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palindrom 12-17-2012 02:18 AM

Reid Boucher to Montreal!
 
Reid Boucher is a current line-mate of Galchenyuk with the Sarnia Sting in the OHL.

He was a 4th round, 99 overall draft pick by New Jersey in 2011.

he is currently 16th OHL scoring leader with 25-15 40 points in 34 games.

My first offer: Michael Bournival or Patrick Holland

Scottyk9 12-17-2012 03:04 AM

With NJ's thin forward depth in the prospect pool I highly doubt Lou is looking to move him unless for a over payment.

Watsatheo 12-17-2012 03:20 AM

If the Habs were going to trade for any of Galchenyuk's teammates, I'd try Connor Murphy before anyone. ;)

Even if Boucher was Habs property, it's not like they're going to be together on a line outside of this season. Next season Boucher will likely play in the AHL while Galchenyuk will likely play in the NHL. There's no point going after him just because he was Galchenyuk's linemate IMO.

palindrom 12-17-2012 05:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scottyk9 (Post 56614377)
With NJ's thin forward depth in the prospect pool I highly doubt Lou is looking to move him unless for a over payment.

i am offering you forward prospect!

hlaverty06 12-17-2012 05:59 AM

I wouldn't really mind Holland, his defensive game would fit nicely into our system

DKQ 12-17-2012 06:20 AM

I would very much mind Holland, as I don't see him ever being an NHL presence. I like Bournival, there would have to be some addition though. I wouldn't mind Bournival+ the latest of Montreal's 3 seconds in 2013 for Boucher+4th rounder or something equivalent. If this seems steep it's only because Boucher is very valuable to the Devils

Classic Devil 12-17-2012 07:56 AM

How about we trade Galchenyuk to New Jersey instead!

;)

Jason MacIsaac 12-17-2012 08:02 AM

I would do a Bournival/Boucher trade. Bournival is having a pretty good rookie year in Hamilton and also has tremendous defensive upside as a winger.

Blind Gardien 12-17-2012 09:50 AM

I like Holland and Bournival as smart, nicely rounded prospects for the Habs. I wouldn't trade either one of them for Boucher. Trying to reunite him with Galchenyuk isn't worth the effort. Nice player, some good moves and hustle and all that, but if you like a prospect, and the team that currently owns his rights likes the prospect, you'll just have to overpay, and why do that.

Devils Trap 12-17-2012 01:05 PM

Yeaaa Not gonna happen

hlaverty06 12-17-2012 01:09 PM

Well I like holland I think Bouchers scoring touch is something devils need a lot more of now that I think about it

Shawnathon 12-17-2012 01:35 PM

Patrick Holland is really promising and one of the reasons I liked the Cammy trade. I would never trade him for a prospect like Boucher.

poetryinmotion 12-17-2012 01:40 PM

Boucher would have 35 goals right now if he converted on at least half the flubbed opportunities provided by Galchenyuk and Sarault. He's a very nice prospect for sure but prone to brainfarts. His shot is definitely his main asset. Personally, I like Holland and Bournival more.

Psycho Papa Joe 12-17-2012 01:47 PM

Pony riders are fools gold. We already have ours in Bozon. I'm very leery of guys drafted in the mid rounds who put up big numbers in junior but are the lowest scoring guys on their line.

Jason MacIsaac 12-17-2012 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psycho Papa Joe (Post 56622621)
Pony riders are fools gold. We already have ours in Bozon. I'm very leery of guys drafted in the mid rounds who put up big numbers in junior but are the lowest scoring guys on their line.

Boucher's shot translates to any level. He probably has the best snap/wrist shot in all the CHL. Not saying he is better than the other two just that he isn't your typical 3rd wheel.

Mad Habber 12-17-2012 03:44 PM

I don't see Boucher as a 1st liner in the NHL. Not for a while anyways. Galchenyuk's linemates of the future look to be Patches and Colberg. That looks like a good line. Maybe someone else comes along. So I don't see any reason to trade for Boucher. Especially, when you make a trade asking for a specific guy, their value increases instantly. In my eyes, both Bournival and Holland have equal to greater value. But if you call up NJ asking for Boucher, it'll cost one of them plus. It doesn't make sense to go looking for this type of player. They are the type that are either the throw-ins or you get him if NJ comes calling and say pick one or pick two of this list.

