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caley 12-15-2012 04:20 PM

Calgary Likely to Sign Andres Ambuhl
 
Per a poorly-translated link from Elite Prospects

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This week is the decisive conversation with Andres Ambühl instead (29). Arno Del Curto hopes that Ambühl come to Davos, where the difference of an offer, the ZSC Lions is not too large. But he also expects that Ambühl next season are not playing in Davos in Zurich - because it Calgary's head coach Bob Hartley will give you a chance in the NHL.
Ambuhl, 29, is a good player in Switzerland, putting up decent points and winning various awards (was on the all-star team a couple years back, led the playoffs in points last year). He previously came to North America in 2009-10, when he played 64 games with Hartford of the AHL while under contract to the Rangers. Though he wasn't partciularly successful in Hartford, Flames coach Bob Hartley coached Ambuhl last year with ZSC of Switzerland, where they won a championship together, and would probably have a better idea of how to use him.

PS: Can you tell how bored I am without NHL hockey?!

medhatcanuck 12-15-2012 04:27 PM

Ambuhl is the next Kenny Boggins

ManByng 12-15-2012 04:31 PM

Ambwho?

Flames rebuilder 12-15-2012 04:32 PM

Don't know anything about the guy, but given his age, stats and size...why bother. Seems like a guy that's not worth the effort?

ManByng 12-15-2012 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Flames rebuilder (Post 56571287)
Don't know anything about the guy, but given his age, stats and size...why bother. Seems like a guy that's not worth the effort?

maybe he's similar to the Oilers Lennert Petrell?, who was signed in a similar fashion...older free agent. if he is then don't get too excited ;)

WTFMAN99 12-15-2012 05:49 PM

He was on the Swiss team at the Olympics I believe and is a good energy guy.

WhiteLight 12-15-2012 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by WTFMAN99 (Post 56572753)
He was on the Swiss team at the Olympics I believe and is a good energy guy.

He's 5'9 and would likely score less than 10 points in a full NHL season. He's old and has no potential to improve.

Calgary is insane.

smitty10 12-15-2012 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MandyAlwaysKnows (Post 56572793)
He's 5'9 and would likely score less than 10 points in a full NHL season. He's old and has no potential to improve.

Calgary is insane.

A small Rickard Wallin?

WhiteLight 12-15-2012 05:54 PM

For example, Roman Wick.

Better player for Swiss team, better offensively in both the Swiss and the AHL. Bigger, younger, better energy player.

Ottawa gave him one season in NA and gave up on him. Couldn't even cut it as a 4th liner. This is a terrible idea for Calgary.

WhiteLight 12-15-2012 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by smitty10 (Post 56572837)
A small Rickard Wallin?

that would be sad

TheHudlinator 12-15-2012 05:59 PM

Doesn't make much sense unless Hartley really thinks he can make him into an effective nhl player (I don't see it). This could also just be an attempt to make Cervenka feel more at ease in his first few weeks in Calgary and then they will send him to the minors for the rest of season.

WTFMAN99 12-15-2012 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MandyAlwaysKnows (Post 56572793)
He's 5'9 and would likely score less than 10 points in a full NHL season. He's old and has no potential to improve.

Calgary is insane.

Well we'll see how it pans out for them. I don't see how he fits on their roster....and it's Calgary....

WhiteLight 12-15-2012 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Superunknown94 (Post 56572975)
Based on this move?

based on this, Bouwmeester, Phaneuf, Jokinen, Tanguay, Cammalleri, Stempniak,... the list goes on.

They have no clue what they are doing.

Ashasx 12-15-2012 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MandyAlwaysKnows (Post 56573061)
based on this, Bouwmeester, Phaneuf, Jokinen, Tanguay, Cammalleri, Stempniak,... the list goes on.

They have no clue what they are doing.

Do you know what you're talking about?

Darryl Sutter brought in Bouwmeester.

Darryl Sutter traded Phaneuf away for nothing.

Darryl Sutter was fired for this incompetence.

Tanguay has been the 2nd leading point scorer for the Flames the last two seasons. He is signed to a very cap friendly $3.5M/year deal.

Cammalleri was acquired in a trade for Bourque. While Cammalleri is arguably ovepaid, Bourque is now nothing short of useless. The Flames make that trade, which also includes Karri Ramo, every day of the week.

Stempniak? Breaking the bank at $2M?

