career year, just as he's entering his prime?

TheyAreGoodScaryGood 12-08-2012 03:32 PM

Atleast 120+ points, probably 130+

Kane One 12-08-2012 03:33 PM

He's the best and all, but there's no way I think he would average 120+ points.

Also, how can anyone possibly think he would average 50+ goals? He only has one 50 goal season, and only in one of his shortened seasons he was on pace for 50+.

TheyAreGoodScaryGood 12-08-2012 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by kaneone (Post 56373359)
He's the best and all, but there's no way I think he would average 120+ points.

Look at what he accomplished at ages 18-21 and he probably wouldve improved as he got older

Kane One 12-08-2012 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TheyAreGoodScaryGood (Post 56373391)
Look at what he accomplished at ages 18-21 and he probably wouldve improved as he got older

If you adjust every season in which he played less than 82 games, he wouldn't be averaging 120 points. Some of those seasons include years where he was older than 21.

Lebowski 12-08-2012 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by kaneone (Post 56373359)
He's the best and all, but there's no way I think he would average 120+ points.

Also, how can anyone possibly think he would average 50+ goals? He only has one 50 goal season, and only in one of his shortened seasons he was on pace for 50+.

Well, in 10-11 all he would've needed is 18 goals/ 54 points in the remaining 41 games of the seasons to get 50 goals/120 points, which is almost .1 below his career PPG. It's safe to assume he would've easily achieved 120 points that year, and possibly even 130+ pts, considering he was coming off a 25 games 50 points streak.

Last season, Crosby was almost playing at a 1,7 PPG clip. He would've needed 42 goals in the remaining 60 games (unlikely, but not impossible) to get 50 goals, and 83 points over the last 60 games to get 120 points, which is slightly below is career average PPG.

All in all, I think he would've easily get 50 goals / 120+ points in 10-11, and while 50 goals would've been harder to achieve last season, he was on pace to get much more than 120 points (138, to be exact). And that's without accounting for the time he lost due injury, which most definitely made him rusty at times.

Kane One 12-08-2012 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Lebowski (Post 56374191)
Well, in 10-11 all he would've needed is 18 goals/ 54 points in the remaining 41 games of the seasons to get 50 goals/120 points, which is almost .1 below his career PPG. It's safe to assume he would've easily achieved 120 points that year, and possibly even 130+ pts, considering he was coming off a 25 games 50 points streak.

Last season, Crosby was almost playing at a 1,7 PPG clip. He would've needed 42 goals in the remaining 60 games (unlikely, but not impossible) to get 50 goals, and 83 points over the last 60 games to get 120 points, which is slightly below is career average PPG.

All in all, I think he would've easily get 50 goals / 120+ points in 10-11, and while 50 goals would've been harder to achieve last season, he was on pace to get much more than 120 points (138, to be exact). And that's without accounting for the time he lost due injury, which most definitely made him rusty at times.

True, but how about the seasons prior? This OP is asking how what he would average if he never got injured and if there is no lockout. In his first few years, he wouldn't be averaging this, which will bring down his average that the poll is asking for.

Lebowski 12-08-2012 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by kaneone (Post 56374263)
True, but how about the seasons prior? This OP is asking how what he would average if he never got injured and if there is no lockout. In his first few years, he wouldn't be averaging this, which will bring down his average that the poll is asking for.

Well, he says only the last 3 seasons, which only includes the 51 goals / 109 points season in 09/10.

So basically, to bring his average at 120 pts / 50 goals over the last 3 years, he would only need to produce roughly 125 points/50 goals over his last two shortened seasons.

Kane One 12-08-2012 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Lebowski (Post 56374373)
Well, he says only the last 3 seasons, which only includes the 51 goals / 109 points season in 09/10.

So basically, to bring his average at 120 pts / 50 goals over the last 3 years, he would only need to produce roughly 125 points/50 goals over his last two shortened seasons.

Oh, I didn't see the last 3 years part. I guess it's possible. If I had to choose something other than below 120 points, because I don't think it's easy to predict someone to get that, I would vote for 40+ goals with 120+ points.

MrFunnyWobbl 12-08-2012 04:55 PM

40/120

DatsyukianDeke 12-09-2012 06:47 AM

Under 120.

CanucksSayEh 12-09-2012 03:08 PM

He is good at hockey.

FakeKidPoker* 12-09-2012 03:52 PM

He puts up huge regular season numbers with Malkin and everyone says why bother playing the playoffs and they flame out in round 1 or 2 again.


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