AfroThunder396 12-17-2012 04:39 PM

Boucher is still raw as hell and your textbook boom/bust prospect. That being said, he's one of two forward prospects in our system with top-6 potential (Matteau the other). He seems to be developing nicely so far, if we let him have his time he could be a real steal for us.

I'm not particularly attached to him, but New Jersey doesn't really have any reason to trade him unless we're getting a safer prospect with top-6 upside. It just doesn't make sense for New Jersey to trade away the one bright light in their weakest organizational area.

palindrom 12-17-2012 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Habber (Post 56625299)
I don't see Boucher as a 1st liner in the NHL. Not for a while anyways. Galchenyuk's linemates of the future look to be Patches and Colberg. That looks like a good line. Maybe someone else comes along. So I don't see any reason to trade for Boucher. Especially, when you make a trade asking for a specific guy, their value increases instantly. In my eyes, both Bournival and Holland have equal to greater value. But if you call up NJ asking for Boucher, it'll cost one of them plus. It doesn't make sense to go looking for this type of player. They are the type that are either the throw-ins or you get him if NJ comes calling and say pick one or pick two of this list.

So as a gm the right strategy is to most of the time wait for other GM to call you?

in fact when you call for his specific player, his value doesnt increase instantly, what happen is the other teams will tell you the asking price to move him, not the bidding price around the league for him. This is the same asking price the player had yesterday or the month before, your call didn't change it.

if you have a car and you are not willing to sell him, but X $$ would convince you to sell it. If someone call you and inquire about your car, does you want more than X now?

This is not a fixed price market, every player have 2 differents value.

The reason i think NJ would accept my offer is : their left wing and center prospect pool arent deep and this trade would help balance it.

i also believe Holland and Bournival are slightly superior prospect. This is already a little overpayment. I would not throw in a 3th round! But maybe i could add a 6th, 7th round.

We are not talking about a blue chip prospect in Reid Boucher!

Takashi 12-17-2012 06:33 PM

Bournival + Holland >> Boucher.

Vincent01 12-17-2012 06:40 PM

Aaaah junior chemistry, we meet again... :shakehead

They wouldn't tear the NHL apart just like they're doing in the OHL if they were reunited. Seriously I'd prefer seeing Galchenyuk playing with better teamates than Boucher at the NHL level.

palindrom 12-17-2012 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Takashi (Post 56629451)
Bournival + Holland >> Boucher.

i mean one of them, not both of them.

palindrom 12-17-2012 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vincent01 (Post 56629599)
Aaaah junior chemistry, we meet again... :shakehead

They wouldn't tear the NHL apart just like they're doing in the OHL if they were reunited. Seriously I'd prefer seeing Galchenyuk playing with better teamates than Boucher at the NHL level.

But you remember Lecavalier and Brad Richards in the junior?

Crimson Skorpion 12-17-2012 07:30 PM

Boucher is very one dimensional. His defensive play and foot speed are lacking. He has a great shot, but he's still a while away from the NHL. A lot of improvement to be made.

Analyzer 12-17-2012 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimsonSkorpion (Post 56630791)
Boucher is very one dimensional. His defensive play and foot speed are lacking. He has a great shot, but he's still a while away from the NHL. A lot of improvement to be made.

He only has to be fast enough to get to the spot where Galchenyuk is going to pass to.

FlyingKostitsyn 12-17-2012 07:35 PM

I don't see the point. No knock on Boucher but I doubt he'll be a first line NHLer. Galchenyuk will need to be on a line with first line NHLers.

Beside Galchenyuk has proven to be extremely versatile and can adapt easily, I'm sure he'll find chemistry with whoever we have him play with. How often do junior linemates end up playing together at the NHL level anyways?


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