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InjuredChoker 12-13-2012 05:17 AM

What would you be willing to give up for Kovalchuk?
 
We have/had discussion about this on the Wings board. Basically if NJ decided to go for a rebuild and with (claimed) financial problems they could be looking to trade Kovalchuk. I don't think Kovy would be very willing to be on a rebuilding team, either.

Wings would want him because we would get a Russian to play with Datsyuk and maybe Datsyuk would then stay here after he's contract ends.

But I think Wings don't have enough assets to get Kovy and there would be teams willing to give up more to get him?

So I'd be interested to hear; do you want Kovalchuk and how bad?

Reverend Mayhem 12-13-2012 05:19 AM

NJ wouldn't be happy with what I'd have to offer. Let's leave it at that.

StringerBell 12-13-2012 05:50 AM

Not the sexy answer you're looking for, but it really depends on the cap. If the cap stays high then I'd offer picks and prospects, but if it dropped it would have to be a lowball offer with Booth, Luongo etc.

me2 12-13-2012 06:23 AM

Finding the cap would be pretty hard next year.

JuniorNelson 12-13-2012 07:19 AM

I don't know if Vignault and Kovalchuk are a real good match.

Wilch 12-13-2012 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by JuniorNelson (Post 56505397)
I don't know if Vignault and Kovalchuk are a real good match.

Kovalchuk would see a ton of minutes on our team.

Would be absolutely deadly on the PP with the Sedins, too.

We don't have the necessary pieces to acquire someone like Kovy IMO.

wholesickcrew 12-13-2012 08:50 AM

With rumours of Edler going...

tc23 12-13-2012 08:51 AM

Would love to get Kovy but, unfortunately, we probably don't have the assets to acquire him without dismantling the team. Best we could do would probably be along the lines of Schneider+Booth+Jensen+1st.

Tiranis 12-13-2012 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JuniorNelson (Post 56505397)
I don't know if Vignault and Kovalchuk are a real good match.

Why in the world? He's one of the strongest two-way players on the Devils.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kemisti (Post 56504741)
So I'd be interested to hear; do you want Kovalchuk and how bad?

It would be crazy for any team not to want Kovalchuk, I think. That said, I don't see the Canucks having the assets. The guys we want to trade are the guys that won't be useful in a rebuild. Our strongest piece of interest to them is probably Schneider and I don't know that I would be willing to trade him.

skywarp75 12-13-2012 11:22 AM

i'd imagine they'd want kassian + 1st + tanev + a roster player

Vankiller Whale 12-13-2012 11:39 AM

I'd do Schneider + Kassian + pick. Or something like that. Maybe include Raymond as well.

arsmaster 12-13-2012 11:41 AM

Luongo

Fork 12-13-2012 11:57 AM

it starts with kesler and kassian and you add from there

its not happening

ItsAllPartOfThePlan 12-13-2012 11:58 AM

Luongo, Jensen and a first is the most I'd be willing to give up. Maybe switch the first with Edler if we are getting someone like Merrill back

L4cer8 12-13-2012 12:37 PM

Luongo, Edler, and a 2nd. But, Edler will walk before we can trade him.

Tiranis 12-13-2012 12:40 PM

Why in the world would they want Luongo if they're rebuilding and trading Kovalchuk?

Taelin 12-13-2012 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fork (Post 56510193)
it starts with kesler and kassian and you add from there

its not happening

If Kovy was 24 and had a lower caphit, I'd do that. But I don't feel like gutting our depth for him right now.

tc23 12-13-2012 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fork (Post 56510193)
it starts with kesler and kassian and you add from there

its not happening

Wouldn't mind something around Kesler but I'd have thought New Jersey was fine with Elias, Zajac and Henrique already.

Tiranis 12-13-2012 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by tc23 (Post 56511611)
Wouldn't mind something around Kesler but I'd have thought New Jersey was fine with Elias, Zajac and Henrique already.

I don't think they want to have Elias playing center since he sucks on the face-offs. Don't think he has ever been above 46%. They've pretty much been forced to keep him there but I'm pretty sure they would switch him to the wing if they could. Hell, they've tried to take him off center before but they just don't have anyone else to take his spot.

WinterEmpire 12-13-2012 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fork (Post 56510193)
it starts with kesler and kassian and you add from there

its not happening

Well I wouldn't do Kassian or Jensen but Kesler + Another Top Prospect + some more pieces on either side? I would be willing to do that.

y2kcanucks 12-13-2012 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by skywarp75 (Post 56509435)
i'd imagine they'd want kassian + 1st + tanev + a roster player

I would do this only if we had the cap space though. A deal around Luongo would work for me as well (and would be a lot simpler).

y2kcanucks 12-13-2012 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fork (Post 56510193)
it starts with kesler and kassian and you add from there

its not happening

Wouldn't move Kesler, but I'd be willing to move the young prospect pieces that NJ would want if they were rebuilding. Kassian and Jensen?

dave babych returns 12-13-2012 01:44 PM

I would think long and hard about Schneider for Kovalchuk straight up. Maybe let us give them another salary (Booth, Ballard, etc) for a pick as well.

Royal Canuck 12-13-2012 01:47 PM

Luongo, Booth, Schroeder and a 2nd.

Vankiller Whale 12-13-2012 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tiranis (Post 56511235)
Why in the world would they want Luongo if they're rebuilding and trading Kovalchuk?

Exactly. Schneider is the only piece we have that they might be interested in making a deal around.


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