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Francesa 12-11-2012 04:02 PM

Dbacks/Reds/Indians 3-way trade (Choo to CIN, Stubbs+Bauer to CLE, Gregorius to AZ)
 
http://twitter.com/DKnobler/statuses/278604534870310913

Quote:

Reds deep in talks on deal to acquire Shin-soo Choo from Indians for Stubbs and Gregorius. cbsprt.co/UfMpzf
Indians on their way to an AL Central title!!!!!! Just another piece in the puzzle

FULL TRADE:

To Reds

OF Sin-Shoo Choo
IF Jason Donald
Cash (3.5 M - From Indians)

To Diamondbacks

SS Didi Gregorius
LHP Tony Sipp
1B Lars Anderson

To Indians

OF Drew Stubbs
SP Trevor Bauer
RP Matt Albers
RP Bryan Shaw

MurrayBannerman 12-11-2012 04:04 PM

Sounds like a good deal for the Tribe.

Clowe Me 12-11-2012 04:04 PM

Stubbs has great speed on the bases and range in center, but he can't get on base to save his life.

Pyro Kinesis 12-11-2012 04:08 PM

Choo was gone anyway, so looking forward to these two coming in. Team is looking better and better every day.

BCS 12-11-2012 04:11 PM

I like it for both. The Reds upgrade for next season's championship push and the Indians get a nice package for one year of Choo.

Edit: Never mind. Stubbs is way worse than I thought.

Francesa 12-11-2012 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Pyro Kinesis (Post 56456853)
Choo was gone anyway, so looking forward to these two coming in. Team is looking better and better every day.

They're going to free up more space to trade Asdrubal too!!!!! AL Central champs!

Pyro Kinesis 12-11-2012 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish on The Sand (Post 56457469)
Like I said at the time of the Acta firing, Antonetti and Shapiro are garbage.

Sorry, you're wrong. The garbage left when Acta got fired.

Francesa 12-11-2012 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Pyro Kinesis (Post 56457521)
Sorry, you're wrong. The garbage left when Acta got fired.

Shapiro and Antonetti have only been to the playoffs twice in 12 years

No excuses

Both of them should be fired

Pyro Kinesis 12-11-2012 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ixcuincle (Post 56457591)
Shapiro and Antonetti have only been to the playoffs twice in 12 years

No excuses

Both of them should be fired

Not their faults at all. We have never had the right manager.
Until now.

davebenj 12-11-2012 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish on The Sand (Post 56457395)
Stubbs is a giant piece of crap. Offensively he's about as good as a pitcher.

This. I don't get the fascination with Stubbs at all.

MurrayBannerman 12-11-2012 05:08 PM

If they get any sort of mix of the 4 WAR player in 2010 and the player who put up a 6.8 UZR this year, it'll look nice.

Marc the Habs Fan 12-11-2012 05:14 PM

Choo as a CF would be an interesting experiment if this deal goes through.

MurrayBannerman 12-11-2012 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Better Call Saul (Post 56458885)
For some reason I was under the impression Stubbs was a league-average hitter last season. But a .271 wOBA? Wow. I like this deal for Cleveland a lot less now than I did initially.

Same here, but like I said, there's upside potential

darko 12-11-2012 05:23 PM

Hopefully Choo hits lead off for Reds. Not the best option there but it gets Phillips out a lead off spot.

Marc the Habs Fan 12-11-2012 05:24 PM

https://twitter.com/hoynsie/status/278624420728283136

paul hoynes ‏@hoynsie
3 team dealing cooking among #Indians, Reds, Arizona. Shin-Soo Choo headed to Cincy. Asdrubal Cabrera not involved as of right now.

Towers said to love Gregorious.

OrioleWay 12-11-2012 05:25 PM

choo is average defender. and he's going to be cf for them? it's good trade because stubbs has no future with reds but that's quite an experiment.

BCS 12-11-2012 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MurrayBannerman (Post 56458929)
Same here, but like I said, there's upside potential

Yep. If he can revert to his 2010-11 ways and just be an average-ish offensive player, he'll be a valuable pickup.

darko 12-11-2012 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Marc the Habs Fan (Post 56459021)
Towers said to love Gregorious.


Plus defender at SS and he's been looking for one.

Marc the Habs Fan 12-11-2012 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by imayagainknowanson (Post 56459085)
choo is average defender. and he's going to be cf for them?

Maybe they think Bruce can play CF. :dunno:

He played 35 games in CF in 2008.

Marc the Habs Fan 12-11-2012 07:52 PM

Diamondbacks/Reds/Indians 3-way trade (Choo to CIN, Stubbs to CLE, Gregorius to AZ)
 
https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal

Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal
Three-team trade, per source, will look like this: Choo, Jason Donald to #Reds, Gregorius to #Diamondbacks, Stubbs, AZ pitcher to #Indians.

Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal
Corbin, Skaggs and Bauer were among #Diamondbacks pitchers who were in play. #Indians would get one in this deal; Skaggs unlikely.

If Towers really traded Bauer for Gregorius...:help:

Static 12-11-2012 08:09 PM

What the hell is Arizona doing? Of the three it better be Corbin.

Avs_19 12-11-2012 08:15 PM

@BNightengale: The #Dbacks are wary of Cabrera the way he looked down the stretch, telling #Indians they want Gregorius, in return for Bauer or Corbin

The Indians might get Bauer for a guy who would have walked next year?

darko 12-11-2012 08:17 PM

If it's Corbin it's a good deal.

Pyro Kinesis 12-11-2012 08:27 PM

It will probably be Corbin, because that's just our luck, but if it's Bauer/Skaggs, it's a HR deal for the Tribe.

OrioleWay 12-11-2012 08:31 PM

gregorius is expendable for reds, blocked by cozart and hamilton. I wouldnt lie anything more than collmenter is terrible deal for dbacks.


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