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Leaf Rocket 12-19-2012 08:40 PM

12'/13' Draft Thread: Offensive flash is a beauty but defensive presence rules.
 
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Sundinisagod 12-19-2012 08:55 PM

Which NHL players has the manchild been compared to?

Leaf Rocket 12-19-2012 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Sundinisagod (Post 56683195)
Which NHL players has the manchild been compared to?

Many say sundin actually. If you are talking about barkov.

leugangen 12-19-2012 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Leaf Rocket (Post 56684565)
Many say sundin actually. If you are talking about barkov.

Yep, and imagine a Sundin-Kessel combo :naughty:

DD03 12-20-2012 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Leaf Rocket (Post 56684565)
Many say sundin actually. If you are talking about barkov.

Can only hope he turns into that kind of an impact player. I doubt he'll be as clutch as Mats though.

Sundinisagod 12-20-2012 06:00 AM

In that case I am sold on Barkov :)

Leaf Rocket 12-20-2012 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by leugangen (Post 56686609)
Yep, and imagine a Sundin-Kessel combo :naughty:

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Originally Posted by DirtyDion03 (Post 56686767)
Can only hope he turns into that kind of an impact player. I doubt he'll be as clutch as Mats though.

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Originally Posted by Sundinisagod (Post 56689285)
In that case I am sold on Barkov :)

From what I've seen the games I stayed up to watch, he's actually very solid. Yea he won't be captain clutch unless he proves otherwise, but he is the quiet guy who will get the job done and to be honest those are my favourites.

Sundinisagod 12-20-2012 08:50 AM

The clutch factor comes with experience, even the great Sundin wasn't known as Captain Clutch til around his late 20s (I think). After getting used to Sundin over the years, I really want a hulking #1 center to replace him.

Leaf Rocket 12-20-2012 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Sundinisagod (Post 56690247)
The clutch factor comes with experience, even the great Sundin wasn't known as Captain Clutch til around his late 20s (I think). After getting used to Sundin over the years, I really want a hulking #1 center to replace him.

Only knock on him so far as I've seen is his skating however he's gotten better from last year from what i've heard.

Warden of the North 12-20-2012 09:42 AM

We need a 1c sooooooo bad. A Sundin clone would be incredible

Sundinisagod 12-20-2012 10:26 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but we haven't drafted a #1 center since 1970.

showtime8 12-20-2012 10:37 AM

Its too bad that Barkov is sitting out today's game for the Fins against Canada.

I wanted to see what all the hype was about.

SarcazemKadri 12-20-2012 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyDion03 (Post 56686767)
Can only hope he turns into that kind of an impact player. I doubt he'll be as clutch as Mats though.

How can you possibly say he isn't clutch? thus far he hasn't had a chance to prove otherwise. Ridiculous comment

DD03 12-20-2012 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by SarcazemKadri (Post 56692853)
How can you possibly say he isn't clutch? thus far he hasn't had a chance to prove otherwise. Ridiculous comment

I never said he wasn't clutch. I said he'd have a hard time matching Mats. That's all bro.

Rare Jewel 12-20-2012 12:15 PM

Not that I think Barkov won't be a good player, But I think were going on about the wrong Scandinavian center around here.

Just my thoughts.

SarcazemKadri 12-20-2012 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyDion03 (Post 56693051)
I never said he wasn't clutch. I said he'd have a hard time matching Mats. That's all bro.

Fair enough. I think he has the potential to be. All great players have that potential to be honest

The Magic Man 12-20-2012 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Rare Jewel (Post 56695201)
Not that I think Barkov won't be a good player, But I think were going on about the wrong Scandinavian center around here.

Just my thoughts.

I assume your talking about Elias Lindholm. I'd love to see more of him, myself.

The Magic Man 12-20-2012 01:17 PM

On paper, N. Backstrom seems like the perfect comparable to Lindholm. Same team. Similar stats. Late birthday, so one of the older players in their draft.

I believe Backstrom was smaller when drafted as well, no?

Leaf Rocket 12-20-2012 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Rare Jewel (Post 56695201)
Not that I think Barkov won't be a good player, But I think were going on about the wrong Scandinavian center around here.

Just my thoughts.

Well it really depends tbh. I really like lindholm and was just in awe at some of his plays but i think the man child and with his quiet and effective game would be a much needed fresh air in the center spot since sundin days. I also think he has a lot more to offer if he can touch that potential, he seems like a guy who is overflowing with hockey sense and intelligence too much infact that if he puts it together he can be one of the best player if not the best player in this draft. Sort of Kopitar-esque but better?

Leaf Rocket 12-20-2012 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by The Naz (Post 56696871)
On paper, N. Backstrom seems like the perfect comparable to Lindholm. Same team. Similar stats. Late birthday, so one of the older players in their draft.

I believe Backstrom was smaller when drafted as well, no?

More flash and more panache to him than backstrom but yea that's the comparison if not foppa-esque.

Bernier the Boats 12-20-2012 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SarcazemKadri (Post 56692853)
How can you possibly say he isn't clutch? thus far he hasn't had a chance to prove otherwise. Ridiculous comment

Sundin is essentially the most clutch player in Leaf history (maybe NHL history, see OT winners). Its a huge part of who Mats is and what kind of player he is. That's why Sundin is such an unfair comparison for draft eligible prospects. Like the Kopitar one for Barkov.

gabeliscious 12-20-2012 04:29 PM

i think i would be happy with any of the top centers in the draft. **** we need one so badly.

Razor 12-20-2012 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by gabeliscious (Post 56702011)
i think i would be happy with any of the top centers in the draft. **** we need one so badly.

Must. Be. A. Center.

BigWilly 12-20-2012 10:06 PM

I'd be quite content picking anywhere in the top 10 with Nurse, Shinkaruk, Nichushkin, Jones or Pulock available as well; though a center would be preferred.

Rare Jewel 12-20-2012 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Razor (Post 56706633)
Must. Be. A. Center.

I hate the idea of picking for position and if we did some how end up with the 2nd pick and Jones for example is there you take him. Also we don't know what could happen via trade or free agency.

But..

Looking around at our division rivals and seeing what we could be up against when you look down the middle we could be up against it.


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