Why are you going insane over a low risk move? Why does signing this guy to a league minimum contract make the franchise worse? Why are the Flames bashed for going after players like Cervenka, but the Red Wings are praised beyond belief for signing Brunner?

If you have a bone to pick with the Flames, do it logically.

Weakside Lock 12-15-2012 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MandyAlwaysKnows (Post 56573061)
based on this, Bouwmeester, Phaneuf, Jokinen, Tanguay, Cammalleri, Stempniak,... the list goes on.

They have no clue what they are doing.

Now you're just generalizing. Wait and see how this signing pans out, if he even does sign, before assessing it.

Prairie Habs 12-15-2012 06:31 PM

Seems like a low risk move and if the coach already knows him I don't see why people are bashing this. The fact that MandyAlwaysKnows says its a bad move almost guarantees it will work out.

TheHudlinator 12-15-2012 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashasx (Post 56573335)
Do you know what you're talking about?

Darryl Sutter brought in Bouwmeester.

Darryl Sutter traded Phaneuf away for nothing.

Darryl Sutter was fired for this incompetence.

Tanguay has been the 2nd leading point scorer for the Flames the last two seasons. He is signed to a very cap friendly $3.5M/year deal.

Cammalleri was acquired in a trade for Bourque. While Cammalleri is arguably ovepaid, Bourque is now nothing short of useless. The Flames make that trade, which also includes Karri Ramo, every day of the week.

Stempniak? Breaking the bank at $2M?

Why are you going insane over a low risk move? Why does signing this guy to a league minimum contract make the franchise worse? Why are the Flames bashed for going after players like Cervenka, but the Red Wings are praised beyond belief for signing Brunner?

If you have a bone to pick with the Flames, do it logically.

Cooler last name AINEC :laugh:

WhiteLight 12-15-2012 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashasx (Post 56573335)
Do you know what you're talking about?

Darryl Sutter brought in Bouwmeester.

Darryl Sutter traded Phaneuf away for nothing.

Darryl Sutter was fired for this incompetence.

Tanguay has been the 2nd leading point scorer for the Flames the last two seasons. He is signed to a very cap friendly $3.5M/year deal.

Cammalleri was acquired in a trade for Bourque. While Cammalleri is arguably ovepaid, Bourque is now nothing short of useless. The Flames make that trade, which also includes Karri Ramo, every day of the week.

Stempniak? Breaking the bank at $2M?

Why are you going insane over a low risk move? Why does signing this guy to a league minimum contract make the franchise worse? Why are the Flames bashed for going after players like Cervenka, but the Red Wings are praised beyond belief for signing Brunner?

If you have a bone to pick with the Flames, do it logically.

OK good you admitted Sutter was incompetent.

Now on to Feaster and his cronies. Feaster has been with the Flames since July 2010.



-Drafting Mark Jankowski so high. He could have been selected later.

-Hiring Bob Hartley. Crazy and bad coach.

-Andres Ambuhl. Terrible player that will in no way help any NHL franchise. Waste of money, roster spot and contract spot.

-Roman Cervenka. Not a bad risk to take for a bad franchise in need of scoring, but paid WAY too much for him. Brunner is signed really cheap. Really, Feaster couldn't think of a better way to spend $3.7M?:shakehead.... I mean why not just sign Jokinen again? Ridiculous.

-Letting Tanguay, Cammalleri and Jokinen go, just to bring them right back into the fold. Make up your mind.

-Finally, and most importantly, spending loads of money on random free agents like Dennis Wideman and Jiri Hudler even though they are far from contenders, and what they need the most is a rebuild. For years, they have constantly had a very very high payroll. Yet when was the last time they made the playoffs? When was the last time they were higher than the 7th seed when they did? They keep signing and trading for random/old/former Flames players, just throwing a bunch of random players together and hoping it works. Just throwing **** at the wall and hoping it sticks. What is their plan? What is their identity? What are they doing?

Kezia 12-15-2012 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by MandyAlwaysKnows (Post 56573783)
What are they doing?

A whole lot of nothing.

Rolen 12-15-2012 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MandyAlwaysKnows (Post 56573783)
OK good you admitted Sutter was incompetent.

Now on to Feaster and his cronies. Feaster has been with the Flames since July 2010.



