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Bravid Nonahan 12-13-2012 10:17 AM

Bobby Orr - An Under-Under-Ager???
 
Was just looking at Bobby Orr's stats on hockeydb

He apparently played in the OHA in the 1962-63 season...which if I do my math correctly,would be today's equivalent of his Major Bantam year....:help::help:

And then the next year he put up 1.29 ppg as an underage dman.

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Rhiessan71 12-13-2012 01:51 PM

Yes, he started playing Junior at 14 years old vs 16-19 year olds.

Darth Yoda 12-13-2012 01:59 PM

Not very odd considering he was the second god of hockey. :yo:

Rhiessan71 12-13-2012 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth Yoda (Post 56511707)
Not very odd considering he was the second god of hockey. :yo:

Or the first to many ;)

Darth Yoda 12-13-2012 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhiessan71 (Post 56512015)
Or the first to many ;)

Yeah for me too, but i dared not to do it...:laugh:

Rhiessan71 12-13-2012 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth Yoda (Post 56512101)
Yeah for me too, but i dared not to do it...:laugh:

And we should include Howe in that for many as well.
Any all-time poll that I have ever seen has all 3 of them taking each home a not unsubstantial number of first place votes.

Hardyvan123 12-13-2012 10:57 PM

No doubt he would have been granted an exemption back then but the quality of the league wasn't that great either.

It's pretty hard to put into any context.

His age 15 season in 64 is what is really remarkable as the OHA had shrunk to 8 teams and Orr's 72 points only put him 7 behind the 10th place finisher. And that top 10 is a pretty good list too.

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/t...4&leaguenm=OHA

we all know what happened though.

Rhiessan71 12-13-2012 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Hardyvan123 (Post 56527245)
No doubt he would have been granted an exemption back then but the quality of the league wasn't that great either.

It's pretty hard to put into any context.

The context is he was a 14 year old playing against 16-19 year olds.
That's all you need.

MS 12-14-2012 01:22 AM

Wasn't totally out of the ordinary in the years before the CHL put age limits on players.

Both Glen Goodall and Dave Archibald played in the WHL at age 14 (same as Orr) in the mid-1980s.

Pyrophorus 12-14-2012 01:53 AM

Nice to see #2 in the rafters.

Killion 12-14-2012 02:50 AM

Youngest ever is John Tavares, playing Provincial Jr.A at 13, Major Jr.A like Orr &
others with a "special exemption" at 14, also playing in Oshawa for the Generals.

Darth Yoda 12-14-2012 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Rhiessan71 (Post 56515535)
And we should include Howe in that for many as well.
Any all-time poll that I have ever seen has all 3 of them taking each home a not unsubstantial number of first place votes.

Aha okey, i thought we were talking about Howe all long. In that case:

  • First came Howe, the God of Power
  • Then came Orr, the God of Speed
  • Third came Gretzky, the God of Vision
  • Lastly came Lemieux, the God of Humanitys Strength and Weakness.

They together form the wholy Quadrouple of Hockey. All must be present in any true hockeyfans prayers.

MS 12-15-2012 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Killion (Post 56530971)
Youngest ever is John Tavares, playing Provincial Jr.A at 13, Major Jr.A like Orr &
others with a "special exemption" at 14, also playing in Oshawa for the Generals.

Tavares was 15 when playing major junior, a year older than Orr (and Goodall).

Denis Potvin is another who played a few games at 14.

limite* 12-16-2012 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by The Amazing Ralph (Post 56506907)
Was just looking at Bobby Orr's stats on hockeydb

He apparently played in the OHA in the 1962-63 season...which if I do my math correctly,would be today's equivalent of his Major Bantam year....:help::help:

And then the next year he put up 1.29 ppg as an underage dman.

...

Buzz. Orr played forward in Junior until his last year when he split time between forward and defense. He only became a full time defenseman in the NHL. The Bruins decided that the best way to get him away from shadows was to have him on the back line.

pappyline 12-16-2012 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by limite (Post 56583341)
Buzz. Orr played forward in Junior until his last year when he split time between forward and defense. He only became a full time defenseman in the NHL. The Bruins decided that the best way to get him away from shadows was to have him on the back line.

I am about the same age as Orr and did watch him as a junior and my memory is that he played defense in junior.

Rhiessan71 12-16-2012 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by pappyline (Post 56584363)
I am about the same age as Orr and did watch him as a junior and my memory is that he played defense in junior.

Your memory is correct.
He was moved to defence while playing for the Parry Sound Shamrocks. BEFORE he ever played for the Generals.

Redscotter 12-29-2012 03:55 AM

Growing-up in Ontario, Bobby Orr was the definition of "Prodigy". The only one who came close was Gretzky, but he didn't do what Orr did in Junior as he did not play four years in Junior A Hockey.

The Oshawa Generals were created by the Boston Bruins so that Bobby Orr could play as close to Parry Sound as possible - not that Oshawa is close to Parry Sound, but it is a heck of a lot closer than the other Bruin Junior A affiliate of the time, the Niagara Falls Flyers ...


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