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The Brewmeister 12-09-2012 10:04 PM

Crosby/Ovechkin = MacKinnon/Yakupov?
 
Obviously similar scenarios, birth countries (and cities), of course I'm not first to figure this out.


But would the rivalry between Crosby and Ovechkin be comparable to the situation that MacKinnon and Yakupov are in?


Sorry if there are threads on these, I don't visit the prospects/NHL discussion threads often.

Novak Djokovic 12-09-2012 10:06 PM

No because MacKinnon will be drafted by the Oilers. :sarcasm:

Richiebottles 12-09-2012 10:08 PM

I dont know if it is comparable due to the fact that crosby and ovie and mac and yak arent the same type of players. Mac is like more like tavares and less like crosby and yak does really play like ovy. There might be the same rivalry between the two though. Time will tell..

Crede777 12-09-2012 10:09 PM

Didn't Pittsburgh lose the draft for Ovie and get Malkin, then won the draft during the lockout?

Columbus lost the draft for Yakupov and got Murray. Maybe we'll win this draft?

nowhereman 12-09-2012 10:30 PM

I'm not sure if anyone in this thread has mentioned this, but MacKinnon will probably end up playing for the Oilers...

In all seriousness, probably not. Crosby and Ovechkin were the de facto #1A and #1B best players in the NHL and were counted on to be the faces of the NHL. Neither Yakopov nor MacKinnon will be the two best players in the NHL and I doubt the NHL will attempt to manufacture a rivalry between the two. Also, there's a chance they'll play in different conferences and only meet once or twice a year.

The Brewmeister 12-09-2012 10:42 PM

So what I'm getting from this is that Phoenix will draft MacKinnon, save a dying franchise, and develop the greatest rivalry since Gretzky and Lemieux?

Or that MacKinnon is going to the Oilers :(

Finlandia WOAT 12-09-2012 11:10 PM

Crosby and Ovechkin were drafted onto teams that, if they were not already rivals, at least had a history of playoff defeat and emotionally charged games with one another.

Maybe if MacKinnon gets drafted by Calgary (which could very well happen). But the NHL won't try to promote the rivalry due to the lack of impact on the U.S. market.

5RingsAndABeer 12-09-2012 11:24 PM

I'm an Oilers fan but in terms of skill Yakupov doesn't come anywhere close to what Ovechkin was...and I doubt MacKinnon touches Crosby either.

That's pretty important for a rivalry. At one point Crosby/Ovechkin were virtually unanimously regarded as 1/2 in the world. I doubt that'll happen with Yakupov/MacKinnon

#66 12-09-2012 11:32 PM

Just to ask... what if the new CBA isn't in place by the draft? Does the NHL do an all inclusive draft in 2014?

Xokkeu 12-10-2012 04:48 AM

Not even remotely similar because Crosby and Ovechkin were the best players in the world for several years and the face of the league. Nothing is impossible, but Yakupov and MacKinnon do not project as generational players.

crazy Kassian 12-10-2012 05:38 AM

no because oilers will be drafted by the MacKinnon

but seriously no because Yakupov is on the oilers


you can't replicate that rivalry when Yak shares the spotlight with RNH and the other two forwards although I think he will turn out to be the best

Vasilevskiy 12-10-2012 06:30 AM

No lol

And its too early anyway

Harry Waters 12-10-2012 07:04 AM

How about no?

Seriously, I don't get this kind of questions - even if there could be given an answer, and this answer would be "yes, the situation is comparable", where do people want to go with that?

Perhaps I'm a sceptic, but I just don't see any meaningful debates following such observations.

IHaveNoCreativity 12-10-2012 11:18 AM

No, not even close.

Sterling31 12-10-2012 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crede777 (Post 56409603)
Didn't Pittsburgh lose the draft for Ovie and get Malkin, then won the draft during the lockout?

Columbus lost the draft for Yakupov and got Murray. Maybe we'll win this draft?

Makes sense.

Talk to Gary, he can set it up for your team too!

wgknestrick 12-10-2012 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crede777 (Post 56409603)
Didn't Pittsburgh lose the draft for Ovie and get Malkin, then won the draft during the lockout?

Columbus lost the draft for Yakupov and got Murray. Maybe we'll win this draft?

I'd like the Pens to "lose" more drafts if every draft they "lose", they draft a Malkin. Unless OV gets his game back, you could argue that WSH was the one who lost.

DuckJet 12-10-2012 02:11 PM

No. They're a tier or two below those guys.

Still loling at the Grigorenko is the next Malkin homers...at least Buffalo fans are a little less absurd about their expectations.

Leaf Rocket 12-10-2012 02:42 PM

Don't think so.

jukon 12-10-2012 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crede777 (Post 56409603)
Didn't Pittsburgh lose the draft for Ovie and get Malkin, then won the draft during the lockout?

Columbus lost the draft for Yakupov and got Murray. Maybe we'll win this draft?

Pittsburgh truely lucked out then because Malkin>>Ovie. Maybe things would have been different had Crosby and Ovie been teammates instead of rivals.

pooleboy 12-10-2012 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Serbian Power (Post 56409517)
No because MacKinnon will be drafted by the Oilers. :sarcasm:

lol i would die laughing.

KovalSNIPE 12-11-2012 12:55 AM

Even if the Oilers got MacKinnon, they'll still be s****y because between him, Hall, Eberle, Nugent-Hopkins, Schultz, and Yakupov, they would take up so much cap space that they'd have barely any $$ to acquire any decent depth players.

5RingsAndABeer 12-11-2012 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KovalSNIPE (Post 56443157)
Even if the Oilers got MacKinnon, they'll still be s****y because between him, Hall, Eberle, Nugent-Hopkins, Schultz, and Yakupov, they would take up so much cap space that they'd have barely any $$ to acquire any decent depth players.

Not really. They would dominate with a core like that. Depth players can be had for cheap. They'd be able to transition off ELCs for quite some time.

oilersfan11 12-11-2012 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KovalSNIPE (Post 56443157)
Even if the Oilers got MacKinnon, they'll still be s****y because between him, Hall, Eberle, Nugent-Hopkins, Schultz, and Yakupov, they would take up so much cap space that they'd have barely any $$ to acquire any decent depth players.

There's no way that the Oilers would pick Mackinnon over Seth Jones.


1)Get a potential franchise defenseman in the draft.

2)Sign a big number 2 centreman through Unrestricted free agency.




Done

PensBandwagonerNo272 12-11-2012 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oilersfan11 (Post 56444957)
There's no way that the Oilers would pick Mackinnon over Seth Jones.


1)Get a potential franchise defenseman in the draft.

2)Sign a big number 2 centreman through Unrestricted free agency.




Done

Nope

You always take the best possible player with the number one pick

oilersfan11 12-11-2012 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PensBandwagonerNo272 (Post 56446631)
Nope

You always take the best possible player with the number one pick

Exactly, and Jones is the BPA.


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