-Drafting Mark Jankowski so high. He could have been selected later.
That's crazy you know that
-Hiring Bob Hartley. Crazy and bad coach.
Stanley cup winning coach, took Atlanta to the playoffs and Colorado to the conference finals 4 times. Who else was there, Therrien?
-Andres Ambuhl. Terrible player that will in no way help any NHL franchise. Waste of money, roster spot and contract spot.
I'm sorry, has he been signed yet?
-Roman Cervenka. Not a bad risk to take for a bad franchise in need of scoring, but paid WAY too much for him. Brunner is signed really cheap. Really, Feaster couldn't think of a better way to spend $3.7M?:shakehead.... I mean why not just sign Jokinen again? Ridiculous.
His cap hit is 900k + 2.6mil in bonus. Get your facts straight.
-Letting Tanguay, Cammalleri and Jokinen go, just to bring them right back into the fold. Make up your mind.
The only one he brought back himself of that group is Cammalleri in a steal of a deal. And he only let Jokinen go.
-Finally, and most importantly, spending loads of money on random free agents like Dennis Wideman and Jiri Hudler even though they are far from contenders, and what they need the most is a rebuild. For years, they have constantly had a very very high payroll. Yet when was the last time they made the playoffs? When was the last time they were higher than the 7th seed when they did? They keep signing and traded for random/old/former Flames, just throwing a bunch of random players together and hoping it works. Just throwing **** at the wall and hoping it sticks. What is their plan? What is their identity? What are they doing?
Have you ever heard of the term "retooling"? I fail to see the reason why you have to draft #1 to create a great franchise, especially when you make great picks like Baertschi and Gaudreau in your first draft as a GM


Try again, and next time don't throw statements out of blatant ignorance.

Ashasx 12-15-2012 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MandyAlwaysKnows (Post 56573783)
OK good you admitted Sutter was incompetent.

Now on to Feaster and his cronies. Feaster has been with the Flames since July 2010.



-Drafting Mark Jankowski so high. He could have been selected later.

-Hiring Bob Hartley. Crazy and bad coach.

-Andres Ambuhl. Terrible player that will in no way help any NHL franchise. Waste of money, roster spot and contract spot.

-Roman Cervenka. Not a bad risk to take for a bad franchise in need of scoring, but paid WAY too much for him. Brunner is signed really cheap. Really, Feaster couldn't think of a better way to spend $3.7M?:shakehead.... I mean why not just sign Jokinen again? Ridiculous.

-Letting Tanguay, Cammalleri and Jokinen go, just to bring them right back into the fold. Make up your mind.

-Finally, and most importantly, spending loads of money on random free agents like Dennis Wideman and Jiri Hudler even though they are far from contenders, and what they need the most is a rebuild. For years, they have constantly had a very very high payroll. Yet when was the last time they made the playoffs? When was the last time they were higher than the 7th seed when they did? They keep signing and traded for random/old/former Flames, just throwing a bunch of random players together and hoping it works. Just throwing **** at the wall and hoping it sticks. What is their plan? What is their identity? What are they doing?

Could have drafted Jankowski? Even though numerous sources have come out and said Detroit and New Jersey would have taken him?

Hartley is a bad coach? Says who, you? I can tell you he's better than Brent Sutter. Hartley was able to get a bad Atlanta team into the playoffs.

Again, Feaster did not let Tanguay and Cammalleri walk. That was Darryl. Darryl also let Jokinen walk the first time and he brought him back in the off season. Feaster let Jokinen walk this off season because he was simply awful down the stretch. With the season lost, the Flames aren't bringing back a 34 year old Jokinen. And if they did, you would complain about the team re-signing old players.

Feaster signed a number of players in the offseason because that is his job. He's supposed to try and put a winning team on the ice. A monkey can build a perennial bottom feeder.

Mctopchowda 12-15-2012 06:46 PM

5 year 20 million NMC

Vatican Roulette 12-15-2012 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashasx (Post 56574121)
Could have drafted Jankowski? Even though numerous sources have come out and said Detroit and New Jersey would have taken him.

Not calling you a liar, but i never heard that. Where did you here that from?

King In The North 12-15-2012 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Vatican Roulette (Post 56574553)
Not calling you a liar, but i never heard that. Where did you here that from?

Don't want to look around, but there were sources coming out at the time and draft thread that he was going to be taken before the 2nd round (I've heard New Jersey and Phoenix).

The Brewmeister 12-15-2012 07:07 PM




nothing exciting.


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