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FissionFire 12-12-2012 12:21 AM

Favorite Ken Holland Trade
 
Pretty simple question. What has been your favorite trade made during Ken Holland's reign as GM? Doesn't have to be the best value, but just the trade you liked the most for whatever reason.

Forgot to add Other as an option, but feel free to post other suggestions.

Complete listing of Ken Holland's trade can be found here: http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...d.php?t=576043

Henkka 12-12-2012 01:35 AM

Definitely the Chelios trade. "You maybe got 2-3 more years from him." -Chicago source said.

We got 10 years, 2 Cups, defensive prospect developer, super specialist for conditioning, etc...

The Zetterberg Era 12-12-2012 02:09 AM

It is probably the Chelios trade. Filppula was a third round pick don't remember that being traded around either although it could have been.

Least favorite: Robert Lang deal

ricky0034 12-12-2012 04:33 AM

other

2011 first round pick traded to Ottawa for two seconds(used for Jurco and Ouellet)

Zorin 12-12-2012 04:48 AM

Cheli with Hasek, Larionov and Stuart being runner up.

Butt I too liked all those trading downs in recent years. The mentioned Ouellet/Jurco deal was the best of those but not the only one!

ProPAIN 12-12-2012 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ricky0034 (Post 56473827)
other

2011 first round pick traded to Ottawa for two seconds(used for Jurco and Ouellet)

If they pan out, absolutely. It'll be like having two firsts. With Sproul, that second round looks like an absolute winner.

Basically what we got from Chelios like Henkka said makes that trade the best.

Stuart trade worked well too, since he played an important role in the 08 Cup.

Big Poppa Puck 12-12-2012 07:58 AM

inb4 Quincey.

ProPAIN 12-12-2012 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iRep TheWingedWheel (Post 56475113)
inb4 Quincey.

Don't even joke about that :shakehead



;)

pdd 12-12-2012 10:16 AM

IMHO, while Chelios worked out well, I thought the trade was a bit of overpayment. Eriksson was a young top four defenseman and we put two 1sts on top of him, ad Chelios was declining quickly in Chicago. He was on the outs and probably not returning the next season no matter what.

As for the suggestion that the Lang deal was bad... wrong.

Run the Jewels 12-12-2012 11:57 AM

I went with Cheli. The Chelios trade didn't put us immediately over the top like Dom and Stu but he did help to offset the loss of Fischer and continues to provide value - even if he didn't bring us Justin Schultz. :sarcasm:

RedWingsNow* 12-12-2012 12:29 PM

I was thinking Chelios. But that price was pretty high.
I was thinking Larionov.
Hasek for Kozlov was another important trade.

But I went with Stuart, who was crucial to our most recent cup run and who came at a great price.
As good as Chelios was and as much as I like him, he really only won a single cup here (we was a bit player on the second one). And he cost us 2 firsts and a young defenseman who, though he proved to be a bit of a bust, had a lot of value.

RedWingsNow* 12-12-2012 12:30 PM

I don't understand how anyone could have voted for the Quincey trade or Bertuzzi trade.

SirloinUB 12-12-2012 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Bob (Post 56480917)
I don't understand how anyone could have voted for the Quincey trade or Bertuzzi trade.

That was me... Intended to vote for the Stuart trade. Accidently clicked the quincey one

shultzyfeelinirie20 12-12-2012 01:45 PM

in that Lang trade who was taken with that 2004st rounder we coulda had????

HockeytownOverhaul 12-12-2012 01:55 PM

That would be one Michael Green, Shultzy. Also traded Fleischmann who's now a top 6 player. He's like Flip was forever before this last season. Has the chops to play up top, makes the bottom 6 REALLY good if you have no space to slot him on the 2nd line. Like Kopecky was as well.

shultzyfeelinirie20 12-12-2012 02:19 PM

you serious it was mike green i knew about Fleischman and how good of a all around player he turned into but you sayin we could have Green on the backend right now wtf

HockeytownOverhaul 12-12-2012 03:30 PM

And I had to go with The Professor. Picking up him and Shanny put us over the hump to end the cup drought (per Holland himself) and we have him to thank for "Red Wings" style hockey we're known for now. Also mentored Datsyuk along with Hull. No Russian 5 without him.

HockeytownOverhaul 12-12-2012 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shultzyfeelinirie20 (Post 56484051)
you serious it was mike green i knew about Fleischman and how good of a all around player he turned into but you sayin we could have Green on the backend right now wtf

Then you'll love this, we traded our 3rd rounder to Nashville for their 4th rounder to nab goaltender Liv. That third rounder eventually went to Philly for Mark Eaton in which Philly drafted Patrick Sharp. Hindsight is 20/20 though, but man it'd be nice to have had him with Detroit the past 8 years. Of course he'd probably be slotted as a 3rd line winger based on projections.

TS Quint 12-12-2012 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shultzyfeelinirie20 (Post 56484051)
you serious it was mike green i knew about Fleischman and how good of a all around player he turned into but you sayin we could have Green on the backend right now wtf

What's to say the Wings would have picked a Dman let alone green with that pick? The Wings picked forwards with their first two picks that year. there are 4 or 5 other teams that picked dmen before Green that should be more upset. Andrej Meszaros is the only other decent Dman in the first round.

Hobnobs 12-12-2012 04:18 PM

Best trade: Chelios
Worst trades: The other trades made around the deadline. (Samuelsson, Clark, Ranford) ugh... Nothing wrong with Ulfie tho really and picks meant nothing. We couldve probably picked up a better goalie and Clark was a broken down man at that time.

The Red Line 12-12-2012 04:47 PM

Hasek for sure.

waltdetroit 12-12-2012 05:25 PM

u asked for favorite..not best so I went with the old professor

WingedWheel1987 12-12-2012 05:51 PM

I really liked the Stuart trade because i like what he brought to the table and Holland recognized what the team was missing to put it over the edge. I vote Chelios because he has become an important part of the Wings organization after he retired.

I do wonder what role if any Holland had in some of these trades. Didn't Regier call Holland about his interest in Hasek? Tough to give Holland any credit for that trade. He did answer the phone so he gets +1 for that. His secretary might have answered the phone first though.......soooooo........yeah.

ZDH 12-12-2012 06:05 PM

Hasek a i n e c

FissionFire 12-12-2012 06:39 PM

Keep in mind the Larionov trade isn't the original one to bring him to Detroit. It was the trade to reacquire him after he signed with Florida because we were lowballing him.

My favorite trade is easily Jason Williams for Kyle Calder. Man I hated Williams so much and when he was moved I was beside myself with joy. Not the best trade by any means, but finally getting rid of Williams was definitely a fond memory.


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