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GopherState 12-12-2012 12:13 PM

So Who Is Bummed About The Lockout III ---> Season likely to start on Jan. 19th
 
I'm more indifferent at this point than anything.

Part I
Part II

Dee Oh Cee 12-12-2012 12:18 PM

I'm still bummed.

Dr Jan Itor 12-12-2012 12:21 PM

<-- This guy.

bozak911 12-12-2012 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jarick
If Fehr was not in charge and the NHL wasn't so aggressive with their initial offers, we might have had a deal in September...but it was clear from that 43% offer that Bettman was going to make the players sweat, so they decided to do the same thing with the league.

Again... That initial offer was no worse than the NBA's or the NFL's heading into their lockouts. All things considered, it was simply a "let's invert the numbers for a moment..." ploy.

To think that it was nothing more than the first step...

Northland Wild Man 12-12-2012 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dee Oh Cee (Post 56480609)
I'm still bummed.

Seconded

Averman 12-12-2012 01:25 PM

The NFL and NBA weren't less than a decade removed from a missed season. It was also a signal that the owners had little to no compunction about locking out the players once again.

Fehr's a colossal ****** who either doesn't care about or understand how to win the PR battle (or about the overall financial health of the league), but Bettman and the owners created the environment where the players felt their back was up against the wall enough to bring in a tool like Fehr.

TZM 12-12-2012 02:09 PM

All I wanna do is find a lockout to an end *dam-dam-dam-dam*

Dudicles 12-12-2012 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GopherState (Post 56480489)
I'm more indifferent at this point than anything.

Part I
Part II

I've said it before, but most of the stuff discussed in this thread is repetitive.

I'm showing as much care for this that the NHL/NHLPA are for their fans and employees....that is to say I'm apathetic and slightly defiant.

It's actually been quite interesting to discover that something that was a big part of my life has been shown to be not as important as it was made out to be (did that make sense?). Not that I don't miss it, but I have a hard time cheering for, supporting, and "living and dying" for a sport that doesn't give a rip about me. Not only that, but players and owners have basically lied to us fans by telling us how important and great we are. If that were the case, they'd have done their absolute best to not forfeit any of the season (and I think we can all agree that neither side did that).

I've filled my time with other things, some of which is far more fulfilling and rewarding (such as brewing beer with my friends).

/rambling rant

Jarick 12-12-2012 02:28 PM

My old roommate said the same thing last week at hockey. He was surprised how little he cared that the NHL wasn't going on. We ordered Center Ice every year and watched hockey every night.

If the hardcore fans are losing interest, it's going to be a disaster for the league.

Dudicles 12-12-2012 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jarick (Post 56484369)
My old roommate said the same thing last week at hockey. He was surprised how little he cared that the NHL wasn't going on. We ordered Center Ice every year and watched hockey every night.

If the hardcore fans are losing interest, it's going to be a disaster for the league.

Yup. I had Center Ice or Gamecenter Live each of the past 4 years, always bought a few hats and shirts every year, bought a few tickets to games each year. I run the emotional gambit with everyone else when the team wins and loses. I also had season tickets for 4 years, but I cancelled a few seasons ago because I couldn't afford them anymore.

But I just can't in good conscience devote that much fandom (dedicated time, money, and emotion) to a sport, team, or players that have shown they don't care about anything but dollar signs, especially when it's at the expense of everyone who supports them and allows for them to become filthy stinking rich.

When the NHL comes back, I'll watch the Wild on local television, but it will take a long, long time for me to actively spend money on them or the NHL again. And I will never again invest myself so emotionally in the league. Not after losing the North Stars, the '04-'05 season, and probably this year. Nope, not falling for it again.

bozak911 12-12-2012 04:41 PM

meh. i'll be back.

the only "protest" that the wife and i are adopting is that we will not spend cash on NHL official merchandise until at least 2015.

why 2015?

Detroit gets the next (2014) Winter Classic... LOL.

forthewild 12-12-2012 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bozak911 (Post 56488705)
meh. i'll be back.

the only "protest" that the wife and i are adopting is that we will not spend cash on NHL official merchandise until at least 2015.

why 2015?

Detroit gets the next (2014) Winter Classic... LOL.

so you won't get a wheat jersey redesign for Granlund/Brodin/dumba/MacKinnon

rynryn 12-12-2012 05:58 PM

man oh man am i bummed. still.

Dee Oh Cee 12-12-2012 06:17 PM

Link

Who knows if this actually means anything but I'll take it...

forthewild 12-12-2012 06:24 PM

http://www.hark.com/clips/txyrlhrcfs...ainbow-sherbet

this about sums what i believe from anyone related to anything about this lockout

Generic User 12-13-2012 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by forthewild (Post 56489915)
so you won't get a wheat jersey redesign for Granlund/Brodin/dumba/MacKinnon

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-B0h8cJkXY9...1600/tommy.gif

Jarick 12-13-2012 12:13 PM

Bettman, NHL appeal winners on paper

Lots of interesting thoughts here.

Billy Mays Here 12-13-2012 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jarick (Post 56510519)
Bettman, NHL appeal winners on paper

Lots of interesting thoughts here.

Some of the comments below that article are hilarious. Since when is Bettman trying to "destroy hockey in the U.S."? Last time I checked it seems like Bettman is trying to help hockey in the U.S. and keep it from getting bigger in Canada, not the other way around.

Jarick 12-13-2012 01:47 PM

What I've gleaned is that:

HF Boards and the USA in general are very pro-NHL, anti-PA
HF Boards Mods and Canada in general are very anti-NHL, pro-PA

Dee Oh Cee 12-13-2012 02:09 PM

I think I'm more of the Russo school of thought: Not pro anybody...just easy to point out how everyone has done things so poorly.

Jarick 12-13-2012 02:15 PM

Russo's been pretty firmly pro-NHL throughout (at least because in his eyes the players have nothing to gain from resisting the NHL offers).

Dee Oh Cee 12-13-2012 02:20 PM

Yeah you're probably right. He does acknowledge the faults of the NHL in his articles for sure...but the fact that they are acknowledgements as opposed to stand alone stories probably says something in itself.

bozak911 12-13-2012 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jarick (Post 56513891)
Russo's been pretty firmly pro-NHL throughout (at least because in his eyes the players have nothing to gain from resisting the NHL offers).

I beg to differ.

Russo has, at least, been the most objective about the entire mess. In some posts, he sounds like he is pro-player. In other posts, he sounds pro-NHL.

I think it has more to do with the reader's own perspective.

If you are pro-PA, he sounds pro-NHL. If you are pro-NHL, he sounds pro-PA.

reminds me of the study done quite a while ago on all of the cable news networks. in particular;
left of center: fox news horribly right wing / cnn centrist / msnbc slightly liberal
centrist: fox news right wing / cnn slightly left of center / msnbc left wing
right of center: fox news slightly right of center / cnn liberal / msnbc horribly left wing

/shrug

Jarick 12-13-2012 02:50 PM

He's been more critical of Fehr and the players than Bettman and the owners. It isn't just bias on my end.

bozak911 12-13-2012 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jarick (Post 56515213)
He's been more critical of Fehr and the players than Bettman and the owners. It isn't just bias on my end.

And he has been critical of the owners and Bettman/Daly as well.


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